"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

Gulp! Does that mean Gould "lied" when he said that burger flippers
*were*
reclassified as manufacturing jobs?

Maybe just gullible.


More precisely, misled by the administration's own recommendation that
fast food jobs should now be considered manufacturing.

(Sort of like "ketchup counts as a vegetable in a school lunch")

Whatever the source of my misinformation, I do hereby admit to being
underinformed and reaching an erroneous conclusion. You guys have to be
correct
once in a while, how the heck else could you be called the "right" wing?
:-)


Geez, Gould, I gave you a flat-out "apology" (that you were going to bronze)
in the boat speed thread. You, OTH, in true liberal fashion, blame somebody
else.



Now, if I said that DC hookers were being counted as a "service industry",
*that* would be a lie.

But it would be more realistic and believable, don't you agree?

Geez, Gould, I gave you a flat-out "apology" (that you were going to bronze)
in the boat speed thread. You, OTH, in true liberal fashion, blame somebody
else.

An apology is only appropriate when one has committed an offensive personal
act.
(Such as calling somebody a liar).

Absent such egregious, brutish behavior, an admission of error is sufficient. I
admitted my error, and explained the basis upon which it was founded.

Being incorrect once in a while isn't a sin, nor should taking a position
ultimately proved to be wrong be construed as an insult by those on the other
side of the question.

The entire purpose of discussion is to explore truth, not determine who should
be taken out an shot for being less correct on an issue.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Geez, Gould, I gave you a flat-out "apology" (that you were going to
bronze)
in the boat speed thread. You, OTH, in true liberal fashion, blame
somebody
else.

An apology is only appropriate when one has committed an offensive
personal
act.

Then I retract my apology for initially providing you with inaccurate data
on the boat speed/economy thread.

Then I retract my apology for initially providing you with inaccurate data
on the boat speed/economy thread.

No apology was sought.

I wanted to bronze your admission of error, (a rare item), not the apology.

If you care to apologize for accusing me of being a liar, I'd accept that.

You might have noticed that when our perspectives differed in the boat speed
thread I never stooped to insult. It really is possible to take different sides
without getting all grammar school about it. Yes, it's increasingly rare but
diplomacy is an art we would all do well to cultivate.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Then I retract my apology for initially providing you with inaccurate
data
on the boat speed/economy thread.

No apology was sought.

I wanted to bronze your admission of error, (a rare item), not the
apology.

If you care to apologize for accusing me of being a liar, I'd accept that.


You lied, thus the label of "liar". Of course, once caught in the lie, you
simply stated you were "misinformed"...which is a second lie.

Liar.







You might have noticed that when our perspectives differed in the boat
speed
thread I never stooped to insult. It really is possible to take different
sides
without getting all grammar school about it. Yes, it's increasingly rare
but
diplomacy is an art we would all do well to cultivate.

NOYB,
It can only be considered a lie, if the person knew the information was
incorrect and continued to repeat the information. I read the same info
that Gould did, and when he made the statement I tried to find out if the
change in manufacturing jobs had actually been implemented. I could not
find any reference to the change being rejected by the administration.
Joe, did a great job of going to the source and asking the question, but the
fact that Gould did not, does not make him a liar.


"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Then I retract my apology for initially providing you with inaccurate
data
on the boat speed/economy thread.

No apology was sought.

I wanted to bronze your admission of error, (a rare item), not the
apology.

If you care to apologize for accusing me of being a liar, I'd accept
that.


You lied, thus the label of "liar". Of course, once caught in the lie,
you
simply stated you were "misinformed"...which is a second lie.

Liar.







You might have noticed that when our perspectives differed in the boat
speed
thread I never stooped to insult. It really is possible to take
different
sides
without getting all grammar school about it. Yes, it's increasingly rare
but
diplomacy is an art we would all do well to cultivate.

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:wgixc.15168$HG.6000@attbi_s53...
NOYB,
It can only be considered a lie, if the person knew the information was
incorrect and continued to repeat the information. I read the same info
that Gould did, and when he made the statement I tried to find out if the
change in manufacturing jobs had actually been implemented. I could not
find any reference to the change being rejected by the administration.
Joe, did a great job of going to the source and asking the question, but
the
fact that Gould did not, does not make him a liar.


"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Then I retract my apology for initially providing you with inaccurate
data
on the boat speed/economy thread.

No apology was sought.

I wanted to bronze your admission of error, (a rare item), not the
apology.

If you care to apologize for accusing me of being a liar, I'd accept
that.


You lied, thus the label of "liar". Of course, once caught in the lie,
you
simply stated you were "misinformed"...which is a second lie.

Liar.







You might have noticed that when our perspectives differed in the boat
speed
thread I never stooped to insult. It really is possible to take
different
sides
without getting all grammar school about it. Yes, it's increasingly
rare
but
diplomacy is an art we would all do well to cultivate.


John,
Gould stated "mini-wage burger flippers were reclassified as "manufacturing"
workers".

When I pointed out he was wrong, he made at least a dozen or so posts
defending his original claim.

He was being intentionally deceptive (ie--purposely spinning the facts to
suit his intended goal of discrediting a positive economic report) In my
World, spinning is lying. With all of the spin coming out of Washington and
the media, you've just become immune to that fact.

A Republican and a Democrat were walking down the
street when they came upon a homeless person. The
Republican gave the homeless person his business card
and told him to come to his business for a job. He
then took twenty dollars out of his pocket and gave it
to the homeless person.

The Democrat was very impressed, and when they came to
another homeless person, he decided to help. He walked
over to the homeless person and gave him directions to
the welfare office. Then he then reached into the
Republican's pocket and got out twenty dollars, gave
the homeless person five and kept 15 for administrative
overhead.

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

Geez, Gould, I gave you a flat-out "apology" (that you were going to
bronze)
in the boat speed thread. You, OTH, in true liberal fashion, blame
somebody
else.


It's more than I expected.

Last time he was proven wrong on BLS statistics he faded into the
background.

"Joe" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

Geez, Gould, I gave you a flat-out "apology" (that you were going to
bronze)
in the boat speed thread. You, OTH, in true liberal fashion, blame
somebody
else.


It's more than I expected.

Last time he was proven wrong on BLS statistics he faded into the
background.


It's the new and unimproved Gould.

Didn't he say he was going to stay out of political threads?

What a liar!