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Someone did a nice job restoring that boat. I would figure the motor to be
next to worthless. My guess is that it will need a repower very soon.



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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 20:50:08 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Someone did a nice job restoring that boat. I would figure the motor to be
next to worthless. My guess is that it will need a repower very soon.


I thought I read that the motor was rebuilt.

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No opinion on the boat, but....

.....when buying a boat on Ebay do you have the right to make the purchase
subject to a satisfactory visual inspection, structural and mechanical
survey, sea trial and compression test of the engine(s)?

If not, why would anyone buy a boat via Ebay auction?

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:10:51 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


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No opinion on the boat, but....

....when buying a boat on Ebay do you have the right to make the purchase
subject to a satisfactory visual inspection, structural and mechanical
survey, sea trial and compression test of the engine(s)?

If not, why would anyone buy a boat via Ebay auction?

Well, technically if you are the winning bidder you have entered a
contract to buy the boat. However, if the buyer wants to have it
inspected, the seller doesn't have too much choice but to concede,
afterall, the buyer doesn't HAVE to fork over the cash unless he/she
is satisfied.

FYI, I believe this guy is wanting $7500 for the boat. If the boat
were to check out, would this be a reasonable price?

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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:10:51 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"Charlie Brown" wrote in message
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No opinion on the boat, but....

....when buying a boat on Ebay do you have the right to make the purchase
subject to a satisfactory visual inspection, structural and mechanical
survey, sea trial and compression test of the engine(s)?

If not, why would anyone buy a boat via Ebay auction?

Well, technically if you are the winning bidder you have entered a
contract to buy the boat. However, if the buyer wants to have it
inspected, the seller doesn't have too much choice but to concede,
afterall, the buyer doesn't HAVE to fork over the cash unless he/she
is satisfied.

*Technically* speaking does not carry weight in sales contracts or in the
Court, unless one were to say *technically* you should have got it in
writing.

I was only trying to offer some advice. Charlie. Take it or leave it....it
is your life .;-)

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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:10:51 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"Charlie Brown" wrote in message
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No opinion on the boat, but....

....when buying a boat on Ebay do you have the right to make the purchase
subject to a satisfactory visual inspection, structural and mechanical
survey, sea trial and compression test of the engine(s)?

If not, why would anyone buy a boat via Ebay auction?

Well, technically if you are the winning bidder you have entered a
contract to buy the boat. However, if the buyer wants to have it
inspected, the seller doesn't have too much choice but to concede,
afterall, the buyer doesn't HAVE to fork over the cash unless he/she
is satisfied.

*Technically* speaking does not carry weight in sales contracts or in the
Court, unless one were to say *technically* you should have got it in
writing.

I was only trying to offer some advice. Charlie. Take it or leave
it....it is your life .;-)

The inspection idea is good. The bidding is over, so you can email the
seller, telling him that you would like to work a deal on the boat "subject
to a satisfactory visual inspection, structural and mechanical survey, sea
trial and compression test of the engine" or whatever two adults want to
agree to. I have contacted sellers prior to bidding and we have agreed I
could bid, with the stipulation I could back out of the deal if It didn't
look right. I had one guy say no problem, the other guy wanted me to send
$5,000 within 24 hours of the close of auction and it would be
non-refundable. I chose not to bid on his auction.

Here is my concern: The listing says "The oil injector was removed due to
unreliability so oil is mixed directly in the tank." Just how did he
discover this oil problem. After the engine froze up and you could fry eggs
on the engine cover??

Good luck, it IS a good looking boat...dave

looks like somebody is going feeeeeshin'

Tim

I have a '78 that I've "restored" so I'm pretty familiar with this
particular model.
1. Find out how the transom was "rebuilt". I removed all the "wood" from
the top and poured with a fg/glass/foam/mineral material.
2. I wouldn't worry about the stringers - Wellcraft told me the wood was
more for a form for the fiberglass than structural. (the boat weighs close
to 4000#). The thickness of the sidewalls near the transom is 1", the keel,
at least as thick.
3. The floor can be some concern and, if it's soft, you have a MAJOR
problem.
4. 140hp in good shape is a little weak. It's rated for 200, which I have,
and will push the boat at 45-46 mph. A 140 might hit 40 and cruse at 25-30.
5. Removing the oil injector is not necessarily a problem. I too feel
better that, if it's getting gas, it's getting oil, especially on an older
engine. Mine is a '88 200 Merc, which I also rebuilt (expensive--2 cyl's
sleeved, 2 new pistions, all new rings, gaskets, a couple of berings & seals
cost me abut $1500 just for the parts and boring/sleeving labor).
6. The teak looks great (but it won't stay that way without a lott of
upkeep). If you like it and are prepared to keep it looking good, go for
it.
7. It's too bad that the "restoration" didn't include the proper logo's on
the sides. I just replaced mine with ones identical to the originals.
8. Check the trailer very well for rust, especially the front boxed tube,
axles, springs. My trailer is aluminum but I just replaced the axles,
springs, hubs, etc. with 3500# axles. It had 2000# axles/springs which
were marginal to begin with and 2-3 yrs of salt water did them in.
9. The boat's real nice in the pics but if you want to fish in it, the
painted floor will bet banged up. You will want a "T" top or bimini top (a
few hundred to more than a thousand).

For the size, I really like my boat (same hull but covered bow). It runs
through the 1' chop at any speed, like it wasn't there, will give a good
ride (slowly) in the three footers. The hull is indestructable but with
this open design, I'd not risk it if waves are predicted to be 4' or more.
I have stuck my bow in an occasional 5-6 footer which mostly washed off,
some over the windshield but where an open one like this, might quickly
scoop up more than 100 gal of water. Even a 2000gph bilge pump might not
remove more than 30gal/minute.

In my opinion, it's worth the $7,000+ if it looks as good in person as in
the pics, if you want this type of boat, the engine checks out
(w/compression check), the floor is sound all over, the trailer, axles are
solid, and you get a sea trial.
LD


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