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Jack Smith wrote:
Kevin,
I am curious, with all the good motorcycles available in the US, why did you
buy a Moto Guzzi 'Desmo'?

It was very used and cheap.

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:16:11 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:

I don't think I said Guzzi *didn't* make a 'Desmo' model. I've just never heard
of it, so I asked for some facts to back up a claim. I'm still waiting for the
facts. If you put "moto guzzi" and krause into Google, you'll get over 4000
hits, so I guess they made a 'krause' model also (using Harry's logic!).

One might think an ex-Army Corps of Engineers ossifer who now teaches
math would know how to set up a boolean search in a search engine,
especially if a math-disadvantaged English major can do it.

How about a belt-driven desmo valve train on a Guzzi? Here's one of 289
hits I got by putting together a proper search.

http://members.chello.nl/~wgj.jansen/text/HPL.html

Enough of this nonsense.

I mentioned it earlier. Hans does nice work. But, it's not a Desmo model Guzzi.
It's a one-of that most likely was *not* owned by Kevin. The Nederlands Moto
Guzzi Club is the largest Guzzi club in the world.

The American 'club' is not really a club, but a way for the 'president' to make
money selling a magazine subscription.

Of course, you know all this because you're able to put together a boolean
search in a search engine. Try-- "moto guzzi" desmo--in your search. You'll find
Hans' pictures easily. No engineering experience needed!

What's your point, John? Are you STILL trying to say that Moto Guzzi
didn't make a Desmo model? Are you really saying that?

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How To Be A Good Repubican
1. You have to believe that the nation's current 8 year prosperity

Last 8 years, eh? Finally you admit that we've had prosperity the
entire
time that Bush has been office.

I take it you can't comprehend when this was written? Hint: there are
more clues below....

I realized it was written during Clinton's watch. So why would you post
something that is almost a decade old?

was
due to the work of Ronald Reagan and George Bush, but yesterday's
gasoline prices are all Bill Clinton's fault.

2. You have to believe that those privileged from birth achieve
success
all on their own.

There are a lot of privileged Kennedy's who screwed it up big time by
raping
and murdering. Privilege doesn't breed success. Good child-rearing
breeds
success.

Once again, you've totally missed the point, or has chosen to ignore
it.

Chosen to ignore it.

NOYB's admittedly fueled by ignorance....great...

LOL. Ignoring a basskisser "point" is intelligent...not ignorant.

LOL NOW you're showing your stupidity!! *I* didn't make the "point".

3. You have to be against all government programs, but expect Social
Security checks on time.

Social Security checks are simply a rebate of your own money. Of
course
they should be on time.

But, it's still a government program, and the republicans are against
government programs.

We are. Stop taking the FICA deduction out of my check every two weeks
and
I promise not to whine if my Social Security check doesn't arrive on time
30
years from now.

Nah, you'll just whine about something else, like some democrat getting
a blow job.

Ooooh. Good comeback.

I know.

4. You have to believe that AIDS victims deserve their disease, but
smokers with lung cancer and overweight individuals with heart
disease
don't deserve theirs.

Some people are overweight due to genetics. But, yes, smokers and
over-eaters who are obese deserve their disease. And the vast
majority
of
AIDS victims do to.

What a compassionate person, I'm certainly glad you decided to make
false teeth for the elderly, as opposed to doing dental work that would
require some compassion.

70% of my production is from crown, bridge and implants. 8 % is from
removable prostheses like dentures.

Yeah, uh huh.

Another well thought-out response.

With the mean age of Naple's residents, that would be very hard to
believe. That's better thought out than your petty, childish insults.

5. You have to appreciate the power rush that comes with sporting a
gun.

I don't own a gun. I don't need a gun...even if you came down to try
and
spit in my face.

Oh, don't tell your fellow republicans you don't own a gun, they'll
kick you out.

6. You have to believe...everything Rush Limbaugh says.

Haven't listened to Rush since 1996.

Yeah, sure, I've seen you use his quotes right here.

I've never quoted Rush. Go ahead and look in the archives.

So, Hannity's your
new guy?

Hannity's more palateable, but I don't listen to talk radio and I don't
watch the talking heads on TV. The only time I turn on the TV is to
watch
fishing shows and Ship Shape TV. I get my news from news sources on the
internet.

Is there a point you're trying to make? If so, you've failed.

You said I quoted Rush and Hannity. I don't listen to them, so if there's
any similarity in what any of us say, it's purely coincidental. Or perhaps
they are quoting me. Maybe they're lurkers on rec.boats. There ya go,
Kevin....there's your and Harry's new conspiracy. Smithers is Rush in
disguise.

I'm not Kevin. I can google up where you've attributed stuff to both.

7. You have to believe that the agricultural, restaurant, housing
and
hotel industries can survive without immigrant labor.

No they can't. In fact, Bush favors immigrant labor to work jobs that
others won't work.

False.

True:
" I ask Congress to reform our immigration laws so they reflect our
values
and benefit our economy. I propose a new temporary-worker program to
match
willing foreign workers with willing employers when no Americans can be
found to fill the job. " (Bush 2004 State of the Union Address)

Oh, yeah, like everything Bush has stated in speeches is true??!!!!!!!

Then show me someplace where Bush said that he opposes legalized immigrant
workers working in jobs that Americans won't work. Can't find any sources?
Didn't think so.

Actions speak louder than words.

"We will get Osama binLaden dead or alive".
"Osama isn't a concern, I'm not worried about him". Which of THOSE was
true?

Both. Eventually we'll get Osama dead or alive. Right now, he's not the
primary issue at hand.

Busted!! He said the second part AFTER someone asked him if he was
still going to get Osama dead or alive. He used that statement to get
out of the real answer.

8. You have to believe God hates homosexuality, but loves the
deathpenalty.

I oppose the death penalty...and homosexuality.

You're too narrow minded to understand that homosexuality isn't
something that someone desires. I'll bet just about any gay person
would rather not be that way.

9. You have to believe society is color-blind and growing up black
in
America doesn't diminish your opportunities, but you still won't
vote
for Alan Keyes.

Actually, growing up black or minority actually increases your
opportunities
for scholarship money and admission into top-notch colleges. It's
called
affirmative action.

So, growing up in a slum,

You automatically equate blacks with slums? Interesting.

Where did I say that?

You mentioned blacks and opportunities. We started arguing about the
opportunities which blacks have that whites don't (affirmative action, etc).
Somehow your mind automatically equated blacks with slums. I just find that
interesting.

Affirmative action doesn't give any racial group an upper hand. It
does, however afford some opportunities for the less fortunate, hence
the slum dialogue. If you find it "interesting", it certainly don't
take much to make your mind work hard....

having to support your ailing parents

Only blacks have sick parents?

Where did I say that? If you want to seem credible, you should try
sticking to the facts, instead of trying to put words in people's
mouths.

We were talking about the opportunities for blacks vs. whites. You're the
one who generalized and stereotyped by talking about "slums" and "ailing
parents" and "selling drugs". Blacks don't have a monopoly on any of those
things, so why even mention them in a discussion about the different
opportunites available to blacks vs. whites?

Again, where did I say that only blacks have sick parents?

by
selling drugs because there's no honest work there,

Only blacks sell drugs because they're incapable of working an honest
job?
Your stereotypes are very telling.

Where did I say that? BUT, if you'd like, I can post statistics that
bring that would certainly show that "blacks and minorites" DO make up
the bulk of arrests for drug sales.

Well, then that explains why those blacks may have a harder time taking
advantage of the wonderful opportunities in front of them...'cause they
screw it up by doing something illegal. But what does this have to do with
your argument that blacks don't have the same opportunities as whites?

That paragraph is pure ignorance.

affords you a
better opportunity than growing up in a successful, upper middle class
or higher family????

10. You have to believe that pollution is OK as long as it makes a
profit.

Nobody believes pollution is OK. What our side disagrees with your
side
on
is the accuracy of the Global warming claim, and exactly how much
impact
CO
gases from cars really have on the ozone layer.

Yeah, only about 99.99% of scientists believe and understand the impact
of global warming.

11. You have to believe in prayer in schools, as long as you don't
pray
to Allah or Buddha.

You can pray to whomever you'd like. But prayer should be part of
school
during solemn moments (ie--after 9/11, after the shuttle explosions,
etc)

Why? If my child is raised an atheist, or agnostic, why should he or
she have her education disrupted every day by prayer?

We're a nation whose laws were built on Judeo-Christian values. Not
convinced? Then consider this:

On the Supreme Court building, there is a sculpture entitled "Justic the
Guardian of Liberty". The sculpture is a symbolic representation of
people
representing civilizations from where our laws were derived. On that
sculpture are three prominent figures: Moses, Confucius, and Solon.
Moses
is holding two tablets, believed to represent the tablets on which the 10
Commandments were written. The symbolic message is clear in this
sculptu
much of our laws were derived from the 10 Commandments.

The lower portion of the doors leading to the Supreme Court have two
tablets
on them. On the tablets, you can see the Roman numerals I through V and
VI
through X...once again representing the Ten Commandments.

In the Supreme Court room where the Justices meet, there is a frieze with
several figures on it, one of whom is Moses. Moses is carrying a tablet
again. This time, Commandments VI through X can be seen on the
tablet...with the Commandments written in Hebrew.

Every session of Congress begins with a prayer by a paid preacher . . .
whose salary has been paid by the taxpayer since 1777.

John Jay, one of the framers of the Constitution, was appointed by George
Washington in 1789 to be the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of
the
United States (and later served two terms as governor of New York). He
wrote: "Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers".

And all of this makes it okay in your book? I suppose that in Iraq,
their government bowed to Muslims in just the same way, yet you seem to
think they are less than human.

Deciding to follow the teachings of that evil man Mohammed, and commit
horrible acts in his name is what makes them less than human.

Another ignorant statement.

12. You have to believe Newt Gingrich and Henry Hyde were really
faithful husbands.

Who cares.

That's odd, you seem to think Clinton is evil for just the same thing,
and you righties bring it up in almost every discussion about him!

He's a sleaze, but that's not why Congress impeached him. They did it
because he lied to a Grand Jury.

Then Newt's a sleaze also!

Yep.

13. You have to believe speaking a few Spanish phrases makes you
instantly popular in the barrio.

Chinga te cabron.

See? Point made.

Glad I could help.

14. You have to believe that only your own teenagers are still
virgins.

Republicans were teenagers once. We know better.

15. You have to be against government interference in business,
until
your oil company, corporation or Savings and Loan is about to go
broke
and you beg for a government bail out.

16. You love Jesus and Jesus loves you and, by the way, Jesus shares
your hatred for AIDS victims, homosexuals, and President Clinton.

Jesus hates Clinton? Why? Is he a homosexual?

ZOOM, that went right over your head, didn't it?

Zoom, right back at you.

Hate to disappoint you, but no, I fully understood the statement.

No, you really didn't.

Again, sorry, but yes, I did. YOU didn't.

17. You have to believe government has nothing to do with providing
police protection, national defense, and building roads.

Those are about the only good things government does. They provide
the
infrastructure, and protection against threats...both domestic and
foreign.

Oh, so you DON'T like Bush's policies?

I like the Highway bill that just passed. I like his military buildup
and
other policies. And I feel adequately protected from crime. I love
Bush's
policies.

Really? You totally agree with the 6,900 pork inserts in the bill, huh?
Figures. You wouldn't say anything bad about a BushCo bill if your life
depended on it. Lemming.

As a whole, I like the bill. It's going to send money down my way for
much-needed widening of I-75.

That's not what I asked. Try again. READ slowly....THEN answer...

On 4 Aug 2005 11:34:08 -0700, wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:16:11 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:

I don't think I said Guzzi *didn't* make a 'Desmo' model. I've just never heard
of it, so I asked for some facts to back up a claim. I'm still waiting for the
facts. If you put "moto guzzi" and krause into Google, you'll get over 4000
hits, so I guess they made a 'krause' model also (using Harry's logic!).

One might think an ex-Army Corps of Engineers ossifer who now teaches
math would know how to set up a boolean search in a search engine,
especially if a math-disadvantaged English major can do it.

How about a belt-driven desmo valve train on a Guzzi? Here's one of 289
hits I got by putting together a proper search.

http://members.chello.nl/~wgj.jansen/text/HPL.html

Enough of this nonsense.

I mentioned it earlier. Hans does nice work. But, it's not a Desmo model Guzzi.
It's a one-of that most likely was *not* owned by Kevin. The Nederlands Moto
Guzzi Club is the largest Guzzi club in the world.

The American 'club' is not really a club, but a way for the 'president' to make
money selling a magazine subscription.

Of course, you know all this because you're able to put together a boolean
search in a search engine. Try-- "moto guzzi" desmo--in your search. You'll find
Hans' pictures easily. No engineering experience needed!

What's your point, John? Are you STILL trying to say that Moto Guzzi
didn't make a Desmo model? Are you really saying that?

Well, I was kinda hoping you'd realize you may have made a mistake. I'm really
trying to help you out here. Harry and I have found some pictures which showed a
'desmo' like modification to the valves of a Guzzi engine, but that wasn't
produced as a Guzzi model.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

John H. wrote:
On 4 Aug 2005 11:34:08 -0700, wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:16:11 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:

I don't think I said Guzzi *didn't* make a 'Desmo' model. I've just never heard
of it, so I asked for some facts to back up a claim. I'm still waiting for the
facts. If you put "moto guzzi" and krause into Google, you'll get over 4000
hits, so I guess they made a 'krause' model also (using Harry's logic!).

One might think an ex-Army Corps of Engineers ossifer who now teaches
math would know how to set up a boolean search in a search engine,
especially if a math-disadvantaged English major can do it.

How about a belt-driven desmo valve train on a Guzzi? Here's one of 289
hits I got by putting together a proper search.

http://members.chello.nl/~wgj.jansen/text/HPL.html

Enough of this nonsense.

I mentioned it earlier. Hans does nice work. But, it's not a Desmo model Guzzi.
It's a one-of that most likely was *not* owned by Kevin. The Nederlands Moto
Guzzi Club is the largest Guzzi club in the world.

The American 'club' is not really a club, but a way for the 'president' to make
money selling a magazine subscription.

Of course, you know all this because you're able to put together a boolean
search in a search engine. Try-- "moto guzzi" desmo--in your search. You'll find
Hans' pictures easily. No engineering experience needed!

What's your point, John? Are you STILL trying to say that Moto Guzzi
didn't make a Desmo model? Are you really saying that?

Well, I was kinda hoping you'd realize you may have made a mistake. I'm really
trying to help you out here. Harry and I have found some pictures which showed a
'desmo' like modification to the valves of a Guzzi engine, but that wasn't
produced as a Guzzi model.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

Again, answer the question, are you REALLY trying to say that Guzzi
didn't make a Desmo? One year, and one year only, 1971, same as the
Milli GT.

On 4 Aug 2005 13:43:50 -0700, wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 4 Aug 2005 11:34:08 -0700, wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:16:11 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:

I don't think I said Guzzi *didn't* make a 'Desmo' model. I've just never heard
of it, so I asked for some facts to back up a claim. I'm still waiting for the
facts. If you put "moto guzzi" and krause into Google, you'll get over 4000
hits, so I guess they made a 'krause' model also (using Harry's logic!).

One might think an ex-Army Corps of Engineers ossifer who now teaches
math would know how to set up a boolean search in a search engine,
especially if a math-disadvantaged English major can do it.

How about a belt-driven desmo valve train on a Guzzi? Here's one of 289
hits I got by putting together a proper search.

http://members.chello.nl/~wgj.jansen/text/HPL.html

Enough of this nonsense.

I mentioned it earlier. Hans does nice work. But, it's not a Desmo model Guzzi.
It's a one-of that most likely was *not* owned by Kevin. The Nederlands Moto
Guzzi Club is the largest Guzzi club in the world.

The American 'club' is not really a club, but a way for the 'president' to make
money selling a magazine subscription.

Of course, you know all this because you're able to put together a boolean
search in a search engine. Try-- "moto guzzi" desmo--in your search. You'll find
Hans' pictures easily. No engineering experience needed!

What's your point, John? Are you STILL trying to say that Moto Guzzi
didn't make a Desmo model? Are you really saying that?

Well, I was kinda hoping you'd realize you may have made a mistake. I'm really
trying to help you out here. Harry and I have found some pictures which showed a
'desmo' like modification to the valves of a Guzzi engine, but that wasn't
produced as a Guzzi model.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

Again, answer the question, are you REALLY trying to say that Guzzi
didn't make a Desmo? One year, and one year only, 1971, same as the
Milli GT.

You are correct, partly. I did not say that Guzzi didn't make a Desmo. I said
that I've never heard of it, nor has anyone I've talked to except you and Harry,
nor have I been able to find out anything about it. This tells me that you may
have had a very secretly made Moto Guzzi. Or, you're making up stuff.

The Mille GT was actually first produced in 1987 as a scaled down version of the
1000 SP. They were produced into 1989, which is the year of my Mille GT.

Notice that I'm not laughing at anything you've said.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD