Did you see the pictures on the news of the looters after the
storm??

Did you see what was missing??? EDUCATED WHITE PEOPLE.
Yes, I did not see any white looters. How big of a piece of **** does
a person have to be to loot others down on their luck?

Freedom! Yes indeed, it seems criminals have all kinds of freedom now.
Look at the ******* that serially killed 11 people. He is now sentenced
to life in prison. Where can I sign up so that not one penny of my money
goes to provide heat or light to a serial killer. I WANT THAT FREEDOM!

Well, let's all go back to sitting on our asses now, and watch as
the looters of the gulf states become tomorrows looters of the golf states.

I bet Darwin comes back before Christ does! If Christ does come back
I think he will condem the western world on general principals.

Oh yes, if your boat has been struck by looters (missing your radar
display, fish finder, vhf radio, etc.) look for your missing items
on Ebay. You will know it's yours because the add says "Does not include
any cables or antenna".

O.K., I'll crawl back under my rock now. You folks know I am not from
here, but the upside is I served 12 years in your Navy so I am at least
patriotic and proud to be here.

Gudmundur wrote:
: Did you see the pictures on the news of the looters after the
: storm??

: Did you see what was missing??? EDUCATED WHITE PEOPLE.
: Yes, I did not see any white looters. How big of a piece of **** does
: a person have to be to loot others down on their luck?

Next, they'll complain because no white people were being arrested.
You know, the old "discrimination" chant.

b.

If people need food and water, I have no problem with them getting it.
In the south, particularly in New Orleans, the poor are mostly black so
obviously they couldnt evacuate so they need food and water. Those who
took color Tvs and microwaves will find its a long time before they can
ever use em.

wrote in message
roups.com...
Gudmundur wrote:
: Did you see the pictures on the news of the looters after the
: storm??

: Did you see what was missing??? EDUCATED WHITE PEOPLE.
: Yes, I did not see any white looters. How big of a piece of **** does
: a person have to be to loot others down on their luck?

Next, they'll complain because no white people were being arrested.
You know, the old "discrimination" chant.

b.

And what does the typical liebral have to say about it............well, it
is disgusting
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manic expression: 1.) Getting necessities, or very near necessities (as in
having something to wipe their asses with). This is more than justified.

2.) Left out in the could by the rich and the government, and now they are
taking what they need and what they want, something that is routinely denied
to them on a regular basis.

If they take food, water, alcohol (a valuable medical asset, by the way),
there is NO PROBLEM with that. If they take toilet paper, there is NO
PROBLEM with that. Any person with half a heart will agree with me on those
points.

However, if they take TV's, computers, shoes and the like, that is NOT
unreasonable, as they are forced through lack of money and lack of other
people's empathy to be subjected to the brutality of the storm, they are
completely within their rights to take this opportunity to help themselves
and their families. That is my opinion, and I believe that anyone with a
sense of real justice will agree with me on those points.

Keep in mind that no one reached out a helping hand to those who could not
leave before the storm, and then those who are subjected to it are expected
to simply "take it", and leave the fortunate people's possessions alone?
Please!

Try not to be judgmental of disaster-survivors while you sit in safety



William Bloode: If they are stealing food and water, do it without shame.
If they are stealing a bit of alcohol, more power too them. After the hell
they have been and are still going through they might need a drink. If they
might take a few things other from the store thats o.k. with me too.

The poor and needy were abandoned to this hell, when those in charge
should have done everything available to get them to safety. So do what it
takes to make ya feel better, as long as it does not physically harm anyone
else.

And for those who don't have a clue. Find a Red Cross, or whatever. I am
quite sure in this mess they have no where near the supplies to fulfill
needs. People should do what it takes to survive.

I know if it was me and i was in that situation of desperation and had to
help my family. I would not have a problem with a bit of violence if thats
what it took to provide.



Thtwudbeme: I seriously doubt one poster on DU personally knows any of the
looters in the places hit by Katrina, or their reasons for looting.

I am sure there are SOME opportunistic people in these places who are
taking big buck stuff...but, I am just as sure that most of the people are
trying to get DINNER.

I hate that this storm has offended so many people's delicate
sensibilities on DU.

Manners don't keep your stomach full, and morals and ethics don't taste
all that great.

Stuff the looting posts; there are people dying right now.

Stephanie



Lex: I'd rather people take what they need in terms of first aid supplies
and food and water, EVEN IF that means that some other people are taking
TVs.

The good outweighs the bad in the long term, imho.



IanDB1: I suppose they could Buy Blue and Loot Red? I don't blame them.
They were abandoned before the storm.

They were abandoned during the storm.

Why should they believe that they won't be abandoned AFTER the storm?

They'd be foolish to assume that they'll be given all the food and water
they need, or that the government and insurance companies will put their
lives back together.

And the bankruptcy courts sure won't help them.



Pacifist Patriot: You know. I really don't care if someone is helping
himself to jeans. I don't condone senseless looting nor do I find it
reasonable. But there is nothing reasonable about what is happening in that
area. We can't expect normal people to behave rationally. I would suspect
the "worst" of the looters take advantage of any possible situation, not
just catastrophes.

As for "looting" grocery stores and drug stores for food, water, diapers,
etc....I hope it helps these poor individuals survive. Last year when I
stocked up for Frances and Jeanne I made sure I had plenty of bottled water,
diapers and canned food. But what if I returned to find those supplies
buried under twenty feet of water and no access to my money? I'd have fed
and cared for my family any way I could and faced the consequences later.

Have mercy and compassion on those less fortunate than us. Yes, even the
people helping themselves to soggy jeans and water-logged CD players. They
are still in hell.



Sparkman: LOOT for survival....not a problem. Stealing to feed children's
no crime. AND you can't carry on raising kids and living if you don't have
STUFF. So count me a looter supporter, put me on the jury, INNOCENT your
honor!!

Gudmundur wrote:
Did you see the pictures on the news of the looters after the
storm??

Did you see what was missing??? EDUCATED WHITE PEOPLE.
Yes, I did not see any white looters. How big of a piece of **** does
a person have to be to loot others down on their luck?

Freedom! Yes indeed, it seems criminals have all kinds of freedom now.
Look at the ******* that serially killed 11 people. He is now sentenced
to life in prison. Where can I sign up so that not one penny of my money
goes to provide heat or light to a serial killer. I WANT THAT FREEDOM!

Well, let's all go back to sitting on our asses now, and watch as
the looters of the gulf states become tomorrows looters of the golf states.

I bet Darwin comes back before Christ does! If Christ does come back
I think he will condem the western world on general principals.

Oh yes, if your boat has been struck by looters (missing your radar
display, fish finder, vhf radio, etc.) look for your missing items
on Ebay. You will know it's yours because the add says "Does not include
any cables or antenna".

What the hell would someone in New Orleans (or other flooded area where
there is no help available to get out) want to take a radar set? Most
of these people are looking for food, water and other basic necesseties
of life. I had the typical initial reaction to the reports of looting.
But it was very initial - it didn't take long to figure out what most
of the looters are really doing.

If I was stranded and had lost everything, I would wade through a
flooded WalMart to get food and water for my wife and kid. Hell, I
would do what I could for my neighbors too. Even if it meant I had to
go to jail later.

If I had managed to get out, I'd consider myself lucky. If my
neighbors or anyone else was stranded in a flooded hell - I don't think
I would blame them for breaking into my house and "looting" my fridge,
freezer and pantry. I wouldn't feel the same way about someone
swimming in to steal my TV, but I don't that's what we're seeing in
most cases.


O.K., I'll crawl back under my rock now. You folks know I am not from
here, but the upside is I served 12 years in your Navy so I am at least
patriotic and proud to be here.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Gudmundur wrote:
: Did you see the pictures on the news of the looters after the
: storm??

: Did you see what was missing??? EDUCATED WHITE PEOPLE.
: Yes, I did not see any white looters. How big of a piece of **** does
: a person have to be to loot others down on their luck?

Next, they'll complain because no white people were being arrested.
You know, the old "discrimination" chant.

b.


CNN has shown video of "white looters," and there have been reports of
"police" looters. Desperate people sometimes have to take drastic actions.

Does your reference to police looters have anything to do with stealing
stereos and televisions? I'll bet the "police looting" that you're
referring to is actually a function of gathering supplies to enable the
emergency response to continue, not so they can perform home or pocket
improvements.

wrote in message
oups.com...
If people need food and water, I have no problem with them getting it.
In the south, particularly in New Orleans, the poor are mostly black so
obviously they couldnt evacuate so they need food and water. Those who
took color Tvs and microwaves will find its a long time before they can
ever use em.


Food and water, medicine and childcare supplies. Reasonable. Televisions
etc.? Scum. What is more frightening is that the scum have walked off with
every imaginable weapon sold in that city. If things don't improve rapidly
for everyone, people are going to start getting killed over a bottle of
water or a loaf of bread. And then when things do come under control, the
scum will continue to terrorize an economically devastated city long after
the water recedes.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bryan wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Gudmundur wrote:
: Did you see the pictures on the news of the looters after the
: storm??

: Did you see what was missing??? EDUCATED WHITE PEOPLE.
: Yes, I did not see any white looters. How big of a piece of **** does
: a person have to be to loot others down on their luck?

Next, they'll complain because no white people were being arrested.
You know, the old "discrimination" chant.

b.

CNN has shown video of "white looters," and there have been reports of
"police" looters. Desperate people sometimes have to take drastic
actions.

Does your reference to police looters have anything to do with stealing
stereos and televisions? I'll bet the "police looting" that you're
referring to is actually a function of gathering supplies to enable the
emergency response to continue, not so they can perform home or pocket
improvements.

You'd lose your bet.

I guess I've lived a sheltered life surrounded by people I trust with my
life and the lives of my family. It's apparent I'm biased because of it.

Curtis CCR wrote:
If I had managed to get out, I'd consider myself lucky. If my
neighbors or anyone else was stranded in a flooded hell - I don't think
I would blame them for breaking into my house and "looting" my fridge,
freezer and pantry. I wouldn't feel the same way about someone
swimming in to steal my TV, but I don't that's what we're seeing in
most cases.


What if you knew that TV would finance their ability to buy food or
safety in the near future? I seriously doubt that these people have the
type of lives that would allow them to take that tv and xbox back home,
plop down on the couch, and enjoy it for very long. They're probably
going to be (or hoping to be) selling it to the next guy in order to
get what they need to survive soon enough.

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 18:26:51 +0000, Bryan wrote:


You'd lose your bet.

I guess I've lived a sheltered life surrounded by people I trust with my
life and the lives of my family. It's apparent I'm biased because of it.

New Orleans has been having quite a few police corruption scandals, of
late.

http://www.hrw.org/reports98/police/uspo92.htm