Harry,

Your logic is, as ever, faultless. It's clear to every moron that it's Bush
who is at fault for incorrect information being realeased. Furthermore, who
but the most moronic could have any doubt that his actions are the driving
force behind international terrorism in Spain, Africa, Asia and the Middle
East. Who else could we blame for this mess? Certainly Al Queda has had no
part in the slaughter?

Gee, I don't know, but it seems to me the internet is one of the primary
tools used by terror groups. Shouldn't the guy who invented the internet
share some of the blame? I refer, of course, to your very good pal Al
Gored. ;=)

Butch


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Correcting data, US says terrorism incidents increased in '03

By Barry Schweid, Associated Press | June 11, 2004

WASHINGTON -- The State Department acknowledged yesterday it was wrong
to report that terrorism declined worldwide last year, a finding that
was used to boost one of President Bush's top foreign policy claims,
success in countering terror.

Instead, both the number of incidents and the toll in victims increased
sharply, the department said. Statements by senior administration
officials asserting success were based "on the facts as we had them at
the time; the facts that we had were wrong," department spokesman
Richard Boucher said.

The report, issued in April, said attacks had declined last year to 190,
the lowest level in 34 years, and dropped 45 percent since 2001, Bush's
first year as president. The State Department is now working to
determine the correct figures.

Among the mistakes, Boucher said, was that only part of 2003 was taken
into account.

Secretary of State Colin L. Powell said yesterday the errors were partly
the result of new data-collection procedures. "I can assure you it had
nothing to do with putting out anything but the most honest, accurate
information we can," he said.

"Errors crept in that frankly we did not catch here," Powell said of the
report, which showed a falloff in the number of attacks worldwide in
2003 and the virtual disappearance of incidents in which no one died.

Representative Henry Waxman, Democrat of California, said this week the
administration had refused to address his contention that the findings
were manipulated for political purposes. Waxman had written Powell
asking for an explanation.

Boucher said a reply to Waxman was in preparation. "We wanted to make
sure that we give the congressman the best and most accurate picture of
what we know and what's going on as we can," he said.

He said the errors began to become apparent in early May. "We got phone
calls from people who were going through our report and who said to
themselves, as we should have said to ourselves: 'This doesn't feel
right,' " he said.

When the annual report was issued April 29, senior administration
officials used it as evidence the war was being won under Bush.



-----------------------------------------------------------

Bush: the new definition of inept and incompetent

Butch Davis wrote:
Harry,

Your logic is, as ever, faultless. It's clear to every moron that it's Bush
who is at fault for incorrect information being realeased.


The Bush misAdministration has been feeding us misinformation from the
idiot's first day in office, especially on its fraudulent War on Terrorism.


Furthermore, who
but the most moronic could have any doubt that his actions are the driving
force behind international terrorism in Spain, Africa, Asia and the Middle
East. Who else could we blame for this mess? Certainly Al Queda has had no
part in the slaughter?

Ahhhh. You think there is no connection between Bush's attacks on
Afghanistan and invasion of Iraq and the escalation of terrorist
activities?




Gee, I don't know, but it seems to me the internet is one of the primary
tools used by terror groups. Shouldn't the guy who invented the internet
share some of the blame? I refer, of course, to your very good pal Al
Gored. ;=)

Butch


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Correcting data, US says terrorism incidents increased in '03

By Barry Schweid, Associated Press | June 11, 2004

WASHINGTON -- The State Department acknowledged yesterday it was wrong
to report that terrorism declined worldwide last year, a finding that
was used to boost one of President Bush's top foreign policy claims,
success in countering terror.

Instead, both the number of incidents and the toll in victims increased
sharply, the department said. Statements by senior administration
officials asserting success were based "on the facts as we had them at
the time; the facts that we had were wrong," department spokesman
Richard Boucher said.

The report, issued in April, said attacks had declined last year to 190,
the lowest level in 34 years, and dropped 45 percent since 2001, Bush's
first year as president. The State Department is now working to
determine the correct figures.

Among the mistakes, Boucher said, was that only part of 2003 was taken
into account.

Secretary of State Colin L. Powell said yesterday the errors were partly
the result of new data-collection procedures. "I can assure you it had
nothing to do with putting out anything but the most honest, accurate
information we can," he said.

"Errors crept in that frankly we did not catch here," Powell said of the
report, which showed a falloff in the number of attacks worldwide in
2003 and the virtual disappearance of incidents in which no one died.

Representative Henry Waxman, Democrat of California, said this week the
administration had refused to address his contention that the findings
were manipulated for political purposes. Waxman had written Powell
asking for an explanation.

Boucher said a reply to Waxman was in preparation. "We wanted to make
sure that we give the congressman the best and most accurate picture of
what we know and what's going on as we can," he said.

He said the errors began to become apparent in early May. "We got phone
calls from people who were going through our report and who said to
themselves, as we should have said to ourselves: 'This doesn't feel
right,' " he said.

When the annual report was issued April 29, senior administration
officials used it as evidence the war was being won under Bush.



-----------------------------------------------------------

Bush: the new definition of inept and incompetent

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Butch Davis wrote:
Harry,

Your logic is, as ever, faultless. It's clear to every moron that it's
Bush
who is at fault for incorrect information being realeased.


The Bush misAdministration has been feeding us misinformation from the
idiot's first day in office, especially on its fraudulent War on
Terrorism.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtri...reaking_1.html

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Butch Davis wrote:
Harry,

Your logic is, as ever, faultless. It's clear to every moron that
it's
Bush
who is at fault for incorrect information being realeased.


The Bush misAdministration has been feeding us misinformation from the
idiot's first day in office, especially on its fraudulent War on
Terrorism.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtri...reaking_1.html



Repeat after me:

1) I'm Bert, and I don't understand why my president intentionally gave
Saddam so much time to ship his weapons elsewhere.

2) I'm Bert, and I have no idea why I posted this in response to an article
about the measurement of terrorist activities.

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 01:36:24 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Butch Davis wrote:
Harry,

Your logic is, as ever, faultless. It's clear to every moron that
it's
Bush
who is at fault for incorrect information being realeased.


The Bush misAdministration has been feeding us misinformation from the
idiot's first day in office, especially on its fraudulent War on
Terrorism.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtri...reaking_1.html



Repeat after me:

1) I'm Bert, and I don't understand why my president intentionally gave
Saddam so much time to ship his weapons elsewhere.

2) I'm Bert, and I have no idea why I posted this in response to an article
about the measurement of terrorist activities.


Your President wasted too much time seeking the approval of the UN and Congress
before he took action. That was a boo-boo.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 01:36:24 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Butch Davis wrote:
Harry,

Your logic is, as ever, faultless. It's clear to every moron that
it's
Bush
who is at fault for incorrect information being realeased.


The Bush misAdministration has been feeding us misinformation from
the
idiot's first day in office, especially on its fraudulent War on
Terrorism.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtri...reaking_1.html



Repeat after me:

1) I'm Bert, and I don't understand why my president intentionally gave
Saddam so much time to ship his weapons elsewhere.

2) I'm Bert, and I have no idea why I posted this in response to an
article
about the measurement of terrorist activities.


Your President wasted too much time seeking the approval of the UN and
Congress
before he took action. That was a boo-boo.

John H

U.N.: Dead issue at this point.

Congress: That's the law. We know he'd like to function outside of it, but
as things stand, he has to follow protocol.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Butch Davis wrote:
Harry,

Your logic is, as ever, faultless. It's clear to every moron that it's
Bush
who is at fault for incorrect information being realeased.


The Bush misAdministration has been feeding us misinformation from the
idiot's first day in office, especially on its fraudulent War on
Terrorism.


Furthermore, who
but the most moronic could have any doubt that his actions are the
driving
force behind international terrorism in Spain, Africa, Asia and the
Middle
East. Who else could we blame for this mess? Certainly Al Queda has
had no
part in the slaughter?

Ahhhh. You think there is no connection between Bush's attacks on
Afghanistan and invasion of Iraq and the escalation of terrorist
activities?



Funny that you mention Afghanistan in the same breath as Iraq. So you think
we shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan because it has caused an "escalation
of terrorist activities"?

NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Butch Davis wrote:

Harry,

Your logic is, as ever, faultless. It's clear to every moron that it's

Bush

who is at fault for incorrect information being realeased.


The Bush misAdministration has been feeding us misinformation from the
idiot's first day in office, especially on its fraudulent War on

Terrorism.


Furthermore, who

but the most moronic could have any doubt that his actions are the

driving

force behind international terrorism in Spain, Africa, Asia and the

Middle

East. Who else could we blame for this mess? Certainly Al Queda has

had no

part in the slaughter?

Ahhhh. You think there is no connection between Bush's attacks on
Afghanistan and invasion of Iraq and the escalation of terrorist
activities?




Funny that you mention Afghanistan in the same breath as Iraq. So you think
we shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan because it has caused an "escalation
of terrorist activities"?




For the first few days after 9-11, my government had me convinced the
country of Afghanistan was the perpetrator of that particular horror.
But then we started receiving some facts and it became apparent that
Afghanistan was not to blame.

I'm not sure why we went into Afghanistan, other than to give the Bush
misAdministration a chance to show Americans it was doing "something
about terrorism." Oh...and we picked up a few of Osama's boys and
toppled an incompetent, repressive government that didn't like us so we
could replace it with an incompetent, repressive government that doesn't
like us a little less.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Butch Davis wrote:

Harry,

Your logic is, as ever, faultless. It's clear to every moron that it's

Bush

who is at fault for incorrect information being realeased.


The Bush misAdministration has been feeding us misinformation from the
idiot's first day in office, especially on its fraudulent War on

Terrorism.


Furthermore, who

but the most moronic could have any doubt that his actions are the

driving

force behind international terrorism in Spain, Africa, Asia and the

Middle

East. Who else could we blame for this mess? Certainly Al Queda has

had no

part in the slaughter?

Ahhhh. You think there is no connection between Bush's attacks on
Afghanistan and invasion of Iraq and the escalation of terrorist
activities?




Funny that you mention Afghanistan in the same breath as Iraq. So you
think
we shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan because it has caused an
"escalation
of terrorist activities"?




For the first few days after 9-11, my government had me convinced the
country of Afghanistan was the perpetrator of that particular horror.

You mean you got bad intel?


But then we started receiving some facts and it became apparent that
Afghanistan was not to blame.

No? bin Laden claimed responsibility for the attack. He was living in
Afghanistan under the protection of Mullah Omar's Taliban. In November
2001, Omar had this to say:

The BBC's Pashto service has interviewed Taleban leader Mullah Mohammad
Omar.
The BBC asked the questions through a Taleban intermediary over satellite
phone. He passed them on to the Taleban leader through a hand-held radio and
then attached the phone's receiver to the radio for Mullah Omar's answers.

The following is the transcript of the interview

What do you think of the current situation in Afghanistan?

You (the BBC) and American puppet radios have created concern. But the
current situation in Afghanistan is related to a bigger cause - that is the
destruction of America.

And on the other hand, the screening of Taleban [for those who are or are
not loyal] is also in process. We will see these things happen within a
short while.

What do you mean by the destruction of America? Do you have a concrete plan
to implement this?

The plan is going ahead and, God willing, it is being implemented.

But it is a huge task, which is beyond the will and comprehension of human
beings.

If God's help is with us, this will happen within a short period of time;
keep in mind this prediction.

Osama Bin Laden has reportedly threatened that he would use nuclear,
chemical or biological weapons against America. Is your threat related to
his?


This is not a matter of weapons. We are hopeful for God's help. The real
matter is the extinction of America. And, God willing, it [America] will
fall to the ground.



I'm not sure why we went into Afghanistan

Why? Because Omar was the leader of the country, and he was openly
admitting to working with bin Laden in bin Laden's attempt to bring about
the "extinction of America".

Have you gone off your rocker, Harry?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Butch Davis wrote:

Harry,

Your logic is, as ever, faultless. It's clear to every moron that it's

Bush

who is at fault for incorrect information being realeased.


The Bush misAdministration has been feeding us misinformation from the
idiot's first day in office, especially on its fraudulent War on

Terrorism.


Furthermore, who

but the most moronic could have any doubt that his actions are the

driving

force behind international terrorism in Spain, Africa, Asia and the

Middle

East. Who else could we blame for this mess? Certainly Al Queda has

had no

part in the slaughter?

Ahhhh. You think there is no connection between Bush's attacks on
Afghanistan and invasion of Iraq and the escalation of terrorist
activities?




Funny that you mention Afghanistan in the same breath as Iraq. So you
think
we shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan because it has caused an
"escalation
of terrorist activities"?




For the first few days after 9-11, my government had me convinced the
country of Afghanistan was the perpetrator of that particular horror.
But then we started receiving some facts and it became apparent that
Afghanistan was not to blame.

I'm not sure why we went into Afghanistan, other than to give the Bush
misAdministration a chance to show Americans it was doing "something
about terrorism." Oh...and we picked up a few of Osama's boys and
toppled an incompetent, repressive government that didn't like us so we
could replace it with an incompetent, repressive government that doesn't
like us a little less.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1657368.stm