On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 13:49:15 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"PocoLoco" wrote in message
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On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:35:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

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On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:30:06 -0400, Harry Krause
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No food, no water, and people falling over dead at the Superdome in New
Orleans, and the mighty U.S. military can't figure out a way to get
there with supplies RIGHT NOW?

Is it because our best assets are being wasted in Iraq? Is it because
we're stupid?

It ain't rocket science. It is three days after the hurricane, and
we're not doing any better for those in the most need than the
government of Bangladesh might do?

It took a long time to get to Homestead after Andrew too. (the other
guy was in the White House)
It just takes a long time to get these things going.

Any major grocery manufacturer could handle this in under 72 hours.
Example:

Dinty Moore canned beef stew
12 24 oz cans per case.
1400 cases per truck
$32,200.00 per truck plus shipping.

From order to delivery, barring blizzards: 72 hours anywhere in the
lower
48. Other groceries are similar, except for some frozen items. If
supplies
aren't delivered to HOUSTON that quickly, it's because nobody has tried
hard
enough. If this is the case, President Nookular should be stuck in the
crowd
with the hungry so he can live with them until the right thing is done:
Let
the grocery business handle it, and wire them the funds.


Your trucks do well in six feet of water? Houston isn't the problem. Have
you
seen what remains of I-10?

Have you seen what happens when the looters, armed with AK-47's, surround
one of the rescue vehicles ?

What kind of friggin' animal shoots at relief helicopters, national
guardsmen, and police officers?




I really don't understand why people like that haven't been gunned down
without any questions, warnings or conversations.


Because most of the NO cops have left the job, like the friggin' mayor! Why
hasn't the *Louisiana* National Guard been mobilized by the friggin' LA
governor?

Don't need to hear any Iraq crap either!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 13:45:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Stanley Barthfarkle" wrote in message
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There are over a dozen (12) police, National Guard, Coast Guard, and
Medical Evac helicopters being used in New Orleans. They briefly stopped
evacuating 2 hospitals today when a helicopter came under small arms fire.

Here's a grizzly thought: Ku Klux Klan or similar types, taking this
opportunity to shoot black people while the cops are helpless?


Now you sound like Sharpton - Bush is holding back food and protection because
the majority of those in need are black.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:48:12 -0400, thunder wrote:

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:12:47 +0000, OlBlueEyes wrote:

"Doug Kanter" wrote in
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Here's a grizzly thought: Ku Klux Klan or similar types, taking this
opportunity to shoot black people while the cops are helpless?

Louisiana is a Blue State, so only criminals have guns.

Bzzzt, that's two for two. Louisiana voted for Bush, and is a shall issue
state.


Was New Orleans a Bush city?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 12:32:25 -0400, "Jeff Rigby" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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bb wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:52:05 -0400, "Starbucks"
wrote:

I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for
political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry.

So you're saying pointing out the complete ineptness of our government
to provide basic food, shelter and safety should be ignored because it
makes some politicians look bad? Yeah, screw the needy, let's make
sure the white collar criminals don't look bad.

bb

At three days after the event (Katrina) we are talking about people without
water and food. In Florida, everyone had food and water after the
hurricanes, we all keep a supply handy in case of a hurricane. Every season
we are told hundreds of times to keep food and water on hand. I've got 40
gallons of diesel fuel and a generator already connected to my
home/business. That's enough for 5 days of 100% power for everything except
the water heater, clothes drier and Electric stove.

At 6 miles inland and 27 feet above sea level I'm safe from the 25 foot
storm surges of a cat 5. I expect damage to my building and keep ropes and
tarps on had to fix leaks in the roof. The people seaward of me I'd take
in on a temp basis until they found permanent housing. Why isn't this being
done in Louisiana?

Someone needs to say this nationally if only to keep it from being repeated.
Your first duty is to be prepared for the safety of yourself and your
family. To depend totally on the government or others is to make yourself
dependant. Inept government, hmmmm the government you deserve.


I honestly believe that even Marion Barry could do better than the mayor of New
Orleans. What a joke.

There are more stories in the paper about helicopters bringing in sling loads of
food getting *shot* at!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Jeff Rigby wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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bb wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:52:05 -0400, "Starbucks"
wrote:

I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for
political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry.
So you're saying pointing out the complete ineptness of our government
to provide basic food, shelter and safety should be ignored because it
makes some politicians look bad? Yeah, screw the needy, let's make
sure the white collar criminals don't look bad.

bb

At three days after the event (Katrina) we are talking about people
without water and food. In Florida, everyone had food and water after
the hurricanes, we all keep a supply handy in case of a hurricane. Every
season we are told hundreds of times to keep food and water on hand.
I've got 40 gallons of diesel fuel and a generator already connected to
my home/business. That's enough for 5 days of 100% power for everything
except the water heater, clothes drier and Electric stove.

At 6 miles inland and 27 feet above sea level I'm safe from the 25 foot
storm surges of a cat 5. I expect damage to my building and keep ropes
and tarps on hand to fix leaks in the roof. The people seaward of me
I'd take in on a temp basis until they found permanent housing. Why
isn't this being done in Louisiana?

Someone needs to say this nationally if only to keep it from being
repeated. Your first duty is to be prepared for the safety of yourself
and your family. To depend totally on the government or others is to
make yourself dependant. Inept government, hmmmm the government you
deserve.

That's wonderful for you. Unlikely many impoverished people are as
well-equipped.

To not have food and water for 3 days Harry?? Oh, they eat out every
night..... Must be rich then cause I can't afford to eat out. For the
Hurricane I just buy a couple of cans of Spam, canned chicken, Dintymore
beef stew some canned vegatables and fill a couple of old milk bottles.
Total cost $30.00

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
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On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 12:32:25 -0400, "Jeff Rigby"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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bb wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:52:05 -0400, "Starbucks"
wrote:

I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for
political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry.

So you're saying pointing out the complete ineptness of our government
to provide basic food, shelter and safety should be ignored because it
makes some politicians look bad? Yeah, screw the needy, let's make
sure the white collar criminals don't look bad.

bb

At three days after the event (Katrina) we are talking about people
without
water and food. In Florida, everyone had food and water after the
hurricanes, we all keep a supply handy in case of a hurricane. Every
season
we are told hundreds of times to keep food and water on hand. I've got 40
gallons of diesel fuel and a generator already connected to my
home/business. That's enough for 5 days of 100% power for everything
except
the water heater, clothes drier and Electric stove.

At 6 miles inland and 27 feet above sea level I'm safe from the 25 foot
storm surges of a cat 5. I expect damage to my building and keep ropes and
tarps on had to fix leaks in the roof. The people seaward of me I'd take
in on a temp basis until they found permanent housing. Why isn't this
being
done in Louisiana?

Someone needs to say this nationally if only to keep it from being
repeated.
Your first duty is to be prepared for the safety of yourself and your
family. To depend totally on the government or others is to make yourself
dependant. Inept government, hmmmm the government you deserve.


I honestly believe that even Marion Barry could do better than the mayor
of New
Orleans. What a joke.

There are more stories in the paper about helicopters bringing in sling
loads of
food getting *shot* at!
--
John H

To be fair, anyone in Government is constantly being bombarded with people
begging for money for good causes. In most cases they are good causes and
worthy of the governments money. It's hard to say no to put money into a
preparedness fund when you don't KNOW you will ever need it. After the fact
everyone is second guessing you so the cowardly politician starts to blame
someone else, like they are blaming the Federal government and Bush.

On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 13:21:43 -0400, "Jeff Rigby" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Jeff Rigby wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
bb wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:52:05 -0400, "Starbucks"
wrote:

I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for
political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry.
So you're saying pointing out the complete ineptness of our government
to provide basic food, shelter and safety should be ignored because it
makes some politicians look bad? Yeah, screw the needy, let's make
sure the white collar criminals don't look bad.

bb

At three days after the event (Katrina) we are talking about people
without water and food. In Florida, everyone had food and water after
the hurricanes, we all keep a supply handy in case of a hurricane. Every
season we are told hundreds of times to keep food and water on hand.
I've got 40 gallons of diesel fuel and a generator already connected to
my home/business. That's enough for 5 days of 100% power for everything
except the water heater, clothes drier and Electric stove.

At 6 miles inland and 27 feet above sea level I'm safe from the 25 foot
storm surges of a cat 5. I expect damage to my building and keep ropes
and tarps on hand to fix leaks in the roof. The people seaward of me
I'd take in on a temp basis until they found permanent housing. Why
isn't this being done in Louisiana?

Someone needs to say this nationally if only to keep it from being
repeated. Your first duty is to be prepared for the safety of yourself
and your family. To depend totally on the government or others is to
make yourself dependant. Inept government, hmmmm the government you
deserve.

That's wonderful for you. Unlikely many impoverished people are as
well-equipped.

To not have food and water for 3 days Harry?? Oh, they eat out every
night..... Must be rich then cause I can't afford to eat out. For the
Hurricane I just buy a couple of cans of Spam, canned chicken, Dintymore
beef stew some canned vegatables and fill a couple of old milk bottles.
Total cost $30.00




Jeff, you're obviously talking about people with some sense. There are a whole
potful of people who don't have the sense God gave a goose, but that's Bush's
fault.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
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I really don't understand why people like that haven't been gunned down
without any questions, warnings or conversations.


Because most of the NO cops have left the job, like the friggin' mayor!
Why
hasn't the *Louisiana* National Guard been mobilized by the friggin' LA
governor?

Don't need to hear any Iraq crap either!

Actually, you *do* need to hear some Iraq crap, because we're getting
stretched pretty thin. But hey..better that they be overseas where they're
actually needed, right?

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 17:40:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
.. .


I really don't understand why people like that haven't been gunned down
without any questions, warnings or conversations.


Because most of the NO cops have left the job, like the friggin' mayor!
Why
hasn't the *Louisiana* National Guard been mobilized by the friggin' LA
governor?

Don't need to hear any Iraq crap either!

Actually, you *do* need to hear some Iraq crap, because we're getting
stretched pretty thin. But hey..better that they be overseas where they're
actually needed, right?

A **** poor excuse with no basis in fact. We are not hurting for National
Guardsmen to send to Louisiana, nor is Louisiana!

The governor asked for a "Berlin drop" of food and water. How stupid are the
leaders down there? Would 'dropping' a bunch of food and water in the water do
some good?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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PocoLoco wrote:
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 13:21:43 -0400, "Jeff Rigby"
wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jeff Rigby wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
bb wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:52:05 -0400, "Starbucks"
wrote:

I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans
for political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry.
So you're saying pointing out the complete ineptness of our
government
to provide basic food, shelter and safety should be ignored because
it
makes some politicians look bad? Yeah, screw the needy, let's make
sure the white collar criminals don't look bad.

bb

At three days after the event (Katrina) we are talking about people
without water and food. In Florida, everyone had food and water after
the hurricanes, we all keep a supply handy in case of a hurricane.
Every season we are told hundreds of times to keep food and water on
hand. I've got 40 gallons of diesel fuel and a generator already
connected to my home/business. That's enough for 5 days of 100% power
for everything except the water heater, clothes drier and Electric
stove.

At 6 miles inland and 27 feet above sea level I'm safe from the 25
foot storm surges of a cat 5. I expect damage to my building and keep
ropes and tarps on hand to fix leaks in the roof. The people seaward
of me I'd take in on a temp basis until they found permanent housing.
Why isn't this being done in Louisiana?

Someone needs to say this nationally if only to keep it from being
repeated. Your first duty is to be prepared for the safety of yourself
and your family. To depend totally on the government or others is to
make yourself dependant. Inept government, hmmmm the government you
deserve.
That's wonderful for you. Unlikely many impoverished people are as
well-equipped.
To not have food and water for 3 days Harry?? Oh, they eat out every
night..... Must be rich then cause I can't afford to eat out. For the
Hurricane I just buy a couple of cans of Spam, canned chicken, Dintymore
beef stew some canned vegatables and fill a couple of old milk bottles.
Total cost $30.00


Jeff, you're obviously talking about people with some sense. There are a
whole
potful of people who don't have the sense God gave a goose, but that's
Bush's
fault.


Another Kooky Kompassionate Konservative.

I live in the real world (red state) Harry where HONEST opinions and
comments are appreciated by honest and open minded people. It has nothing
to do with race but with mindset. I want nothing but the best for my fellow
man not a subclass that can be enslaved with low wages because they can't
think for themselves. Being politically correct can not help people with
their head up their ass.