Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
The 9/11 Commission was a joke and it is becoming more and more of a
joke as more is revealed about their "research".

Really?
It seems to me that since most of the more powerful interests in
Washington had to be dragged in, kicking & screaming, in order to
"investigate" at all, they did a great job.

If it were up to the White House or some of the allied heads of
Congress, there would have been NO investigation. It would have been
"Nothing happening here, nothing to see, move along folks."

The fact that those same powerful interests are slinging mud at the
results tells me more about them than about the investigation.

Do you ever wonder why, when there's bad news or potential bad news, the
Karl ROve Character Assassination Team gears up for battle?


When the normative histories of the period we are currently living in
are written, two names will appear as being overwrought and perhaps
down right stupid - Jamie Gorelick and Janet Reno.

Ya think?

DSK

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Gorf" wrote in message
om...

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:38:04 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:



I intend to live long enough to see it happen. I just hope Congressman
Weldon does too.



You sure you want to see where this goes???

Sure. Let the chips fall where they may. Like I said, I'm not so
interested in seeing who to pin the 9/11 blame on. That's history, and
hopefully we'll learn from it. I'm more interested in seeing who has
committed crimes by trying to cover it up...and why.

"It's not the crime. It's the coverup"


I agree 911 commission was involved in cover-ups. It was a bi-partisan
commission. The info about Atta and Clinton was most likely omitted to
accommodate omissions about Bush. Remember one of the main premises for
freedom in the USA is that you are innocent until proven guilty. In that
regard, Atta had done nothing in 2000, so he could not be arrested. Clinton
lawyers were right, otherwise we end up with Nazi rule and the Gestapo
making people disappear in the middle of the night.

If you like conspiracy theories here's one you will love:
Conspiracy: 9/11 - Alleged Cover-ups

The Coincidence Theorist's Guide to 9/11

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat...ost29388 9167

"Gorf" wrote in message
om...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Gorf" wrote in message
om...

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:38:04 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:



I intend to live long enough to see it happen. I just hope
Congressman
Weldon does too.



You sure you want to see where this goes???

Sure. Let the chips fall where they may. Like I said, I'm not so
interested in seeing who to pin the 9/11 blame on. That's history, and
hopefully we'll learn from it. I'm more interested in seeing who has
committed crimes by trying to cover it up...and why.

"It's not the crime. It's the coverup"


I agree 911 commission was involved in cover-ups. It was a bi-partisan
commission. The info about Atta and Clinton was most likely omitted to
accommodate omissions about Bush. Remember one of the main premises for
freedom in the USA is that you are innocent until proven guilty. In that
regard, Atta had done nothing in 2000, so he could not be arrested.
Clinton
lawyers were right, otherwise we end up with Nazi rule and the Gestapo
making people disappear in the middle of the night.

So you prefer the death of 3000 Americans over the violation of the "rights"
of a non-US citizen?

~~~~


http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Cmelak.htm , dedicated to Antigo,
Wisconsin's very own ex-wife-beating, chronically drunk, high-volume
posting troll, William "Bill" Cmelak, a/k/a . A
former truck driver now claiming disability for a variety of physical
and mental ailments, Cmelak lives a lonely life in the woods in a
mobile home where he trolls 24/7, fondles his gun collection, and just
in general has become the town idiot of the little hamlets of Pearson
and Antigo, WI.


Described by a police detective as a "sick ****" because of his online
threats to murder and rape a newsgroup participant, Cmelak now spends
his days posting complete and total nonsense about the numerous people
that he disagrees with.

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Gorf" wrote in message
om...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Gorf" wrote in message
om...

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:38:04 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:



I intend to live long enough to see it happen. I just hope
Congressman
Weldon does too.



You sure you want to see where this goes???

Sure. Let the chips fall where they may. Like I said, I'm not so
interested in seeing who to pin the 9/11 blame on. That's history, and
hopefully we'll learn from it. I'm more interested in seeing who has
committed crimes by trying to cover it up...and why.

"It's not the crime. It's the coverup"


I agree 911 commission was involved in cover-ups. It was a bi-partisan
commission. The info about Atta and Clinton was most likely omitted to
accommodate omissions about Bush. Remember one of the main premises for
freedom in the USA is that you are innocent until proven guilty. In
that
regard, Atta had done nothing in 2000, so he could not be arrested.
Clinton
lawyers were right, otherwise we end up with Nazi rule and the Gestapo
making people disappear in the middle of the night.

So you prefer the death of 3000 Americans over the violation of the
"rights"
of a non-US citizen?


BUSH said it himself "If we let this change the American way of life then
the terrorist have won."

As far as Atta - hindsight is always 20-20 isn't it? NO ONE, not Clinton,
not you, not God himself knew what was going to happen - or it WOULD have
been averted.

Am I willing to give into a police state out of fear of what MIGHT be? Hell
NO!

NOBBY wrote
So you prefer the death of 3000 Americans over the violation of the
"rights" of a non-US citizen?


Gorf wrote:
BUSH said it himself "If we let this change the American way of life then
the terrorist have won."

As far as Atta - hindsight is always 20-20 isn't it? NO ONE, not Clinton,
not you, not God himself knew what was going to happen - or it WOULD have
been averted.

Am I willing to give into a police state out of fear of what MIGHT be? Hell
NO!


First of all, you gotta recognize Nobby for what he is... a socialist
(in fact I think of him as an ouotright Trotskyite or Bolshevist) who is
trying his best to make the imperialist running-dogs look bad, and thus
hasten the arrival of the world worker's state. Da, Comrade Nobby?

That's why NOBBY posts his clownishly fascist statements and his
pre-kindergarten economic theories, to discredit those he appears to be
siding with.

2ndly, statements like "would you prefer to protect the rights of a
non-American" is basically a nicer sounding way of saying "You really
should understand, that torture is good when *we* do it, that it's
morally OK to kill furriners, and you only have the rights that the
gov't lets you have."

I hope this helps with you comprehension of future off-topic posts.

DSK

From: Jose
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Chavez Offers Cheap Gas to Poor Americans
Date: 25 Aug 2005 10:09:50 -0700
Message-ID: om
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

Jose wrote:
~~~~


http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Cmelak.htm , dedicated to Antigo,
Wisconsin's very own ex-wife-beating, chronically drunk, high-volume
posting troll, William "Bill" Cmelak, a/k/a . A
former truck driver now claiming disability for a variety of physical
and mental ailments, Cmelak lives a lonely life in the woods in a
mobile home where he trolls 24/7, fondles his gun collection, and just
in general has become the town idiot of the little hamlets of Pearson
and Antigo, WI.


Described by a police detective as a "sick ****" because of his online
threats to murder and rape a newsgroup participant, Cmelak now spends
his days posting complete and total nonsense about the numerous people
that he disagrees with.


Here with proper citation is evidence defining the sociopath who
fabricates the type of crap above:


Immediately below are sets of message headers each with a
different alias used by john weasely gilmer III via the two
posting hosts:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

Below that is the inclusion of a partial list of the dozens of
aliases he has been known to use.

So, who's the TROLL, gilwad?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

---------------------------

From: PirateJohn
Newsgroups:
alt.obituaries,alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.oj-simpson,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: Hey! Dumb Cmelak!
Date: 23 Aug 2005 19:32:21 -0700
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189


From: Billy's Daddy
Newsgroups:
alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.OJ-simpson
Subject: Junk Motorcycle Still For Sale
Date: 22 Aug 2005 20:54:36 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189

From: "Jose"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Hoodoo wants you to know ...
Date: 13 Aug 2005 07:50:56 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189

From: "Smelly Billy"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: You pal Cmelak/Hoodoo is trolling other newsgroup again ...
Date: 7 Aug 2005 19:48:50 -0700
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189


===============================================
===============================================

From: "PirateJohn"
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Another (dead soldier from Iraq War) family blasts Bush
Date: 17 Aug 2005 14:50:50 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

-----------

From: "Juan"
Newsgroups:
alt.politics.immigration,alt.obituaries,fl.general ,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: The Gaspar/Anderson obsession
Date: 1 Aug 2005 08:25:30 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

God, you trolls and your multiple personalities are so ****ing naive.

----------------------------------------

From: "Billy's Daddy"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: Report Abuse
Date: 17 Aug 2005 10:14:19 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

-------------------------------------------

From: "Guy Good"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Hoodoo wants you to know ...
Date: 12 Aug 2005 14:28:19 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

=========================================
=========================================

Known and verified aliases:











OSPAM


Bill Cmelak loves his Hoodoo

"Bill Cmelak"
"Smelly Billy"













============================================
============================================

The information below is verified data regarding the malicious
malcontent who initiated and perpetuates all this despicable
behavior.

Known and verified aliases:











OSPAM


Bill Cmelak loves his Hoodoo

"Bill Cmelak"
"Smelly Billy"













- - -

From Wed, 29 Dec 2004 23:04:01 EST
From:
To:
Return-Path:
Delivered-To:
Message-ID:
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 23:04:01 EST
Subject: Food for thought

If I post a $500 reward for information leading to your identity,
do you think that anyone will give you up? How about some of the
folks that you have traded CD's with?

Just a thought. And if you want to publicize this otherwise
private email go right ahead. Maybe that will help to get the
ball rolling.

- - -

From: Juan
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Reward for Hoodoo's identification
Date: 2 Jan 2005 03:52:07 -0800
Message-ID: .com

I am offering a $500 reward for the identification of Hoodoo. Don't
want to do anything illegal or immoral here, but it's simply
important
that I get a handle on who he is so that I can get some legal action
going.

- - -

From: Juan
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Poor Juan Gilmer - Usenet Imbecile
Date: 1 Jan 2005 18:53:17 -0800
Message-ID: .com

Tell you guys what. $300 for the first person who can give me a real
world name and address for Hoodoo.

- - -

From: Juan
Newsgroups: alt.fan.oj-simpson
Subject: Fighting truth decay every day - now some facts

", aka, 'guanito'
Date: 2 Jan 2005 03:29:56 -0800
Message-ID: .com

Yes, folks, there is now a reward for the identification of Hoodoo.
Anyone who wants to take a shot at it please let me know.

- - -

From: Juan
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Happy New Year from John Gilmer
Date: 2 Jan 2005 03:27:14 -0800
Message-ID: .com

And, yes, there is now a reward for anyone who can provide
information and identify the Hoodoo troll

- - -

From: Juan
Newsgroups: alt.fan.oj-simpson
Subject: Fighting truth decay every day - now some facts
", aka, 'guanito'
Date: 2 Jan 2005 03:32:14 -0800
Message-ID: .com

And yes folks, as he said there is now a bounty for the
udentification of the troll known as Hoodoo. If you have any ideas
let me know.

- - -

From: "BuccaneerJuan"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.oj-simpson
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:37 AM
Subject: Is Karen Anderson still trolling this newsgroup?

Try this link as to who I am:
http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/AdventureGuide.htm

- - -

Whois: buccaneerpublishing.com

buccaneerpublishing.com = [ 66.218.79.165 ]
Domain Name.......... buccaneerpublishing.com
Creation Date........ 2004-06-08
Registration Date.... 2004-06-08
Expiry Date.......... 2005-06-08
Organisation Name.... Administrator
Organisation Address. 12526 Agatite Rd.
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Jacksonville
Organisation Address. 32258
Organisation Address. FL
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES
Admin Name........... Administrator Buccaneer Press Inc.
Admin Address........ 12526 Agatite Rd.
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Jacksonville
Admin Address........ 32258
Admin Address........ FL
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email..........
Admin Phone.......... 1.9048748633

- - -

From:
http://anon1.coj.net/realestate/Fina...No=158365-0000

Duval County Tax Collector

2004 Real Estate Tax Summary

Property Information
Real Estate No. 158365-0000-7

Name DEBORAH LYNCH
Address 12526 AGATITE RD

Mailing Address for the Property
12526 AGATITE RD
JACKSONVILLE FL 32258 - 5306

Legal Description of Property
28-41 23-4S-27E GS
JULINGTON COUNTRY CLUB ESTATES R/P
LOT 6 BLK 5

Tax Information

Assessed Value 142260 Govt. Tax Value 117260 Exempt Code H
RE Tax Lien Amt. Non Ad Val By Int. Amt. By Pen Amt. Gross Tax
2,199.01 .00 .00 .00 .00 2,199.01

CURRENT YEAR TAX TOTAL AMOUNT DUE IF PAID IN
November December January February March April
2,111.05 2,133.04 2,155.03 2,177.02 2,199.01 2,268.73

Payment Information
Paid Code UNPAID Paid Date Exception Code 000

- - -

Since he brags about his numerous GPS units so often, here
are the coordinates to the house address so he can find it better:

Decimal Degrees Deg:Min:Sec
Lat: 30.142338 30:08:32.417N
Lon: -081.561846 81:33:42.646W

And,a web-address for a map to pinpoint it:
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...12526+Agatite+
Rd+&city=Jacksonville&state=FL

Shorter alternative for that long link:
http://snipurl.com/bpe9

- - -

From the archives at Google
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.obituaries/
[The comments at the bottom of the judgment are by the person who
initially posted the message containing the following information
about this DEADBEAT.]

DEBTOR: GILMER, JOHN
CREDITOR: NORWEST FINANCIAL AMERICA INC
AMOUNT: $ 1,233
NUMBER: B8972P2221
TYPE: OPEN JUDGMENT
ENTERED: 6/11/1998
STATUS: OPEN

So much for all that independently wealthy bull****. Ya' can't
even pick up a $1200 tab.

$1200 ... Since 1998. A judgment for $1200. Ya' ain't nuttin' but
a slug. A deadbeat.

- - -

And then there's the following message he posted. He denies that
he did post it because it didn't originate at AOL which allows
him to hide behind numerous identities but, you know very well
how he lies. With all of the character assassination and other
malicious mayhem he commits, you don't think he could hold
himself back from branching out to other domains and areas of
specific, and sexual, interests, do you?

From: PirateJohn
Newsgroups: alt.sex.stories.gay
Subject: Gay Bikers
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:01:42 -0500

Any Gay Bikers out there?

- - -

http://www.bmwsearch.net/main/digest...-20031399.html

Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:06:14 -0400
From: JGilmer
Subject: BMW: Shoei Syncrotec replacement?

- --PirateJohn--
a/k/a
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
John W. Gilmer
Data Manager
Moffitt Corporation
Jacksonville Beach, FL

- - -

That leads to the following information:

http://www.moffitthvac.com/
Moffitt Corporation
1351 13th Avenue South, Suite 130
Jacksonville Beach, FL 32250
Phone: 904/241-9944
Fax: 904/246-8333

- - -

And, several of the women he's lied about during the nearly two year
period in which he was apparently 'sweetheart scamming' an older
woman of financial security but infirm health. A woman who, by
his own admission, was not good looking but whom he knew inherited
money and enjoyed traveling about the USA with her travel trailer,
and, flights overseas as well. After traveling across the country to
meet him at his urging, he obviously screwed up the date and time of
their meeting because she caught him red-handed, so to speak, with
some bimbo.

http://www.bmwsearch.net/main/digest...-20012002.html
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:46:57 -0600
From:
Subject: BMW: Ride To Savannah VII Starts Tomorrow
Scheduled to attend:

Joey Gilmer Jacksonville, FL
Pirate John Jacksonville, FL

- - -

http://members.aol.com/theshoprag2/aug04/page2.htm
BMWNEF was represented at the Asheville Rally by the following
members:

JOHN GILMER AND DEBORAH

- - -

From: (BuccaneerJuan)
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Date: 02 Jan 2005 03:07:38 GMT
Subject: Life gives you lemons, you make lemonade
Message-ID:

Karen/Hoodoo, I have to thank you. I was just checking some
search engine statistics and was fearing that the problems that you
were causing might negatively affect people's abilities to find my
writing projects.

Naw. You have driven folks to my new website and and they are
checking out my book project, what I have written, downloading
my Keys Guide, etc.

Thanks!

They say that bad publicity is better than no publicity at all,
but with you so ineptly trolling me and posting laughably fraudulant
nonsense about me even folks that I have argued with on other
newsgroups are sympathetic.

Guess that I couldn't have done it without you

- - -

From: Juan
Newsgroups:
alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.obituaries,alt.politics.immigration,al t.mexi
co
Subject: Trolls and their obsessions with Mr. Perfect
Date: 27 Jan 2005 08:56:44 -0800
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189

Anywho, it's getting down to the point where the girlfriend told
me not to worry about her privacy (which had been a concern of mine)
and to give the jackasses both barrels,

- - -

From: Xxxx Xxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx
Newsgroups:
alt.obituaries,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.politics.immigration
Subject: Deborah Lynch was Trolls and their obsessions
with Mr. Perfect
Date: 27 Jan 2005 18:45:01 -0800

In article
. com,
Juan says...
Anywho, it's getting down to the point where the girlfriend
told me not to worry about her privacy

Great! Now you can tell me who she scammed to get put on
probation.

I'll be waiting.

How do you know she is on probation? Site please, Xxxx, if that is
your real name.

Deborah is a real estate broker and works he

http://www.smartpages.com/home/homet...rtymanagement7

She had her license pulled for quite some time and was put on
probation for embezzling a real estate escrow account. Her license
has recently been reinstated.

You can go to www.myfloridalicense.com and do a search for
Deborah Lynch, Jacksonville Florida. There you will see that her
license was involuntary suspended back in 2003. That should give
you a start.

From there you can dig up even more dirt on the hag.

She has a lot skeletons in her closet. Stay tuned. More to come.

- - -

https://www.myfloridalicense.com/licensing/

License Type Name Name Type License
Number/
Rank Status/
Expires City
Real Estate Broker or Sales LYNCH, DEBORAH Primary
BK3010796
Broker Invol Inactive, Active
03/31/2003 JACKSONVILLE
Real Estate Broker or Sales LYNCH, DEBORAH Primary
BK560825
Broker Sales Current, Active
03/31/2005 JACKSONVILLE

- - -

https://www.myfloridalicense.com/LicenseDetail.asp

Licensee Information
Name: LYNCH, DEBORAH (Primary Name)
(DBA Name)
Main Address: 12526 AGATITE ROAD
JACKSONVILLE Florida 32258
County: DUVAL

License Mailing:

LicenseLocation: 3780 KORI RD #13
JACKSONVILLE FL 32257
County: DUVAL

License Information
License Type: Real Estate Broker or Sales
Rank: Broker Sales
License Number: BK560825
Status: Current,Active
Licensure Date: 05/24/1993
Expires: 03/31/2005

- - -

http://www.smartpages.com/home/

Hometown Realty (904) 288-9293
3780 Kori Rd
Jacksonville, FL 32257

- - -

From: XxxXxxx
Newsgroups:
alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.obituaries,alt.politics.immigration,al t.mexi
co
Subject: IMPORTANT! Juan The Wuss
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:59:12 GMT

I do believe that Mary Gilmer in Danville, Kentucky needs to be
contacted. Her son needs HELP before he hurts someone...or himself.
He clearly is a physical threat to ME.



--

I'm smarter, bigger, stronger, and a lot meaner than you are.
You also won't be the first person that I didn't like who I
had to kill. Legally.

-- john wesley gilmer III

PocoLoco wrote:

You should try hard to keep Harry over there, wherever that is!

herr e. kkkrause is like an overflowing septic tank; he spills
his lies and racist homophobic effluent in every newsgroup he
soils by his presence.


From: Harry Krause
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Chavez Offers Cheap Gas to Poor Americans
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 08:45:25 -0400
Message-ID:

Harry Krause wrote:


Bush is an utter, complete failure, a man entirely out of touch with
reality. He's flushing this country down the toilet.

And you're probably sharing the same methamphetamine as your
butt-buddy, john weasely gilmer III, because you're always
talking out your ass... although with you two, it's quite
difficult to tell which end is up.

Here's only a partial list of aliases used by herr e. kkkrause's
identical twin brother:

--------------------------

With the evidence of your dozens of aliases included below, Juan
Valdez is probably you failing to play both sides of a story...
AGAIN.


ROLF!!

Who's ROLF?


Grow up Karen. Grow the hell up.

That older woman really put a whammy on you, huh? I bet you have
a tattoo of her surrounded by the words: "The One That Got Away"!!

Immediately below are sets of message headers each with a
different alias used by john weasely gilmer III via the two
posting hosts:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

Below that is the inclusion of a partial list of the dozens of
aliases he has been known to use.

So, who's the TROLL, gilwad?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

---------------------------

From: PirateJohn
Newsgroups:
alt.obituaries,alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.oj-simpson,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: Hey! Dumb Cmelak!
Date: 23 Aug 2005 19:32:21 -0700
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189


From: Billy's Daddy
Newsgroups:
alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.OJ-simpson
Subject: Junk Motorcycle Still For Sale
Date: 22 Aug 2005 20:54:36 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189

From: "Jose"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Hoodoo wants you to know ...
Date: 13 Aug 2005 07:50:56 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189

From: "Smelly Billy"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: You pal Cmelak/Hoodoo is trolling other newsgroup again ...
Date: 7 Aug 2005 19:48:50 -0700
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189


============================================== =
============================================== =

From: "PirateJohn"
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Another (dead soldier from Iraq War) family blasts Bush
Date: 17 Aug 2005 14:50:50 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

-----------

From: "Juan"
Newsgroups:
alt.politics.immigration,alt.obituaries,fl.gener al,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: The Gaspar/Anderson obsession
Date: 1 Aug 2005 08:25:30 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

God, you trolls and your multiple personalities are so ****ing naive.

----------------------------------------

From: "Billy's Daddy"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: Report Abuse
Date: 17 Aug 2005 10:14:19 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

-------------------------------------------

From: "Guy Good"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Hoodoo wants you to know ...
Date: 12 Aug 2005 14:28:19 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

=========================================
=========================================

Known and verified aliases:














Bill Cmelak loves his Hoodoo

"Bill Cmelak"
"Smelly Billy"

















--

I'm smarter, bigger, stronger, and a lot meaner than you are.
You also won't be the first person that I didn't like who I
had to kill. Legally.

-- john wesley gilmer III

PocoLoco wrote:

You should try hard to keep Harry over there, wherever that is!


Harry Krause wrote:

Yup...newsgroup slime sticks together. You and Hoodoo are the
pair,
Herring, and if Smithers joins in, you can have quite the menage.


Here is some background on *kkkrause* which shows the shallowness
and insincerity of his words. One moment he is
opposed to Americans owning handguns; then he states that gun
laws should be more strict; yet again he wishes to circumvent a
handgun law in his own state of residence, a law that was enacted
to allegedly make guns safer. It seems that *kkkrause* wants
other citizens to comply with tougher gun laws, but, he doesn't
like them applying to himself.

You're nothin' but a hypocrite harry.... harry the hypocrite!

-------------

Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:59:54 -0500
From: Harry Krause
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Neal Knox, firearms rights activist
Message-ID:
NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.49.4.184

....get rid of everyone who has a handgun AND the handguns, and
produce useful clothing.

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:23:57 -0500
From: Harry Krause
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: More good news for the gun ******s
NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.49.4.184

I'm opposed to CCW, and I think guns and their owners should be
registered and licensed, with a license obtainable only after a
background check and a safety course.

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From: Harry Krause
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: ISO "legal" six shooter for Maryland...
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:59:17 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID:
NNTP-Posting-Host: sniper.cs.umd.edu

I'm interested in buying my first handgun (I have a closet full
of shotguns), and what I want is a Ruger New Model Single Six
Hunter, model KNR7H, in stainless.

I want a new in the box pistola.

Problem is, I live in Maryland, and we have a state law that
makes legal purchase of this revolver a no-no, unless you
purchase one that was manufactured several years ago. Revolvers
manufacturer in, I believe, the last two years have to have an
integral lock on them. Ruger has not seen fit to re-engineer this
model to accommodate Maryalnd.

But it is legal, I understand, to buy a brand-new revolver if it
was manufactured prior to the "no lock, no sale" ban. What I
would have to do is find a a dealer either in Maryland or out of
state and arrange a legal sale. The out of state transaction
would be handled through a local holder of an FFL, I suppose.

Question is, how would I find out who has the model revolver I want?

Is there any sort of dealer cooperative where inventory lists are
available for perusal?

Thanks







From: Harry Krause
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Chavez Offers Cheap Gas to Poor Americans
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 08:45:25 -0400
Message-ID:

Harry Krause wrote:

Bush is an utter, complete failure, a man entirely out of touch with
reality. He's flushing this country down the toilet.

And you're probably sharing the same methamphetamine as your
butt-buddy, john weasely gilmer III, because you're always talking
out your ass... although with you two, it's quite difficult to tell
which end is up.

Here's only a partial list of aliases used by herr e. kkkrause's
identical twin brother:

--------------------------

With the evidence of your dozens of aliases included below, Juan
Valdez is probably you failing to play both sides of a story...
AGAIN.

ROLF!!

Who's ROLF?

Grow up Karen. Grow the hell up.

That older woman really put a whammy on you, huh? I bet you have
a tattoo of her surrounded by the words: "The One That Got Away"!!

Immediately below are sets of message headers each with a
different alias used by john weasely gilmer III via the two
posting hosts:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

Below that is the inclusion of a partial list of the dozens of
aliases he has been known to use.

So, who's the TROLL, gilwad?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

---------------------------

From: PirateJohn
Newsgroups:
alt.obituaries,alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.oj-simpson,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett

Subject: Hey! Dumb Cmelak!
Date: 23 Aug 2005 19:32:21 -0700
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189


From: Billy's Daddy
Newsgroups:
alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.OJ-simpson
Subject: Junk Motorcycle Still For Sale
Date: 22 Aug 2005 20:54:36 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189

From: "Jose"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Hoodoo wants you to know ...
Date: 13 Aug 2005 07:50:56 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189

From: "Smelly Billy"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: You pal Cmelak/Hoodoo is trolling other newsgroup again ...
Date: 7 Aug 2005 19:48:50 -0700
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189


===============================================
===============================================

From: "PirateJohn"
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Another (dead soldier from Iraq War) family blasts Bush
Date: 17 Aug 2005 14:50:50 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

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From: "Juan"
Newsgroups:
alt.politics.immigration,alt.obituaries,fl.general ,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: The Gaspar/Anderson obsession
Date: 1 Aug 2005 08:25:30 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

God, you trolls and your multiple personalities are so ****ing naive.

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From: "Billy's Daddy"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: Report Abuse
Date: 17 Aug 2005 10:14:19 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

-------------------------------------------

From: "Guy Good"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Hoodoo wants you to know ...
Date: 12 Aug 2005 14:28:19 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

=========================================
=========================================

Known and verified aliases:











OSPAM


Bill Cmelak loves his Hoodoo

"Bill Cmelak"
"Smelly Billy"














--

I'm smarter, bigger, stronger, and a lot meaner than you are.
You also won't be the first person that I didn't like who I
had to kill. Legally.

-- john wesley gilmer III

PocoLoco wrote:

Harry seems to entice a strange crew over here from his frank
zappa group. Then
he complains about their posts. Perhaps if he stopped some of
his cross-posting
crap that wouldn't happen.

Whoever 'hoodoo' is, he seems to have Harry pegged.

It's not difficult realizing herr e. kkkrause is a pathological
liar. He flip-flops from one side of an issue to another and when
he does stick with one train of thought, it is almost always
illogically invalid. You should have read his ignorant rants
opposing deer hunting and deer hunters. And then there are his
tales about keeping wild raccoons as pets. For someone who claims
he has three university degrees (unearned wallpaper is all they
are), he isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.



From: Harry Krause
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Chavez Offers Cheap Gas to Poor Americans
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 08:45:25 -0400
Message-ID:

Harry Krause wrote:


Bush is an utter, complete failure, a man entirely out of touch with
reality. He's flushing this country down the toilet.

And you're probably sharing the same methamphetamine as your butt-buddy,
john weasely gilmer III, because you're always talking out your ass...
although with you two, it's quite difficult to tell which end is up.

Here's only a partial list of aliases used by herr e. kkkrause's
identical twin brother:

--------------------------

With the evidence of your dozens of aliases included below, Juan
Valdez is probably you failing to play both sides of a story...
AGAIN.


ROLF!!

Who's ROLF?


Grow up Karen. Grow the hell up.

That older woman really put a whammy on you, huh? I bet you have
a tattoo of her surrounded by the words: "The One That Got Away"!!

Immediately below are sets of message headers each with a
different alias used by john weasely gilmer III via the two
posting hosts:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

Below that is the inclusion of a partial list of the dozens of
aliases he has been known to use.

So, who's the TROLL, gilwad?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

---------------------------

From: PirateJohn
Newsgroups:
alt.obituaries,alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.oj-simpson,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: Hey! Dumb Cmelak!
Date: 23 Aug 2005 19:32:21 -0700
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189


From: Billy's Daddy
Newsgroups:
alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.OJ-simpson
Subject: Junk Motorcycle Still For Sale
Date: 22 Aug 2005 20:54:36 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189

From: "Jose"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Hoodoo wants you to know ...
Date: 13 Aug 2005 07:50:56 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189

From: "Smelly Billy"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: You pal Cmelak/Hoodoo is trolling other newsgroup again ...
Date: 7 Aug 2005 19:48:50 -0700
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189


============================================= ==
============================================= ==

From: "PirateJohn"
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Another (dead soldier from Iraq War) family blasts Bush
Date: 17 Aug 2005 14:50:50 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

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From: "Juan"
Newsgroups:
alt.politics.immigration,alt.obituaries,fl.ge neral,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: The Gaspar/Anderson obsession
Date: 1 Aug 2005 08:25:30 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

God, you trolls and your multiple personalities are so ****ing naive.

----------------------------------------

From: "Billy's Daddy"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: Report Abuse
Date: 17 Aug 2005 10:14:19 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

-------------------------------------------

From: "Guy Good"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Hoodoo wants you to know ...
Date: 12 Aug 2005 14:28:19 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

=========================================
=========================================

Known and verified aliases:














Bill Cmelak loves his Hoodoo

"Bill Cmelak"
"Smelly Billy"















--

I'm smarter, bigger, stronger, and a lot meaner than you are.
You also won't be the first person that I didn't like who I
had to kill. Legally. -- john wesley gilmer III