Harry,

ironicly enough, your ol' buddy Bill Oreilley was blasting the oil
companies last night for the gouging they give to the US.

People can't afford $4-6.00 gas, but the oil companies were amassing
175 Bil + $$$ profits.

Tim

"OlBlueEyes" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote in
:

I certainly hope that while Bush pushes for tax cuts for the wealthy, he
pushes for some energy subsidies for the poor.

The left wing wants to see more conservation. Subsidies encourage
consumption. Explain the contradiction, please.

Speaking of the poor.....and I sympathize with them,
but...........summarizing a topic discussed today on national radio:

When Roosevelt suggested setting up tent cities outside of major cities
(places to find work) to help the "dust bowl" refugees find meaningful work
in those cities he was scorned and told that doing so would take away the
victims drive and ambition to actually work.....depending on the US
government to subsidize them. He went ahead with the project. Folks
worked to get enough money to buy food for their families despite the
objections on the project.

Ever read "The Grapes of Wrath"?

Funny thing though.....since that time more and more people have become
dependant on the government and the federal government has made that their
number one budget output.

Understand that this was never a function of the federal government prior to
that time...........OK..........fast click to today.................consider
the Katrina disaster and focus on New Orleans.

If.............Bush were to suggest that the folks who were homeless and
penniless because of Katrina live in housing compounds just outside NO's
(all built and subsidized by the US) and work to rebuild the city (paid a
fair wage by the US government, transported to the worksites by US
government buses), but with that work including recovering and digging
graves for the victims...........there would be an outcry from the libs and
the victims...........how dare you ask these folks to work such demeaning
jobs for their survival! Indeed.

We live in a different world now, 180 degrees from the
1930's..............there is no doubt about it.

Fact in point.............Houston is asking for volunteers to help serve
food and to maintain the Astrodome for the homeless now living there. Eh?
Last I checked there were thousands of folks sitting on cots............why
can't they *volunteer* and help themselves?

Answer.......go back and reread this post.

I am not insensitive.....we were quick to volunteer money and time when we
read about the need. But I am tired of folks blaming others for their
problems and relying on the government (*our* money) to live. My family has
worked (my kids, my wife and me since age 12). We have never asked for a
dime from the government. We also would know to get out of a place
predicted 72 hours in advance of being a natural disaster because of an
approaching storm....we would certainly not rely on the government to save
us. We also know that one needs an education so as not to have to live with
no means to move and relocate when a disaster approaches, or to depend on
the government for our long term survival.

I am tired of paying for others that can work but choose not to. I am tired
of high taxes and tax increases. I am tired of folks not taking
responsibilities for their lives.

End of rant. Call me insensitive, not PC or whatever phrase you want to
use. I could care less.

"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

"OlBlueEyes" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote in
:

I certainly hope that while Bush pushes for tax cuts for the wealthy, he
pushes for some energy subsidies for the poor.

The left wing wants to see more conservation. Subsidies encourage
consumption. Explain the contradiction, please.

Speaking of the poor.....and I sympathize with them,
but...........summarizing a topic discussed today on national radio:

When Roosevelt suggested setting up tent cities outside of major cities
(places to find work) to help the "dust bowl" refugees find meaningful
work in those cities he was scorned and told that doing so would take away
the victims drive and ambition to actually work.....depending on the US
government to subsidize them. He went ahead with the project. Folks
worked to get enough money to buy food for their families despite the
objections on the project.

Ever read "The Grapes of Wrath"?

Funny thing though.....since that time more and more people have become
dependant on the government and the federal government has made that their
number one budget output.

Understand that this was never a function of the federal government prior
to that time...........OK..........fast click to
today.................consider the Katrina disaster and focus on New
Orleans.

If.............Bush were to suggest that the folks who were homeless and
penniless because of Katrina live in housing compounds just outside NO's
(all built and subsidized by the US) and work to rebuild the city (paid a
fair wage by the US government, transported to the worksites by US
government buses), but with that work including recovering and digging
graves for the victims...........there would be an outcry from the libs
and the victims...........how dare you ask these folks to work such
demeaning jobs for their survival! Indeed.

We live in a different world now, 180 degrees from the
1930's..............there is no doubt about it.

Fact in point.............Houston is asking for volunteers to help serve
food and to maintain the Astrodome for the homeless now living there. Eh?
Last I checked there were thousands of folks sitting on
cots............why can't they *volunteer* and help themselves?

Answer.......go back and reread this post.

I am not insensitive.....we were quick to volunteer money and time when we
read about the need. But I am tired of folks blaming others for their
problems and relying on the government (*our* money) to live. My family
has worked (my kids, my wife and me since age 12). We have never asked
for a dime from the government. We also would know to get out of a place
predicted 72 hours in advance of being a natural disaster because of an
approaching storm....we would certainly not rely on the government to save
us. We also know that one needs an education so as not to have to live
with no means to move and relocate when a disaster approaches, or to
depend on the government for our long term survival.

I am tired of paying for others that can work but choose not to. I am
tired of high taxes and tax increases. I am tired of folks not taking
responsibilities for their lives.

End of rant. Call me insensitive, not PC or whatever phrase you want to
use. I could care less.


Forgot to add:

Why can immigrant to this country make it, sometimes in a very big way?

I am not only talking about our grandparents or parents who came over from
Europe but also the recent immigrants....the ones owning gas stations,
'quickie stores', delis and driving taxi's.........and feeding off the lazy
and uneducated who have no desire to work or succeed?

The answer is obvious. Back track to the beginning of my rant. ;-)

I truly feel sorry for my children and their children if this trend
continues.....hopefully this disaster will be a wakeup call ........I doubt
it though.

"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

"OlBlueEyes" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote in
:

I certainly hope that while Bush pushes for tax cuts for the wealthy,
he
pushes for some energy subsidies for the poor.

The left wing wants to see more conservation. Subsidies encourage
consumption. Explain the contradiction, please.

Speaking of the poor.....and I sympathize with them,
but...........summarizing a topic discussed today on national radio:

When Roosevelt suggested setting up tent cities (paid for by the US
Govt. ) outside of major cities (places to find work) to help the "dust
bowl" refugees find meaningful work in those cities (the US Govt offered
a fair wage for the work) he was scorned and told that doing so would
take away the victims drive and ambition to actually work, with them
depending on the US government to subsidize them.


He went ahead with the project. Folks worked to get enough money to buy
food for their families despite the objections on the project. The
project was a sucess despite the detractors.

Have you ever read "The Grapes of Wrath"?

Funny thing though.....since that time more and more people have become
dependant on the federal government, which has now made that their
number one budget output. Understand that this was never a function of
the federal government prior to that time.

OK..........fast click to today.................consider the Katrina
disaster and focus on New Orleans.

If.............Bush were to suggest that the folks who are homeless and
penniless because of Katrina live in housing compounds just outside NO's
(all built and subsidized by the US) and work to rebuild the city (paid a
fair wage by the US government, transported to the worksites by US
government buses), but with that work including recovering and digging
graves for the victims...........there would be an outcry from the libs
and the victims...........how dare you ask these folks to work such
demeaning jobs for their survival! Indeed.

We live in a different world now, 180 degrees from the
1930's..............there is no doubt about it.

Fact in point.............Houston is asking for volunteers to help serve
food and to maintain the Astrodome for the homeless now living there.
Eh? Last I checked there were thousands of folks sitting on
cots............why can't they *volunteer* and help themselves?

Answer.......go back and reread this post.

I am not insensitive.....we were quick to volunteer money and time when
we read about the need. But I am tired of folks blaming others for
their problems and relying on the government (*our* money) to live. My
family has worked (my kids, my wife and me since age 12). We have never
asked for a dime from the government. We also would know to get out of a
place predicted 72 hours in advance of being a natural disaster because
of an approaching storm....we would certainly not rely on the government
to save us. We also know that one needs an education so as not to have
to live with no means to move and relocate when a disaster approaches, or
to depend on the government for our long term survival.

I am tired of paying for others that can work but choose not to. I am
tired of high taxes and tax increases. I am tired of folks not taking
responsibilities for their lives.

End of rant. Call me insensitive, not PC or whatever phrase you want to
use. I could care less.


Forgot to add:

Why can immigrant to this country make it, sometimes in a very big way?

I am not only talking about our grandparents or parents who came over from
Europe but also the recent immigrants....the ones owning gas stations,
'quickie stores', delis and driving taxi's.........and feeding off the
lazy and uneducated who have no desire to work or succeed?

The answer is obvious. Back track to the beginning of my rant. ;-)

I truly feel sorry for my children and their children if this trend
continues.....hopefully this disaster will be a wakeup call ........I
doubt it though.

On 8 Sep 2005 15:40:46 -0700, "Tim" wrote:

Harry,

ironicly enough, your ol' buddy Bill Oreilley was blasting the oil
companies last night for the gouging they give to the US.

People can't afford $4-6.00 gas, but the oil companies were amassing
175 Bil + $$$ profits.

Tim

O'Reilly blasts a lot of the administrations activities, or lack thereof. The
problem is that he will blast both sides. When one is normally exposed to only
one side, the 'both side' blasting seems very biased!

How much heat has be been giving the administration for the border problem? A
bunch!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I think it is ironic that Houston (Oil capital of the US) is taking many
of the refugees..... Paybacks are hell.... They have the taxbase to
cover it...





Tim wrote:
Harry,

ironicly enough, your ol' buddy Bill Oreilley was blasting the oil
companies last night for the gouging they give to the US.

People can't afford $4-6.00 gas, but the oil companies were amassing
175 Bil + $$$ profits.

Tim

More ironic is the fact that an apparent Republican State has to bail out a
city and State run by Democrats.

Go figure. ;-)


"Ed" wrote in message
...
I think it is ironic that Houston (Oil capital of the US) is taking many of
the refugees..... Paybacks are hell.... They have the taxbase to cover
it...





Tim wrote:
Harry,

ironicly enough, your ol' buddy Bill Oreilley was blasting the oil
companies last night for the gouging they give to the US.

People can't afford $4-6.00 gas, but the oil companies were amassing
175 Bil + $$$ profits.

Tim

And the FEDERAL Government failed to evacuate the city... even though
the Mayor fled to Florida and left 200 school buses unused for the
cause....

*JimH* wrote:
More ironic is the fact that an apparent Republican State has to bail out a
city and State run by Democrats.

Go figure. ;-)


"Ed" wrote in message
...

I think it is ironic that Houston (Oil capital of the US) is taking many of
the refugees..... Paybacks are hell.... They have the taxbase to cover
it...





Tim wrote:

Harry,

ironicly enough, your ol' buddy Bill Oreilley was blasting the oil
companies last night for the gouging they give to the US.

People can't afford $4-6.00 gas, but the oil companies were amassing
175 Bil + $$$ profits.

Tim

City leader = Mayor
State leader = Governor

"Ed" wrote in message
. ..
And the FEDERAL Government failed to evacuate the city... even though the
Mayor fled to Florida and left 200 school buses unused for the cause....

*JimH* wrote:
More ironic is the fact that an apparent Republican State has to bail out
a city and State run by Democrats.

Go figure. ;-)


"Ed" wrote in message
...

I think it is ironic that Houston (Oil capital of the US) is taking many
of the refugees..... Paybacks are hell.... They have the taxbase to cover
it...





Tim wrote:

Harry,

ironicly enough, your ol' buddy Bill Oreilley was blasting the oil
companies last night for the gouging they give to the US.

People can't afford $4-6.00 gas, but the oil companies were amassing
175 Bil + $$$ profits.

Tim

*JimH* wrote:
More ironic is the fact that an apparent Republican State has to bail out a
city and State run by Democrats.

You just have to make it a this versus them thing, don't you. Typical.