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We can't even take care of our own...
I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for
political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry. All I have to say is F*ck You Harry. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... No food, no water, and people falling over dead at the Superdome in New Orleans, and the mighty U.S. military can't figure out a way to get there with supplies RIGHT NOW? Is it because our best assets are being wasted in Iraq? Is it because we're stupid? It ain't rocket science. It is three days after the hurricane, and we're not doing any better for those in the most need than the government of Bangladesh might do? |
On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:52:05 -0400, "Starbucks"
wrote: I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry. So you're saying pointing out the complete ineptness of our government to provide basic food, shelter and safety should be ignored because it makes some politicians look bad? Yeah, screw the needy, let's make sure the white collar criminals don't look bad. bb |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... No food, no water, and people falling over dead at the Superdome in New Orleans, and the mighty U.S. military can't figure out a way to get there with supplies RIGHT NOW? Is it because our best assets are being wasted in Iraq? Is it because we're stupid? It ain't rocket science. It is three days after the hurricane, and we're not doing any better for those in the most need than the government of Bangladesh might do? Two days ago, there was a huge convoy of trucks that left Canada with relief supplies for New Orleans. That convoy arrived today in Louisiana. This is a group of Mennonite farmers from Ontario that has for years had a warehouse of supplies, ready, in case of need. This same group of very simple people sent many containers of relief supplies to Thailand after the Tsunami. Jim |
Starbucks wrote: I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry. All I have to say is F*ck You Harry. That's odd, Sean Hannity, the darling of the right wing liars, while whining about NOT making this a political issue, peppered his diatribe with many, many insults pointed at the left, and many, many remarks about how if left wingers were in power, how they'd be inept at getting anything done. |
This morning's news mentioned that some helicopters had been shot at around
the Superdome, so pilots were refusing to fly until that problem was crushed. "Martin-Paul Broennimann" wrote in message ... Hi, I'm not a US citizen, and I will not criticise your governement on an inside issue. But how should we understand that the copters aren't in there, lifting the people out of central New Orleans? -- Martin-Paul Broennimann architecte et urbaniste SIA/FSU 14, rue du Diorama CH 1204 Genève Switzerland 0041 78 627 29 67 arrêt TPG place du Cirque parking Hôtel des Finances visit our website= www.broennimann.com "Harry Krause" a écrit dans le message de news: ... bb wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:52:05 -0400, "Starbucks" wrote: I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry. So you're saying pointing out the complete ineptness of our government to provide basic food, shelter and safety should be ignored because it makes some politicians look bad? Yeah, screw the needy, let's make sure the white collar criminals don't look bad. bb Smithers is active again, eh? I guess he wore out the sheep. I just saw a bunch of Bush Administration officials on TV patting themselves on the back for their great efforts to date, and the Homeland Security Director saying everything is under control at the SuperDome. I suppose no one told him about the news reports and videos showing people dying inside the Dome for lack of food, water, and medical attention. Most of the emphasis of these Bush officials was on law enforcement, not relief. No one told them that disaster victims who are being fed and sheltered and receiving proper care are less likely to loot? What a crock this Bush Administration is. They ought to be driven out of town. |
Harry pontificating from the comfort of a northeastern yacht club
barstool or from the safe ivory towers of academe is like the blowhard upper crust brits discussing the irish potato famine. Those of us in the real world know something of real world difficulties, whereas Harry is merely a theorist, and a poor one at that. |
I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry. I just saw a bunch of Bush Administration officials on TV patting themselves on the back for their great efforts to date, and the Homeland Security Director saying everything is under control at the SuperDome. I suppose no one told him about the news reports and videos showing people dying inside the Dome for lack of food, water, and medical attention. Most of the emphasis of these Bush officials was on law enforcement, not relief. Get a grip Harry. First - how many have died in the SuperDome? I suppose you choose to ignore the fact that the Coast Guard is constantly flying choppers in an effort to rescue trapped individuals. How about the fact that over 5 ships are now on station or on the way to New Orleans (they all left as soon as the storm passed) to provide supplies, rescue operations and medical assistance? The National Guard is providing rescue operations as well as security. Did it occur to you that the water just stopped pouring over the levy this morning which now gives them a chance to repair pumps, hook up generators etc, The pipeline is already back in operation and the administration has agreed to tap strategic oil supplies if needed to get the refineries back on line. FEMA is assessing options to provide housing once the water is pumped out. I guess you expect to be able to sit on Bourbon St. and sip a Hurricane two days after one of the most destructive storms in history has passed? No one told them that disaster victims who are being fed and sheltered and receiving proper care are less likely to loot? Have you ever been near the housing project off Rampart? This is where many of the Superdome refugees came from. I'm sure there are some fine poor folks there and I'm sure there are some that are stealing to provide food etc. for their families but you can bet your bippy that many of them couldn't wait for the storm to pass so they could take advantage of the opportunity. Ask any cop or citizen in New Orleans and they'll tell you that the housing project is a rats nest of crack addicts and thieves. Even the cops won't go in unless they absolutely have to. I had my car broken into there and it's amazing that someone could shatter a window, climb in and steal two purses in broad daylight within 75 feet of a bunch of people sitting on their porches and when you ask the witnesses the standard answer was "I didn't see nothin' ". I wound up having to buy the purses back (most likely from the guys that stole them) and while sorting the contents we found we were blessed with a crack pipe. |
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 18:06:18 GMT, bb wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:52:05 -0400, "Starbucks" wrote: I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry. So you're saying pointing out the complete ineptness of our government to provide basic food, shelter and safety should be ignored because it makes some politicians look bad? Yeah, screw the needy, let's make sure the white collar criminals don't look bad. bb Don't know what Harry said, but your attitude is completely assinine. Do you think dropping the 82d Airborne Division into flooded New Orleans would be the right thing to do? How many scenes of people *getting* food and water have you seen? If it bleeds, it leads, and if it can be used to reflect badly on the administration, then the major media will go for it. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:30:06 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: No food, no water, and people falling over dead at the Superdome in New Orleans, and the mighty U.S. military can't figure out a way to get there with supplies RIGHT NOW? Is it because our best assets are being wasted in Iraq? Is it because we're stupid? It ain't rocket science. It is three days after the hurricane, and we're not doing any better for those in the most need than the government of Bangladesh might do? It took a long time to get to Homestead after Andrew too. (the other guy was in the White House) It just takes a long time to get these things going. Any major grocery manufacturer could handle this in under 72 hours. Example: Dinty Moore canned beef stew 12 24 oz cans per case. 1400 cases per truck $32,200.00 per truck plus shipping. From order to delivery, barring blizzards: 72 hours anywhere in the lower 48. Other groceries are similar, except for some frozen items. If supplies aren't delivered to HOUSTON that quickly, it's because nobody has tried hard enough. If this is the case, President Nookular should be stuck in the crowd with the hungry so he can live with them until the right thing is done: Let the grocery business handle it, and wire them the funds. |
atl,
I think it is low for Hannity to make those statements. I am glad you agree that Harry is as low as snake **** to do the same thing. wrote in message ups.com... Starbucks wrote: I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry. All I have to say is F*ck You Harry. That's odd, Sean Hannity, the darling of the right wing liars, while whining about NOT making this a political issue, peppered his diatribe with many, many insults pointed at the left, and many, many remarks about how if left wingers were in power, how they'd be inept at getting anything done. |
The current situation would be desperate no matter who is in office. FEMA
is not a political office. "bb" wrote in message ... On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:52:05 -0400, "Starbucks" wrote: I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry. So you're saying pointing out the complete ineptness of our government to provide basic food, shelter and safety should be ignored because it makes some politicians look bad? Yeah, screw the needy, let's make sure the white collar criminals don't look bad. bb |
Harry's a Union thug, errr, Hack, a Northeastern Liberal, and an armchair
theorist. He's about as much of an academian as I am a rocket scientist. wrote in message oups.com... Harry pontificating from the comfort of a northeastern yacht club barstool or from the safe ivory towers of academe is like the blowhard upper crust brits discussing the irish potato famine. Those of us in the real world know something of real world difficulties, whereas Harry is merely a theorist, and a poor one at that. |
wrote in message ... On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:30:06 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: No food, no water, and people falling over dead at the Superdome in New Orleans, and the mighty U.S. military can't figure out a way to get there with supplies RIGHT NOW? Is it because our best assets are being wasted in Iraq? Is it because we're stupid? It ain't rocket science. It is three days after the hurricane, and we're not doing any better for those in the most need than the government of Bangladesh might do? It took a long time to get to Homestead after Andrew too. (the other guy was in the White House) It just takes a long time to get these things going. Typical loony thinking......the army is not a humanitarian organization. |
On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:52:05 -0400, "Starbucks"
wrote: I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry. All I have to say is F*ck You Harry. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... No food, no water, and people falling over dead at the Superdome in New Orleans, and the mighty U.S. military can't figure out a way to get there with supplies RIGHT NOW? Is it because our best assets are being wasted in Iraq? Is it because we're stupid? It ain't rocket science. It is three days after the hurricane, and we're not doing any better for those in the most need than the government of Bangladesh might do? Look at Fox News. The Superdome may not be a beautiful site, but it *is* under control! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:35:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:30:06 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: No food, no water, and people falling over dead at the Superdome in New Orleans, and the mighty U.S. military can't figure out a way to get there with supplies RIGHT NOW? Is it because our best assets are being wasted in Iraq? Is it because we're stupid? It ain't rocket science. It is three days after the hurricane, and we're not doing any better for those in the most need than the government of Bangladesh might do? It took a long time to get to Homestead after Andrew too. (the other guy was in the White House) It just takes a long time to get these things going. Any major grocery manufacturer could handle this in under 72 hours. Example: Dinty Moore canned beef stew 12 24 oz cans per case. 1400 cases per truck $32,200.00 per truck plus shipping. From order to delivery, barring blizzards: 72 hours anywhere in the lower 48. Other groceries are similar, except for some frozen items. If supplies aren't delivered to HOUSTON that quickly, it's because nobody has tried hard enough. If this is the case, President Nookular should be stuck in the crowd with the hungry so he can live with them until the right thing is done: Let the grocery business handle it, and wire them the funds. Your trucks do well in six feet of water? Houston isn't the problem. Have you seen what remains of I-10? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
There are over a dozen (12) police, National Guard, Coast Guard, and Medical
Evac helicopters being used in New Orleans. They briefly stopped evacuating 2 hospitals today when a helicopter came under small arms fire. Don't believe the media- they will have you believing the worst. It IS bad, and has been poorly planned and coordinated by the local authorities, but there are untold thousands of police (the New Orleans police have been pathetic, but they have NO infrastructure, control, or communication), National Guard, Coast Guard, and Red Cross and other volunteers (literally hundreds of private boats were out rescuing people before some were shot at today) who have converged on over 100 miles of obliterated Gulf coastline to help rescue people and provide food and shelter to them. Many news organizations fail to mention that HUNDREDS of smaller US cities were either wiped out or severely affected by this storm. New Orleans, while it is the largest and poorest of them, is only the tip of a VERY large iceberg. "Martin-Paul Broennimann" wrote in message ... Hi, I'm not a US citizen, and I will not criticise your governement on an inside issue. But how should we understand that the copters aren't in there, lifting the people out of central New Orleans? -- Martin-Paul Broennimann architecte et urbaniste SIA/FSU 14, rue du Diorama CH 1204 Genève Switzerland 0041 78 627 29 67 arrêt TPG place du Cirque parking Hôtel des Finances visit our website= www.broennimann.com "Harry Krause" a écrit dans le message de news: ... bb wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:52:05 -0400, "Starbucks" wrote: I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry. So you're saying pointing out the complete ineptness of our government to provide basic food, shelter and safety should be ignored because it makes some politicians look bad? Yeah, screw the needy, let's make sure the white collar criminals don't look bad. bb Smithers is active again, eh? I guess he wore out the sheep. I just saw a bunch of Bush Administration officials on TV patting themselves on the back for their great efforts to date, and the Homeland Security Director saying everything is under control at the SuperDome. I suppose no one told him about the news reports and videos showing people dying inside the Dome for lack of food, water, and medical attention. Most of the emphasis of these Bush officials was on law enforcement, not relief. No one told them that disaster victims who are being fed and sheltered and receiving proper care are less likely to loot? What a crock this Bush Administration is. They ought to be driven out of town. |
Go back to Goose Bumps. You're "talents" are better appreciated there.
wrote: Starbucks wrote: I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry. All I have to say is F*ck You Harry. That's odd, Sean Hannity, the darling of the right wing liars, while whining about NOT making this a political issue, peppered his diatribe with many, many insults pointed at the left, and many, many remarks about how if left wingers were in power, how they'd be inept at getting anything done. |
They're over in Iraq, firing rockets into Iraqi wedding parties. Gee - who owned those big OD choppers I saw on the news tonight hauling load after load of people they had rescued? |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Most of the emphasis of these Bush officials was on law enforcement, not relief. That's because the relief workers cannot safely get into the areas without being shot at with AK-47's. Perhaps you'd like to volunteer to drive a small rescue skiff into those areas? |
"PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:35:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:30:06 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: No food, no water, and people falling over dead at the Superdome in New Orleans, and the mighty U.S. military can't figure out a way to get there with supplies RIGHT NOW? Is it because our best assets are being wasted in Iraq? Is it because we're stupid? It ain't rocket science. It is three days after the hurricane, and we're not doing any better for those in the most need than the government of Bangladesh might do? It took a long time to get to Homestead after Andrew too. (the other guy was in the White House) It just takes a long time to get these things going. Any major grocery manufacturer could handle this in under 72 hours. Example: Dinty Moore canned beef stew 12 24 oz cans per case. 1400 cases per truck $32,200.00 per truck plus shipping. From order to delivery, barring blizzards: 72 hours anywhere in the lower 48. Other groceries are similar, except for some frozen items. If supplies aren't delivered to HOUSTON that quickly, it's because nobody has tried hard enough. If this is the case, President Nookular should be stuck in the crowd with the hungry so he can live with them until the right thing is done: Let the grocery business handle it, and wire them the funds. Your trucks do well in six feet of water? Houston isn't the problem. Have you seen what remains of I-10? Have you seen what happens when the looters, armed with AK-47's, surround one of the rescue vehicles ? What kind of friggin' animal shoots at relief helicopters, national guardsmen, and police officers? |
"Stanley Barthfarkle" wrote in message
. .. There are over a dozen (12) police, National Guard, Coast Guard, and Medical Evac helicopters being used in New Orleans. They briefly stopped evacuating 2 hospitals today when a helicopter came under small arms fire. Here's a grizzly thought: Ku Klux Klan or similar types, taking this opportunity to shoot black people while the cops are helpless? |
"NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:35:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:30:06 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: No food, no water, and people falling over dead at the Superdome in New Orleans, and the mighty U.S. military can't figure out a way to get there with supplies RIGHT NOW? Is it because our best assets are being wasted in Iraq? Is it because we're stupid? It ain't rocket science. It is three days after the hurricane, and we're not doing any better for those in the most need than the government of Bangladesh might do? It took a long time to get to Homestead after Andrew too. (the other guy was in the White House) It just takes a long time to get these things going. Any major grocery manufacturer could handle this in under 72 hours. Example: Dinty Moore canned beef stew 12 24 oz cans per case. 1400 cases per truck $32,200.00 per truck plus shipping. From order to delivery, barring blizzards: 72 hours anywhere in the lower 48. Other groceries are similar, except for some frozen items. If supplies aren't delivered to HOUSTON that quickly, it's because nobody has tried hard enough. If this is the case, President Nookular should be stuck in the crowd with the hungry so he can live with them until the right thing is done: Let the grocery business handle it, and wire them the funds. Your trucks do well in six feet of water? Houston isn't the problem. Have you seen what remains of I-10? Have you seen what happens when the looters, armed with AK-47's, surround one of the rescue vehicles ? What kind of friggin' animal shoots at relief helicopters, national guardsmen, and police officers? I really don't understand why people like that haven't been gunned down without any questions, warnings or conversations. |
"NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:35:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:30:06 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: No food, no water, and people falling over dead at the Superdome in New Orleans, and the mighty U.S. military can't figure out a way to get there with supplies RIGHT NOW? Is it because our best assets are being wasted in Iraq? Is it because we're stupid? It ain't rocket science. It is three days after the hurricane, and we're not doing any better for those in the most need than the government of Bangladesh might do? It took a long time to get to Homestead after Andrew too. (the other guy was in the White House) It just takes a long time to get these things going. Any major grocery manufacturer could handle this in under 72 hours. Example: Dinty Moore canned beef stew 12 24 oz cans per case. 1400 cases per truck $32,200.00 per truck plus shipping. From order to delivery, barring blizzards: 72 hours anywhere in the lower 48. Other groceries are similar, except for some frozen items. If supplies aren't delivered to HOUSTON that quickly, it's because nobody has tried hard enough. If this is the case, President Nookular should be stuck in the crowd with the hungry so he can live with them until the right thing is done: Let the grocery business handle it, and wire them the funds. Your trucks do well in six feet of water? Houston isn't the problem. Have you seen what remains of I-10? Have you seen what happens when the looters, armed with AK-47's, surround one of the rescue vehicles ? What kind of friggin' animal shoots at relief helicopters, national guardsmen, and police officers? Or tries to break into an occupied children's hospital? |
"OlBlueEyes" wrote in message
... Oh, I forgot, the Klan IS a breeding ground for DEMOCRAT politicians. Zzzzzzzzzzzz.................. |
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Stanley Barthfarkle" wrote in message . .. There are over a dozen (12) police, National Guard, Coast Guard, and Medical Evac helicopters being used in New Orleans. They briefly stopped evacuating 2 hospitals today when a helicopter came under small arms fire. Here's a grizzly thought: Ku Klux Klan or similar types, taking this opportunity to shoot black people while the cops are helpless? With the numerical odds against them, I think they'd keep their heads down low. |
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:12:47 +0000, OlBlueEyes wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in : Here's a grizzly thought: Ku Klux Klan or similar types, taking this opportunity to shoot black people while the cops are helpless? Louisiana is a Blue State, so only criminals have guns. Bzzzt, that's two for two. Louisiana voted for Bush, and is a shall issue state. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... bb wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:52:05 -0400, "Starbucks" wrote: I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry. So you're saying pointing out the complete ineptness of our government to provide basic food, shelter and safety should be ignored because it makes some politicians look bad? Yeah, screw the needy, let's make sure the white collar criminals don't look bad. bb At three days after the event (Katrina) we are talking about people without water and food. In Florida, everyone had food and water after the hurricanes, we all keep a supply handy in case of a hurricane. Every season we are told hundreds of times to keep food and water on hand. I've got 40 gallons of diesel fuel and a generator already connected to my home/business. That's enough for 5 days of 100% power for everything except the water heater, clothes drier and Electric stove. At 6 miles inland and 27 feet above sea level I'm safe from the 25 foot storm surges of a cat 5. I expect damage to my building and keep ropes and tarps on had to fix leaks in the roof. The people seaward of me I'd take in on a temp basis until they found permanent housing. Why isn't this being done in Louisiana? Someone needs to say this nationally if only to keep it from being repeated. Your first duty is to be prepared for the safety of yourself and your family. To depend totally on the government or others is to make yourself dependant. Inept government, hmmmm the government you deserve. |
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 13:49:15 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:35:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: wrote in message m... On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:30:06 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: No food, no water, and people falling over dead at the Superdome in New Orleans, and the mighty U.S. military can't figure out a way to get there with supplies RIGHT NOW? Is it because our best assets are being wasted in Iraq? Is it because we're stupid? It ain't rocket science. It is three days after the hurricane, and we're not doing any better for those in the most need than the government of Bangladesh might do? It took a long time to get to Homestead after Andrew too. (the other guy was in the White House) It just takes a long time to get these things going. Any major grocery manufacturer could handle this in under 72 hours. Example: Dinty Moore canned beef stew 12 24 oz cans per case. 1400 cases per truck $32,200.00 per truck plus shipping. From order to delivery, barring blizzards: 72 hours anywhere in the lower 48. Other groceries are similar, except for some frozen items. If supplies aren't delivered to HOUSTON that quickly, it's because nobody has tried hard enough. If this is the case, President Nookular should be stuck in the crowd with the hungry so he can live with them until the right thing is done: Let the grocery business handle it, and wire them the funds. Your trucks do well in six feet of water? Houston isn't the problem. Have you seen what remains of I-10? Have you seen what happens when the looters, armed with AK-47's, surround one of the rescue vehicles ? What kind of friggin' animal shoots at relief helicopters, national guardsmen, and police officers? I really don't understand why people like that haven't been gunned down without any questions, warnings or conversations. Because most of the NO cops have left the job, like the friggin' mayor! Why hasn't the *Louisiana* National Guard been mobilized by the friggin' LA governor? Don't need to hear any Iraq crap either! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 13:45:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "Stanley Barthfarkle" wrote in message ... There are over a dozen (12) police, National Guard, Coast Guard, and Medical Evac helicopters being used in New Orleans. They briefly stopped evacuating 2 hospitals today when a helicopter came under small arms fire. Here's a grizzly thought: Ku Klux Klan or similar types, taking this opportunity to shoot black people while the cops are helpless? Now you sound like Sharpton - Bush is holding back food and protection because the majority of those in need are black. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:48:12 -0400, thunder wrote:
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:12:47 +0000, OlBlueEyes wrote: "Doug Kanter" wrote in : Here's a grizzly thought: Ku Klux Klan or similar types, taking this opportunity to shoot black people while the cops are helpless? Louisiana is a Blue State, so only criminals have guns. Bzzzt, that's two for two. Louisiana voted for Bush, and is a shall issue state. Was New Orleans a Bush city? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 12:32:25 -0400, "Jeff Rigby" wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... bb wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:52:05 -0400, "Starbucks" wrote: I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry. So you're saying pointing out the complete ineptness of our government to provide basic food, shelter and safety should be ignored because it makes some politicians look bad? Yeah, screw the needy, let's make sure the white collar criminals don't look bad. bb At three days after the event (Katrina) we are talking about people without water and food. In Florida, everyone had food and water after the hurricanes, we all keep a supply handy in case of a hurricane. Every season we are told hundreds of times to keep food and water on hand. I've got 40 gallons of diesel fuel and a generator already connected to my home/business. That's enough for 5 days of 100% power for everything except the water heater, clothes drier and Electric stove. At 6 miles inland and 27 feet above sea level I'm safe from the 25 foot storm surges of a cat 5. I expect damage to my building and keep ropes and tarps on had to fix leaks in the roof. The people seaward of me I'd take in on a temp basis until they found permanent housing. Why isn't this being done in Louisiana? Someone needs to say this nationally if only to keep it from being repeated. Your first duty is to be prepared for the safety of yourself and your family. To depend totally on the government or others is to make yourself dependant. Inept government, hmmmm the government you deserve. I honestly believe that even Marion Barry could do better than the mayor of New Orleans. What a joke. There are more stories in the paper about helicopters bringing in sling loads of food getting *shot* at! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jeff Rigby wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... bb wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:52:05 -0400, "Starbucks" wrote: I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry. So you're saying pointing out the complete ineptness of our government to provide basic food, shelter and safety should be ignored because it makes some politicians look bad? Yeah, screw the needy, let's make sure the white collar criminals don't look bad. bb At three days after the event (Katrina) we are talking about people without water and food. In Florida, everyone had food and water after the hurricanes, we all keep a supply handy in case of a hurricane. Every season we are told hundreds of times to keep food and water on hand. I've got 40 gallons of diesel fuel and a generator already connected to my home/business. That's enough for 5 days of 100% power for everything except the water heater, clothes drier and Electric stove. At 6 miles inland and 27 feet above sea level I'm safe from the 25 foot storm surges of a cat 5. I expect damage to my building and keep ropes and tarps on hand to fix leaks in the roof. The people seaward of me I'd take in on a temp basis until they found permanent housing. Why isn't this being done in Louisiana? Someone needs to say this nationally if only to keep it from being repeated. Your first duty is to be prepared for the safety of yourself and your family. To depend totally on the government or others is to make yourself dependant. Inept government, hmmmm the government you deserve. That's wonderful for you. Unlikely many impoverished people are as well-equipped. To not have food and water for 3 days Harry?? Oh, they eat out every night..... Must be rich then cause I can't afford to eat out. For the Hurricane I just buy a couple of cans of Spam, canned chicken, Dintymore beef stew some canned vegatables and fill a couple of old milk bottles. Total cost $30.00 |
"PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 12:32:25 -0400, "Jeff Rigby" wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... bb wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:52:05 -0400, "Starbucks" wrote: I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry. So you're saying pointing out the complete ineptness of our government to provide basic food, shelter and safety should be ignored because it makes some politicians look bad? Yeah, screw the needy, let's make sure the white collar criminals don't look bad. bb At three days after the event (Katrina) we are talking about people without water and food. In Florida, everyone had food and water after the hurricanes, we all keep a supply handy in case of a hurricane. Every season we are told hundreds of times to keep food and water on hand. I've got 40 gallons of diesel fuel and a generator already connected to my home/business. That's enough for 5 days of 100% power for everything except the water heater, clothes drier and Electric stove. At 6 miles inland and 27 feet above sea level I'm safe from the 25 foot storm surges of a cat 5. I expect damage to my building and keep ropes and tarps on had to fix leaks in the roof. The people seaward of me I'd take in on a temp basis until they found permanent housing. Why isn't this being done in Louisiana? Someone needs to say this nationally if only to keep it from being repeated. Your first duty is to be prepared for the safety of yourself and your family. To depend totally on the government or others is to make yourself dependant. Inept government, hmmmm the government you deserve. I honestly believe that even Marion Barry could do better than the mayor of New Orleans. What a joke. There are more stories in the paper about helicopters bringing in sling loads of food getting *shot* at! -- John H To be fair, anyone in Government is constantly being bombarded with people begging for money for good causes. In most cases they are good causes and worthy of the governments money. It's hard to say no to put money into a preparedness fund when you don't KNOW you will ever need it. After the fact everyone is second guessing you so the cowardly politician starts to blame someone else, like they are blaming the Federal government and Bush. |
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 13:21:43 -0400, "Jeff Rigby" wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jeff Rigby wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... bb wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:52:05 -0400, "Starbucks" wrote: I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry. So you're saying pointing out the complete ineptness of our government to provide basic food, shelter and safety should be ignored because it makes some politicians look bad? Yeah, screw the needy, let's make sure the white collar criminals don't look bad. bb At three days after the event (Katrina) we are talking about people without water and food. In Florida, everyone had food and water after the hurricanes, we all keep a supply handy in case of a hurricane. Every season we are told hundreds of times to keep food and water on hand. I've got 40 gallons of diesel fuel and a generator already connected to my home/business. That's enough for 5 days of 100% power for everything except the water heater, clothes drier and Electric stove. At 6 miles inland and 27 feet above sea level I'm safe from the 25 foot storm surges of a cat 5. I expect damage to my building and keep ropes and tarps on hand to fix leaks in the roof. The people seaward of me I'd take in on a temp basis until they found permanent housing. Why isn't this being done in Louisiana? Someone needs to say this nationally if only to keep it from being repeated. Your first duty is to be prepared for the safety of yourself and your family. To depend totally on the government or others is to make yourself dependant. Inept government, hmmmm the government you deserve. That's wonderful for you. Unlikely many impoverished people are as well-equipped. To not have food and water for 3 days Harry?? Oh, they eat out every night..... Must be rich then cause I can't afford to eat out. For the Hurricane I just buy a couple of cans of Spam, canned chicken, Dintymore beef stew some canned vegatables and fill a couple of old milk bottles. Total cost $30.00 Jeff, you're obviously talking about people with some sense. There are a whole potful of people who don't have the sense God gave a goose, but that's Bush's fault. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"PocoLoco" wrote in message
... I really don't understand why people like that haven't been gunned down without any questions, warnings or conversations. Because most of the NO cops have left the job, like the friggin' mayor! Why hasn't the *Louisiana* National Guard been mobilized by the friggin' LA governor? Don't need to hear any Iraq crap either! Actually, you *do* need to hear some Iraq crap, because we're getting stretched pretty thin. But hey..better that they be overseas where they're actually needed, right? |
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 17:40:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "PocoLoco" wrote in message .. . I really don't understand why people like that haven't been gunned down without any questions, warnings or conversations. Because most of the NO cops have left the job, like the friggin' mayor! Why hasn't the *Louisiana* National Guard been mobilized by the friggin' LA governor? Don't need to hear any Iraq crap either! Actually, you *do* need to hear some Iraq crap, because we're getting stretched pretty thin. But hey..better that they be overseas where they're actually needed, right? A **** poor excuse with no basis in fact. We are not hurting for National Guardsmen to send to Louisiana, nor is Louisiana! The governor asked for a "Berlin drop" of food and water. How stupid are the leaders down there? Would 'dropping' a bunch of food and water in the water do some good? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... PocoLoco wrote: On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 13:21:43 -0400, "Jeff Rigby" wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jeff Rigby wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... bb wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 13:52:05 -0400, "Starbucks" wrote: I can not believe that Harry would use the plight of New Orleans for political gain. This is a new low, even for Harry. So you're saying pointing out the complete ineptness of our government to provide basic food, shelter and safety should be ignored because it makes some politicians look bad? Yeah, screw the needy, let's make sure the white collar criminals don't look bad. bb At three days after the event (Katrina) we are talking about people without water and food. In Florida, everyone had food and water after the hurricanes, we all keep a supply handy in case of a hurricane. Every season we are told hundreds of times to keep food and water on hand. I've got 40 gallons of diesel fuel and a generator already connected to my home/business. That's enough for 5 days of 100% power for everything except the water heater, clothes drier and Electric stove. At 6 miles inland and 27 feet above sea level I'm safe from the 25 foot storm surges of a cat 5. I expect damage to my building and keep ropes and tarps on hand to fix leaks in the roof. The people seaward of me I'd take in on a temp basis until they found permanent housing. Why isn't this being done in Louisiana? Someone needs to say this nationally if only to keep it from being repeated. Your first duty is to be prepared for the safety of yourself and your family. To depend totally on the government or others is to make yourself dependant. Inept government, hmmmm the government you deserve. That's wonderful for you. Unlikely many impoverished people are as well-equipped. To not have food and water for 3 days Harry?? Oh, they eat out every night..... Must be rich then cause I can't afford to eat out. For the Hurricane I just buy a couple of cans of Spam, canned chicken, Dintymore beef stew some canned vegatables and fill a couple of old milk bottles. Total cost $30.00 Jeff, you're obviously talking about people with some sense. There are a whole potful of people who don't have the sense God gave a goose, but that's Bush's fault. Another Kooky Kompassionate Konservative. I live in the real world (red state) Harry where HONEST opinions and comments are appreciated by honest and open minded people. It has nothing to do with race but with mindset. I want nothing but the best for my fellow man not a subclass that can be enslaved with low wages because they can't think for themselves. Being politically correct can not help people with their head up their ass. |
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