On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 18:13:27 GMT, "Bryan" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Gudmundur wrote:
: Did you see the pictures on the news of the looters after the
: storm??

: Did you see what was missing??? EDUCATED WHITE PEOPLE.
: Yes, I did not see any white looters. How big of a piece of **** does
: a person have to be to loot others down on their luck?

Next, they'll complain because no white people were being arrested.
You know, the old "discrimination" chant.

b.


CNN has shown video of "white looters," and there have been reports of
"police" looters. Desperate people sometimes have to take drastic actions.

Does your reference to police looters have anything to do with stealing
stereos and televisions? I'll bet the "police looting" that you're
referring to is actually a function of gathering supplies to enable the
emergency response to continue, not so they can perform home or pocket
improvements.


Soon they'll justify the gun stealing as being done for self protection from the
police and National Guard sent in by the Bush administration.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

PocoLoco wrote:
Soon they'll justify the gun stealing as being done for self protection from the
police and National Guard sent in by the Bush administration.

Pretty soon we'll get an announcement from Vice President Cheney,
stating that the insurgency in Louisiana is on it's last legs.

DSK

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 18:17:34 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:


wrote in message
roups.com...
If people need food and water, I have no problem with them getting it.
In the south, particularly in New Orleans, the poor are mostly black so
obviously they couldnt evacuate so they need food and water. Those who
took color Tvs and microwaves will find its a long time before they can
ever use em.


Food and water, medicine and childcare supplies. Reasonable. Televisions
etc.? Scum. What is more frightening is that the scum have walked off with
every imaginable weapon sold in that city. If things don't improve rapidly
for everyone, people are going to start getting killed over a bottle of
water or a loaf of bread. And then when things do come under control, the
scum will continue to terrorize an economically devastated city long after
the water recedes.

I will bet there isn't a box of Oxycotin left in any drugstore in any
flooded section of New Orleans. Same for any other saleable drug. I
imagine there isn't much left of cold medicines that contain the
ingredient used for making meth either. I'll go further and bet that
beer, wine and whiskey stocks were all looted and gone before bread,
veggies and basic foodstuffs, too.

Arcadefreaque wrote:
: Curtis CCR wrote:
: If I had managed to get out, I'd consider myself lucky. If my
: neighbors or anyone else was stranded in a flooded hell - I don't think
: I would blame them for breaking into my house and "looting" my fridge,
: freezer and pantry. I wouldn't feel the same way about someone
: swimming in to steal my TV, but I don't that's what we're seeing in
: most cases.
:

: What if you knew that TV would finance their ability to buy food or
: safety in the near future? I seriously doubt that these people have the
: type of lives that would allow them to take that tv and xbox back home,
: plop down on the couch, and enjoy it for very long. They're probably
: going to be (or hoping to be) selling it to the next guy in order to
: get what they need to survive soon enough.

"Think of the children".
See: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050830/...atrina_looting

For a perfect example.

Here's another: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in808193.shtml

Yup. They're just making sure they have somethin' to drink because the
water supply is a bit contaminated.

b.

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 15:42:00 -0400, Dave Hall wrote:

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 18:17:34 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:


wrote in message
groups.com...
If people need food and water, I have no problem with them getting it.
In the south, particularly in New Orleans, the poor are mostly black so
obviously they couldnt evacuate so they need food and water. Those who
took color Tvs and microwaves will find its a long time before they can
ever use em.


Food and water, medicine and childcare supplies. Reasonable. Televisions
etc.? Scum. What is more frightening is that the scum have walked off with
every imaginable weapon sold in that city. If things don't improve rapidly
for everyone, people are going to start getting killed over a bottle of
water or a loaf of bread. And then when things do come under control, the
scum will continue to terrorize an economically devastated city long after
the water recedes.

I will bet there isn't a box of Oxycotin left in any drugstore in any
flooded section of New Orleans. Same for any other saleable drug. I
imagine there isn't much left of cold medicines that contain the
ingredient used for making meth either. I'll go further and bet that
beer, wine and whiskey stocks were all looted and gone before bread,
veggies and basic foodstuffs, too.

On one of the stations they showed looters in a grocery store filling bags with
various items. They panned across the marked 'liquor' section. Every shelf was
*completely) empty!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Arcadefreaque wrote:
Curtis CCR wrote:
If I had managed to get out, I'd consider myself lucky. If my
neighbors or anyone else was stranded in a flooded hell - I don't think
I would blame them for breaking into my house and "looting" my fridge,
freezer and pantry. I wouldn't feel the same way about someone
swimming in to steal my TV, but I don't that's what we're seeing in
most cases.

What if you knew that TV would finance their ability to buy food or
safety in the near future? I seriously doubt that these people have the
type of lives that would allow them to take that tv and xbox back home,
plop down on the couch, and enjoy it for very long. They're probably
going to be (or hoping to be) selling it to the next guy in order to
get what they need to survive soon enough.

You think there is much of a market for stolen TVs in New Orleans?
You paint an interesting picture, though I doubt it is realistic.

Harry Krause wrote:
Bryan wrote:

CNN has shown video of "white looters," and there have been reports of
"police" looters. Desperate people sometimes have to take drastic actions.

Does your reference to police looters have anything to do with stealing
stereos and televisions? I'll bet the "police looting" that you're
referring to is actually a function of gathering supplies to enable the
emergency response to continue, not so they can perform home or pocket
improvements.

You'd lose your bet.

I think you're right, Harry. But I am started to get disheartened the
more I watch the news. I feel for the people that really need things
and have to resort to looting... in fact I would have a hard time
calling it looting in some cases.

I was really hoping that most of these people were taking what they
needed. I think it's turning out to be that the majority are just
thieves.

Curtis CCR wrote:
..... I feel for the people that really need things
and have to resort to looting...

Anyone with a shred of human decency would.

... in fact I would have a hard time
calling it looting in some cases.


Well, there have been times & places, in some societies, where mothers
were put to death for stealing food for their children.

IMHO the mask has really come off 'compassionate conservatism' this
time, with President Bush promising death to all looters and the
Bush-Cheney cheerleaders high-fiving each others stories'bout how dem
pore ******s is stealin all de likker.

The only thing that's lacking is an announcement from Vice President
Cheney that the insurgency in New Orleans is on it's last legs.



I was really hoping that most of these people were taking what they
needed. I think it's turning out to be that the majority are just
thieves.


I doubt that, remember that only the most sensationalistic... and in
most cases, the most negative... incidents make the news. I'm not
surprised that the gun stores were looted, but there are a lot of
criminals in the mix. That doesn't make every citizen of New Orleans who
is stuck there a criminal who shoots at ambulances.

When people start robbing museums, or ripping down power line faster
than reconstruction crews can put them up, so they can sell the copper
on the black market... *then* you can shake your head and say how bad it is!

Regards
Doug King

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:40:54 -0400, DSK wrote:

Curtis CCR wrote:
..... I feel for the people that really need things
and have to resort to looting...

Anyone with a shred of human decency would.

... in fact I would have a hard time
calling it looting in some cases.


Well, there have been times & places, in some societies, where mothers
were put to death for stealing food for their children.

IMHO the mask has really come off 'compassionate conservatism' this
time, with President Bush promising death to all looters and the
Bush-Cheney cheerleaders high-fiving each others stories'bout how dem
pore ******s is stealin all de likker.

The only thing that's lacking is an announcement from Vice President
Cheney that the insurgency in New Orleans is on it's last legs.



I was really hoping that most of these people were taking what they
needed. I think it's turning out to be that the majority are just
thieves.


I doubt that, remember that only the most sensationalistic... and in
most cases, the most negative... incidents make the news. I'm not
surprised that the gun stores were looted, but there are a lot of
criminals in the mix. That doesn't make every citizen of New Orleans who
is stuck there a criminal who shoots at ambulances.

When people start robbing museums, or ripping down power line faster
than reconstruction crews can put them up, so they can sell the copper
on the black market... *then* you can shake your head and say how bad it is!

Regards
Doug King

You and Harry belong in the same room. Sick.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Around 9/1/2005 12:42 PM, Dave Hall wrote:

I will bet there isn't a box of Oxycotin left in any drugstore in any
flooded section of New Orleans.

I didn't know Limbaugh was in town...


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