"John H" wrote in message
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:56:32 -0400, Harry Krause

wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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Bush knew he was not going to wait for U.N. blessings. Rather than
go
through the motions, he should've jumped, rather than spend 8
months

talking

like a cowboy. But, none of this really matters. It was actually

better

for

Bush's handlers if things got worse. Surely you understand why.


Un****ingbelievable.


Doug is quite the conpiracist, Joe. I guess he was getting jealous
of
basskisser holding the "stupidest-poster-on-rec.boats" title all to

himself.



I'm not suggesting a conspiracy, child.

Back to the facts I stated above: We all (including you) know that
the
situation in Iraq BEFORE the war wasn't nearly as hideous as your
leader
suggested. Virtually all his reasons have melted away. Of course, he
knew
this beforehand, so it made sense to rattle his sabre for as long as
possible in order to give various factions time to get warmed up.

This is what happens when a president formulates foreign policy (and
perhaps
his entire world view) around the movie "Hang 'em High".




That simple-minded view of the world is shared by most of the righties
here, in case you haven't noticed. The sort of terrorism we're facing
today is the result of a myriad of complexities. This is not the war of
our fathers and grandfathers, where we were facing the evil Germans and
Japanese, and we knew where they were and most everyone wore some sort
of uniform. Today's terrorism is the result of right-wing religious
hatred and simple-mindedness, poverty, jealousy, ignorance,
desperation,
starvation, decades of indignities (real and perceived) and much
more. Unfortunately, the simple-minded twits running the US government
these days only recognize black or white and, in reality, they don't
perceive those "colors" too well, either.

Hopefully, this fall we'll have a regime change in Washington, D.C.

Bull hockey! These terrorists are not starving, poverty ridden,
ignorant,
desperate, etc. etc. That is garbage. Quit trying to make terrorism
sound as
though it's our fault. What tripe.

It was the appeasement strategy of the left that has given the terrorists
so much strength, just like it did with Germany, the Soviet Union, North
Vietnam, North Korea, etc etc etc


John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:56:32 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


Doug Kanter wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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Bush knew he was not going to wait for U.N. blessings. Rather than go
through the motions, he should've jumped, rather than spend 8 months

talking


like a cowboy. But, none of this really matters. It was actually

better


for


Bush's handlers if things got worse. Surely you understand why.


Un****ingbelievable.


Doug is quite the conpiracist, Joe. I guess he was getting jealous of
basskisser holding the "stupidest-poster-on-rec.boats" title all to

himself.


I'm not suggesting a conspiracy, child.

Back to the facts I stated above: We all (including you) know that the
situation in Iraq BEFORE the war wasn't nearly as hideous as your leader
suggested. Virtually all his reasons have melted away. Of course, he knew
this beforehand, so it made sense to rattle his sabre for as long as
possible in order to give various factions time to get warmed up.

This is what happens when a president formulates foreign policy (and perhaps
his entire world view) around the movie "Hang 'em High".




That simple-minded view of the world is shared by most of the righties
here, in case you haven't noticed. The sort of terrorism we're facing
today is the result of a myriad of complexities. This is not the war of
our fathers and grandfathers, where we were facing the evil Germans and
Japanese, and we knew where they were and most everyone wore some sort
of uniform. Today's terrorism is the result of right-wing religious
hatred and simple-mindedness, poverty, jealousy, ignorance, desperation,
starvation, decades of indignities (real and perceived) and much
more. Unfortunately, the simple-minded twits running the US government
these days only recognize black or white and, in reality, they don't
perceive those "colors" too well, either.

Hopefully, this fall we'll have a regime change in Washington, D.C.


Bull hockey! These terrorists are not starving, poverty ridden, ignorant,
desperate, etc. etc. That is garbage. Quit trying to make terrorism sound as
though it's our fault. What tripe.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


Some of "these" terrorists certainly are the dispossessed, and many of
those who harbor them certainly are. The more advantaged terrorists use
the less advantaged ones to further the perceived goals of all of them.
And yes, we do share some of the blame for the current round of
anti-American terrorism, and, since the foolhardy implementation of "the
Bush doctrine" of misdirected retaliation, we are indeed to blame for
all the increase in anti-Americanism for the last year.

Your guy in the White House, the Dubya, ****ed things up royally for us
all over the world because of his stupidity, intellectual laziness,
dependence on agendized neocons and pigheadedness.

Bush is a miserable failure. It's time for him to go.

"Harry Krause" wrote:

Bush is a miserable failure. It's time for him to go.

You're a miserable failure, Krause. Despite your constant googling and OT
hysterics, you've failed to change one single mind. It's time for you to
go.

Jack

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:39:09 -0400, P. Fritz wrote:


It was the appeasement strategy of the left that has given the
terrorists
so much strength, just like it did with Germany, the Soviet Union, North
Vietnam, North Korea, etc etc etc

Cite please? The most famous example of an appeasement strategy was by
Neville Chamberlain, a Conservative. I can't recall any appeasement
strategy with North Vietnam, or North Korea. The Soviet Union? It had an
eighty year history. Perhaps you could be more specific.

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:30:44 -0400, thunder wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:39:09 -0400, P. Fritz wrote:


It was the appeasement strategy of the left that has given the
terrorists
so much strength, just like it did with Germany, the Soviet Union, North
Vietnam, North Korea, etc etc etc

Cite please? The most famous example of an appeasement strategy was by
Neville Chamberlain, a Conservative. I can't recall any appeasement
strategy with North Vietnam, or North Korea. The Soviet Union? It had an
eighty year history. Perhaps you could be more specific.

Go back up this thread about four or five levels and read Harry's post. There's
a perfect example of an appeasement strategy!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:20:15 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:56:32 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:




That simple-minded view of the world is shared by most of the righties
here, in case you haven't noticed. The sort of terrorism we're facing
today is the result of a myriad of complexities. This is not the war of
our fathers and grandfathers, where we were facing the evil Germans and
Japanese, and we knew where they were and most everyone wore some sort
of uniform. Today's terrorism is the result of right-wing religious
hatred and simple-mindedness, poverty, jealousy, ignorance, desperation,
starvation, decades of indignities (real and perceived) and much
more. Unfortunately, the simple-minded twits running the US government
these days only recognize black or white and, in reality, they don't
perceive those "colors" too well, either.

Hopefully, this fall we'll have a regime change in Washington, D.C.


Bull hockey! These terrorists are not starving, poverty ridden, ignorant,
desperate, etc. etc. That is garbage. Quit trying to make terrorism sound as
though it's our fault. What tripe.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


Some of "these" terrorists certainly are the dispossessed, and many of
those who harbor them certainly are. The more advantaged terrorists use
the less advantaged ones to further the perceived goals of all of them.
And yes, we do share some of the blame for the current round of
anti-American terrorism, and, since the foolhardy implementation of "the
Bush doctrine" of misdirected retaliation, we are indeed to blame for
all the increase in anti-Americanism for the last year.

Your guy in the White House, the Dubya, ****ed things up royally for us
all over the world because of his stupidity, intellectual laziness,
dependence on agendized neocons and pigheadedness.

Bush is a miserable failure. It's time for him to go.

Well, what is the goal of "The more advantaged terrorists..?." Are they trying
to better the lot of the poor and unfed of the world? Is blowing away Americans
the way to do that? Terrorism started well before Bush took office, Harry. There
were even a few incidents under Clinton. So it can't all be the fault of Bush.

You are spewing tripe and you know it. Call Bush anything you want, but don't
blame terrorism on poverty. That is bull****!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H wrote:



You are spewing tripe and you know it. Call Bush anything you want, but don't
blame terrorism on poverty. That is bull****!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Poverty is indeed one of the well-documented reasons for terrorism and
even war. Perhaps some non-military oriented history classes at NOVA
would benefit you.

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:45:03 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:



You are spewing tripe and you know it. Call Bush anything you want, but don't
blame terrorism on poverty. That is bull****!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Poverty is indeed one of the well-documented reasons for terrorism and
even war. Perhaps some non-military oriented history classes at NOVA
would benefit you.

Show me. I believe that terrorists may *say* that their motive is to relieve
poverty, but that's more pferdeapfel. What country's poor are the terrorists
trying to help? The idea that terrorists are trying to help the poor and
destitute is more politically correct (if you're a leftist) psychobabble. Who
are the terrorist leaders? They're educated, wealthy, vain individuals with a
high capacity for hate.

Stick to the discussion, Harry. Personal attacks, I know, are your forte, but
try to stay on track and quell your inner desires.



John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:45:03 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


John H wrote:



You are spewing tripe and you know it. Call Bush anything you want, but don't
blame terrorism on poverty. That is bull****!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Poverty is indeed one of the well-documented reasons for terrorism and
even war. Perhaps some non-military oriented history classes at NOVA
would benefit you.


Show me. I believe that terrorists may *say* that their motive is to relieve
poverty, but that's more pferdeapfel. What country's poor are the terrorists
trying to help?

I didn't state the terrorists were trying to help the poor. Try reading
for content.

Here's what I posted: "The more advantaged terrorists use the less
advantaged ones to further the perceived goals of all of them."



Stick to the discussion, Harry. Personal attacks, I know, are your forte, but
try to stay on track and quell your inner desires.


When you enroll in a history class at NOVA, enroll in a reading class, too.

Joe wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
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They're educated, wealthy, vain individuals with a high capacity for hate.


Sounds like the current leaders of the democratic party.




Still poor, dumb Joe, eh, Joe?