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Judge: School Pledge Is Unconstitutional
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... By DAVID KRAVETS, Associated Press Writer 10 minutes ago A federal judge declared the reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools unconstitutional Wednesday in a case brought by the same atheist whose previous battle against the words "under God" was rejected by the U.S. Supreme Court on procedural grounds. U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton A liberal California judge. I really wish that the state of California would either secede from the union...or crumble into the sea during the next earthquake. They are completely out of touch with the rest of America. This will now go to the liberal 9th Circuit Court of Appeals...where they'll hurry it along to the Supreme Court in the hopes that it will be heard before the court's vacancies are filled. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... ......................snip............ Newdow's argument makes perfect sense. People in this country should be "free from a coercive requirement to affirm God." Take out those two words and the Pledge is fine. I agree with you Harry. You're correct on this one! Jim |
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"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... By DAVID KRAVETS, Associated Press Writer 10 minutes ago A federal judge declared the reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools unconstitutional Wednesday in a case brought by the same atheist whose previous battle against the words "under God" was rejected by the U.S. Supreme Court on procedural grounds. U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton A liberal California judge. I really wish that the state of California would either secede from the union...or crumble into the sea during the next earthquake. They are completely out of touch with the rest of America. But not out of touch with the constitution which is quite clear on this matter. It beyond me why religious folks - some of them anyway - are so insecure in their beliefs that they have to have help from the government. The gov't should be completely neutral when it comes to religion. Of course some nitwits thnk that "freedon of religion" mean you can choose Baptist, Methodist, or Presbeterian. -- Peter Aitken |
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"Peter Aitken" wrote in message ... But not out of touch with the constitution which is quite clear on this matter. It beyond me why religious folks - some of them anyway - are so insecure in their beliefs that they have to have help from the government. The gov't should be completely neutral when it comes to religion. Of course some nitwits thnk that "freedon of religion" mean you can choose Baptist, Methodist, or Presbeterian. Peter Aitken Excellent reply Peter. It shows that you are a man that can think for himself. Jim |
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"Peter Aitken" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... By DAVID KRAVETS, Associated Press Writer 10 minutes ago A federal judge declared the reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools unconstitutional Wednesday in a case brought by the same atheist whose previous battle against the words "under God" was rejected by the U.S. Supreme Court on procedural grounds. U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton A liberal California judge. I really wish that the state of California would either secede from the union...or crumble into the sea during the next earthquake. They are completely out of touch with the rest of America. But not out of touch with the constitution which is quite clear on this matter. It beyond me why religious folks - some of them anyway - are so insecure in their beliefs that they have to have help from the government. The gov't should be completely neutral when it comes to religion. Of course some nitwits thnk that "freedon of religion" mean you can choose Baptist, Methodist, or Presbeterian. -- Peter Aitken The nitwits are the people that seem to believe the constitution somehow reads "freedom from religion" WRT anyone being "out of touch" with the constitution, it is those that believe in the falsehood of a "wall of separation" |
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"P Fritz" wrote in message
... "Peter Aitken" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... By DAVID KRAVETS, Associated Press Writer 10 minutes ago A federal judge declared the reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools unconstitutional Wednesday in a case brought by the same atheist whose previous battle against the words "under God" was rejected by the U.S. Supreme Court on procedural grounds. U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton A liberal California judge. I really wish that the state of California would either secede from the union...or crumble into the sea during the next earthquake. They are completely out of touch with the rest of America. But not out of touch with the constitution which is quite clear on this matter. It beyond me why religious folks - some of them anyway - are so insecure in their beliefs that they have to have help from the government. The gov't should be completely neutral when it comes to religion. Of course some nitwits thnk that "freedon of religion" mean you can choose Baptist, Methodist, or Presbeterian. -- Peter Aitken The nitwits are the people that seem to believe the constitution somehow reads "freedom from religion" It means "freedom from YOUR religion", nitwit. How would you like it if the pledge read "under Buddha", instead of "under god"? |
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Doug Kanter wrote in message news:CO%Ve.1155 How would you like it if the pledge read "under Buddha", instead of "under god"? I don't know. I've often felt underbuddha, but it usually passes in a day or two. Eisboch |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "P Fritz" wrote in message The nitwits are the people that seem to believe the constitution somehow reads "freedom from religion" It means "freedom from YOUR religion", nitwit. How would you like it if the pledge read "under Buddha", instead of "under god"? We've got it all wrong. Shouldn't the pledge say "... under God, Buddah, Allah, Yaweh, etc." Then we could all get along. Whenever a new religion comes along we can add that deity as well. |
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"Ben" . net wrote in message m... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "P Fritz" wrote in message The nitwits are the people that seem to believe the constitution somehow reads "freedom from religion" It means "freedom from YOUR religion", nitwit. How would you like it if the pledge read "under Buddha", instead of "under god"? We've got it all wrong. Shouldn't the pledge say "... under God, Buddah, Allah, Yaweh, etc." Then we could all get along. Whenever a new religion comes along we can add that deity as well. God is a collective name. |
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"P Fritz" wrote in message
... "Peter Aitken" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... By DAVID KRAVETS, Associated Press Writer 10 minutes ago A federal judge declared the reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools unconstitutional Wednesday in a case brought by the same atheist whose previous battle against the words "under God" was rejected by the U.S. Supreme Court on procedural grounds. U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton A liberal California judge. I really wish that the state of California would either secede from the union...or crumble into the sea during the next earthquake. They are completely out of touch with the rest of America. But not out of touch with the constitution which is quite clear on this matter. It beyond me why religious folks - some of them anyway - are so insecure in their beliefs that they have to have help from the government. The gov't should be completely neutral when it comes to religion. Of course some nitwits thnk that "freedon of religion" mean you can choose Baptist, Methodist, or Presbeterian. -- Peter Aitken The nitwits are the people that seem to believe the constitution somehow reads "freedom from religion" Freedom certainly means that you can do without something. In any case there are religions for whom "under god" is a meaningless and silly phrase - Hinduism and Buddhism to name just two major ones. -- Peter Aitken |
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