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[email protected] August 3rd 05 06:13 PM

OT How to be a good Republican
 
How To Be A Good Repubican
1. You have to believe that the nation's current 8 year prosperity was
due to the work of Ronald Reagan and George Bush, but yesterday's
gasoline prices are all Bill Clinton's fault.
2. You have to believe that those privileged from birth achieve success
all on their own.

3. You have to be against all government programs, but expect Social
Security checks on time.

4. You have to believe that AIDS victims deserve their disease, but
smokers with lung cancer and overweight individuals with heart disease
don't deserve theirs.

5. You have to appreciate the power rush that comes with sporting a
gun.

6. You have to believe...everything Rush Limbaugh says.

7. You have to believe that the agricultural, restaurant, housing and
hotel industries can survive without immigrant labor.

8. You have to believe God hates homosexuality, but loves the
deathpenalty.

9. You have to believe society is color-blind and growing up black in
America doesn't diminish your opportunities, but you still won't vote
for Alan Keyes.

10. You have to believe that pollution is OK as long as it makes a
profit.

11. You have to believe in prayer in schools, as long as you don't pray
to Allah or Buddha.

12. You have to believe Newt Gingrich and Henry Hyde were really
faithful husbands.

13. You have to believe speaking a few Spanish phrases makes you
instantly popular in the barrio.

14. You have to believe that only your own teenagers are still virgins.

15. You have to be against government interference in business, until
your oil company, corporation or Savings and Loan is about to go broke
and you beg for a government bail out.

16. You love Jesus and Jesus loves you and, by the way, Jesus shares
your hatred for AIDS victims, homosexuals, and President Clinton.

17. You have to believe government has nothing to do with providing
police protection, national defense, and building roads.

18. You have to believe a poor, minority student with a disciplinary
history and failing grades will be admitted into an elite private
school with a $1,000 voucher.


John H. August 3rd 05 10:43 PM

On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700, wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

Jack Smith August 3rd 05 10:50 PM

Harry,
I guess that is why he is not asking you about your Moto Guzzis.



"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...

No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of one. It's
not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were considering buying a
motorcycle. It's a has-been line.







NOYB August 4th 05 12:49 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...
How To Be A Good Repubican
1. You have to believe that the nation's current 8 year prosperity


Last 8 years, eh? Finally you admit that we've had prosperity the entire
time that Bush has been office.


was
due to the work of Ronald Reagan and George Bush, but yesterday's
gasoline prices are all Bill Clinton's fault.



2. You have to believe that those privileged from birth achieve success
all on their own.


There are a lot of privileged Kennedy's who screwed it up big time by raping
and murdering. Privilege doesn't breed success. Good child-rearing breeds
success.




3. You have to be against all government programs, but expect Social
Security checks on time.


Social Security checks are simply a rebate of your own money. Of course
they should be on time.

4. You have to believe that AIDS victims deserve their disease, but
smokers with lung cancer and overweight individuals with heart disease
don't deserve theirs.


Some people are overweight due to genetics. But, yes, smokers and
over-eaters who are obese deserve their disease. And the vast majority of
AIDS victims do to.



5. You have to appreciate the power rush that comes with sporting a
gun.


I don't own a gun. I don't need a gun...even if you came down to try and
spit in my face.




6. You have to believe...everything Rush Limbaugh says.


Haven't listened to Rush since 1996.


7. You have to believe that the agricultural, restaurant, housing and
hotel industries can survive without immigrant labor.


No they can't. In fact, Bush favors immigrant labor to work jobs that
others won't work.


8. You have to believe God hates homosexuality, but loves the
deathpenalty.


I oppose the death penalty...and homosexuality.


9. You have to believe society is color-blind and growing up black in
America doesn't diminish your opportunities, but you still won't vote
for Alan Keyes.


Actually, growing up black or minority actually increases your opportunities
for scholarship money and admission into top-notch colleges. It's called
affirmative action.


10. You have to believe that pollution is OK as long as it makes a
profit.


Nobody believes pollution is OK. What our side disagrees with your side on
is the accuracy of the Global warming claim, and exactly how much impact CO
gases from cars really have on the ozone layer.

11. You have to believe in prayer in schools, as long as you don't pray
to Allah or Buddha.


You can pray to whomever you'd like. But prayer should be part of school
during solemn moments (ie--after 9/11, after the shuttle explosions, etc)

12. You have to believe Newt Gingrich and Henry Hyde were really
faithful husbands.


Who cares.


13. You have to believe speaking a few Spanish phrases makes you
instantly popular in the barrio.


Chinga te cabron.



14. You have to believe that only your own teenagers are still virgins.


Republicans were teenagers once. We know better.


15. You have to be against government interference in business, until
your oil company, corporation or Savings and Loan is about to go broke
and you beg for a government bail out.

16. You love Jesus and Jesus loves you and, by the way, Jesus shares
your hatred for AIDS victims, homosexuals, and President Clinton.


Jesus hates Clinton? Why? Is he a homosexual?


17. You have to believe government has nothing to do with providing
police protection, national defense, and building roads.


Those are about the only good things government does. They provide the
infrastructure, and protection against threats...both domestic and foreign.


18. You have to believe a poor, minority student with a disciplinary
history and failing grades will be admitted into an elite private
school with a $1,000 voucher.


Even if he's rich and white with a disciplinary history and failing grades,
he doesn't belong in an elite private school.



Jack Smith August 4th 05 12:52 AM

I want to know who the hell would vote for Alan Keyes. I know it won't be
the blacks, yellow's, reds, whites, conservative or liberals. ; )


"NOYB" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
How To Be A Good Repubican
1. You have to believe that the nation's current 8 year prosperity


Last 8 years, eh? Finally you admit that we've had prosperity the entire
time that Bush has been office.


was
due to the work of Ronald Reagan and George Bush, but yesterday's
gasoline prices are all Bill Clinton's fault.



2. You have to believe that those privileged from birth achieve success
all on their own.


There are a lot of privileged Kennedy's who screwed it up big time by
raping and murdering. Privilege doesn't breed success. Good
child-rearing breeds success.




3. You have to be against all government programs, but expect Social
Security checks on time.


Social Security checks are simply a rebate of your own money. Of course
they should be on time.

4. You have to believe that AIDS victims deserve their disease, but
smokers with lung cancer and overweight individuals with heart disease
don't deserve theirs.


Some people are overweight due to genetics. But, yes, smokers and
over-eaters who are obese deserve their disease. And the vast majority of
AIDS victims do to.



5. You have to appreciate the power rush that comes with sporting a
gun.


I don't own a gun. I don't need a gun...even if you came down to try and
spit in my face.




6. You have to believe...everything Rush Limbaugh says.


Haven't listened to Rush since 1996.


7. You have to believe that the agricultural, restaurant, housing and
hotel industries can survive without immigrant labor.


No they can't. In fact, Bush favors immigrant labor to work jobs that
others won't work.


8. You have to believe God hates homosexuality, but loves the
deathpenalty.


I oppose the death penalty...and homosexuality.


9. You have to believe society is color-blind and growing up black in
America doesn't diminish your opportunities, but you still won't vote
for Alan Keyes.


Actually, growing up black or minority actually increases your
opportunities for scholarship money and admission into top-notch colleges.
It's called affirmative action.


10. You have to believe that pollution is OK as long as it makes a
profit.


Nobody believes pollution is OK. What our side disagrees with your side
on is the accuracy of the Global warming claim, and exactly how much
impact CO gases from cars really have on the ozone layer.

11. You have to believe in prayer in schools, as long as you don't pray
to Allah or Buddha.


You can pray to whomever you'd like. But prayer should be part of school
during solemn moments (ie--after 9/11, after the shuttle explosions, etc)

12. You have to believe Newt Gingrich and Henry Hyde were really
faithful husbands.


Who cares.


13. You have to believe speaking a few Spanish phrases makes you
instantly popular in the barrio.


Chinga te cabron.



14. You have to believe that only your own teenagers are still virgins.


Republicans were teenagers once. We know better.


15. You have to be against government interference in business, until
your oil company, corporation or Savings and Loan is about to go broke
and you beg for a government bail out.

16. You love Jesus and Jesus loves you and, by the way, Jesus shares
your hatred for AIDS victims, homosexuals, and President Clinton.


Jesus hates Clinton? Why? Is he a homosexual?


17. You have to believe government has nothing to do with providing
police protection, national defense, and building roads.


Those are about the only good things government does. They provide the
infrastructure, and protection against threats...both domestic and
foreign.


18. You have to believe a poor, minority student with a disciplinary
history and failing grades will be admitted into an elite private
school with a $1,000 voucher.


Even if he's rich and white with a disciplinary history and failing
grades, he doesn't belong in an elite private school.




NOYB August 4th 05 01:01 AM


"Jack Smith" JohnSmithers@hotmailcom wrote in message
...
I want to know who the hell would vote for Alan Keyes. I know it won't be
the blacks, yellow's, reds, whites, conservative or liberals. ; )


He certainly provided some interesting and entertaining debates with Obama.




John H. August 4th 05 03:24 AM

On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:46:00 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700, wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!




No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of one.
It's not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were considering
buying a motorcycle. It's a has-been line.



Harry, it was your buddy doing the bragging about owning a Moto Guzzi. Why now
are you trashing his taste in motorcycles?

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

*JimH* August 4th 05 04:08 AM

Why is Krause being so protective of Kevin? Does he see himself in him?


"Jack Smith" JohnSmithers@hotmailcom wrote in message
...
Harry,
I guess that is why he is not asking you about your Moto Guzzis.



"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...

No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of one. It's
not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were considering buying a
motorcycle. It's a has-been line.









Jack Smith August 4th 05 04:51 AM

Alan Keyes reminds me of a conservative democrat. ; )



"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"Jack Smith" JohnSmithers@hotmailcom wrote in message
...
I want to know who the hell would vote for Alan Keyes. I know it won't be
the blacks, yellow's, reds, whites, conservative or liberals. ; )


He certainly provided some interesting and entertaining debates with
Obama.






Jack Smith August 4th 05 04:53 AM

JimH,
They are two peas in a pod. Both failures in life, but live on hell of a
successful life in UseNet. Next, I expect them both to start bragging on
the size of their Johnsons. ; )

Of course they are Ivy League Johnsons.


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...
Why is Krause being so protective of Kevin? Does he see himself in him?


"Jack Smith" JohnSmithers@hotmailcom wrote in message
...
Harry,
I guess that is why he is not asking you about your Moto Guzzis.



"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...

No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of one.
It's not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were considering
buying a motorcycle. It's a has-been line.











John H. August 4th 05 12:45 PM

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 06:33:48 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:46:00 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700, wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!


No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of one.
It's not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were considering
buying a motorcycle. It's a has-been line.



Harry, it was your buddy doing the bragging about owning a Moto Guzzi. Why now
are you trashing his taste in motorcycles?



Every so often, John, I feel as if you are a better class of slime than
Hertvik, Smithers, Fritz, et al. I don't know why I feel that way about
you, because you always disappoint and show yourself to be the same as
they are. I guess it is my humanity, and the fact that I am a hopeful
person.

Hey, if you want to behave the same as they do, no one is stopping you.



Harry, who put you in position to judge anyone?

You engage in the worst of the behaviors you criticize!

You are doing a nice thing by coming to Kevin's aid. He lied about something,
got caught, and can use a 'friend'. You are familiar with his position.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

[email protected] August 4th 05 12:57 PM


HarryKrause wrote:
John H. wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700, wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!




No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of one.
It's not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were considering
buying a motorcycle. It's a has-been line.


Now, that's true, it WAS a piece of crap!


[email protected] August 4th 05 12:58 PM


John H. wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700, wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD


I'm not Kevin


[email protected] August 4th 05 01:12 PM


NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
How To Be A Good Repubican
1. You have to believe that the nation's current 8 year prosperity


Last 8 years, eh? Finally you admit that we've had prosperity the entire
time that Bush has been office.


I take it you can't comprehend when this was written? Hint: there are
more clues below....


was
due to the work of Ronald Reagan and George Bush, but yesterday's
gasoline prices are all Bill Clinton's fault.



2. You have to believe that those privileged from birth achieve success
all on their own.


There are a lot of privileged Kennedy's who screwed it up big time by raping
and murdering. Privilege doesn't breed success. Good child-rearing breeds
success.


Once again, you've totally missed the point, or has chosen to ignore
it.




3. You have to be against all government programs, but expect Social
Security checks on time.


Social Security checks are simply a rebate of your own money. Of course
they should be on time.


But, it's still a government program, and the republicans are against
government programs.

4. You have to believe that AIDS victims deserve their disease, but
smokers with lung cancer and overweight individuals with heart disease
don't deserve theirs.


Some people are overweight due to genetics. But, yes, smokers and
over-eaters who are obese deserve their disease. And the vast majority of
AIDS victims do to.


What a compassionate person, I'm certainly glad you decided to make
false teeth for the elderly, as opposed to doing dental work that would
require some compassion.



5. You have to appreciate the power rush that comes with sporting a
gun.


I don't own a gun. I don't need a gun...even if you came down to try and
spit in my face.


Oh, don't tell your fellow republicans you don't own a gun, they'll
kick you out.




6. You have to believe...everything Rush Limbaugh says.


Haven't listened to Rush since 1996.


Yeah, sure, I've seen you use his quotes right here. So, Hannity's your
new guy?


7. You have to believe that the agricultural, restaurant, housing and
hotel industries can survive without immigrant labor.


No they can't. In fact, Bush favors immigrant labor to work jobs that
others won't work.


False.


8. You have to believe God hates homosexuality, but loves the
deathpenalty.


I oppose the death penalty...and homosexuality.


You're too narrow minded to understand that homosexuality isn't
something that someone desires. I'll bet just about any gay person
would rather not be that way.


9. You have to believe society is color-blind and growing up black in
America doesn't diminish your opportunities, but you still won't vote
for Alan Keyes.


Actually, growing up black or minority actually increases your opportunities
for scholarship money and admission into top-notch colleges. It's called
affirmative action.


So, growing up in a slum, having to support your ailing parents by
selling drugs because there's no honest work there, affords you a
better opportunity than growing up in a successful, upper middle class
or higher family????


10. You have to believe that pollution is OK as long as it makes a
profit.


Nobody believes pollution is OK. What our side disagrees with your side on
is the accuracy of the Global warming claim, and exactly how much impact CO
gases from cars really have on the ozone layer.


Yeah, only about 99.99% of scientists believe and understand the impact
of global warming.

11. You have to believe in prayer in schools, as long as you don't pray
to Allah or Buddha.


You can pray to whomever you'd like. But prayer should be part of school
during solemn moments (ie--after 9/11, after the shuttle explosions, etc)


Why? If my child is raised an atheist, or agnostic, why should he or
she have her education disrupted every day by prayer?

12. You have to believe Newt Gingrich and Henry Hyde were really
faithful husbands.


Who cares.


That's odd, you seem to think Clinton is evil for just the same thing,
and you righties bring it up in almost every discussion about him!


13. You have to believe speaking a few Spanish phrases makes you
instantly popular in the barrio.


Chinga te cabron.


See? Point made.



14. You have to believe that only your own teenagers are still virgins.


Republicans were teenagers once. We know better.


15. You have to be against government interference in business, until
your oil company, corporation or Savings and Loan is about to go broke
and you beg for a government bail out.

16. You love Jesus and Jesus loves you and, by the way, Jesus shares
your hatred for AIDS victims, homosexuals, and President Clinton.


Jesus hates Clinton? Why? Is he a homosexual?


ZOOM, that went right over your head, didn't it?


17. You have to believe government has nothing to do with providing
police protection, national defense, and building roads.


Those are about the only good things government does. They provide the
infrastructure, and protection against threats...both domestic and foreign.


Oh, so you DON'T like Bush's policies?


18. You have to believe a poor, minority student with a disciplinary
history and failing grades will be admitted into an elite private
school with a $1,000 voucher.


Even if he's rich and white with a disciplinary history and failing grades,
he doesn't belong in an elite private school.


You COMPLETELY missed the point there!


[email protected] August 4th 05 01:14 PM


John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:46:00 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700, wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!




No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of one.
It's not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were considering
buying a motorcycle. It's a has-been line.



Harry, it was your buddy doing the bragging about owning a Moto Guzzi. Why now
are you trashing his taste in motorcycles?

--

First, idiot, I didn't BRAG about owning a Guzzi. Simply stated I owned
one once. And it WAS a piece of crap.


[email protected] August 4th 05 01:15 PM


*JimH* wrote:
Why is Krause being so protective of Kevin? Does he see himself in him?

Awe, how cute, Fritz left JimH for NOYB, now JimH has another person to
insert his nose into his anus......Smithers!!!!


*JimH* August 4th 05 01:20 PM


wrote in message
ups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
Why is Krause being so protective of Kevin? Does he see himself in him?

Awe, how cute, Fritz left JimH for NOYB, now JimH has another person to
insert his nose into his anus......Smithers!!!!


Kevin, your insults and name calling with ever post you make here is getting
old, as is your apparent fascination with one's anus. Can you try to act
your age for a change?



John H. August 4th 05 02:25 PM

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 07:49:43 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 06:33:48 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:46:00 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700, wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!

No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of one.
It's not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were considering
buying a motorcycle. It's a has-been line.



Harry, it was your buddy doing the bragging about owning a Moto Guzzi. Why now
are you trashing his taste in motorcycles?


Every so often, John, I feel as if you are a better class of slime than
Hertvik, Smithers, Fritz, et al. I don't know why I feel that way about
you, because you always disappoint and show yourself to be the same as
they are. I guess it is my humanity, and the fact that I am a hopeful
person.

Hey, if you want to behave the same as they do, no one is stopping you.



Harry, who put you in position to judge anyone?

You engage in the worst of the behaviors you criticize!

You are doing a nice thing by coming to Kevin's aid. He lied about something,
got caught, and can use a 'friend'. You are familiar with his position.


I am not coming to anyone's aid. I just wonder sometimes why you want to
behave in the same despicable fashion as Hertvik, Smithers and Fritz.


Do you mean behavior such as yours? I don't behave like you. I do find it
humorous that when you and/or Kevin are caught, you both quickly change the
subject or just stop posting in the thread.

Hee, hee!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

*JimH* August 4th 05 02:31 PM


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 07:49:43 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 06:33:48 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:46:00 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700, wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!

No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are
questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of one.
It's not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were considering
buying a motorcycle. It's a has-been line.



Harry, it was your buddy doing the bragging about owning a Moto Guzzi.
Why now
are you trashing his taste in motorcycles?


Every so often, John, I feel as if you are a better class of slime than
Hertvik, Smithers, Fritz, et al. I don't know why I feel that way about
you, because you always disappoint and show yourself to be the same as
they are. I guess it is my humanity, and the fact that I am a hopeful
person.

Hey, if you want to behave the same as they do, no one is stopping you.


Harry, who put you in position to judge anyone?

You engage in the worst of the behaviors you criticize!

You are doing a nice thing by coming to Kevin's aid. He lied about
something,
got caught, and can use a 'friend'. You are familiar with his position.


I am not coming to anyone's aid. I just wonder sometimes why you want to
behave in the same despicable fashion as Hertvik, Smithers and Fritz.


Do you mean behavior such as yours? I don't behave like you. I do find it
humorous that when you and/or Kevin are caught, you both quickly change
the
subject or just stop posting in the thread.

Hee, hee!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD



I will match my behavior here against Harry Krause's behavior here any day
of the week.



John H. August 4th 05 02:53 PM

On 4 Aug 2005 04:57:41 -0700, wrote:


HarryKrause wrote:
John H. wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700,
wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!




No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of one.
It's not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were considering
buying a motorcycle. It's a has-been line.


Now, that's true, it WAS a piece of crap!


Especially the 'Desmo' version!

You and Harry ought to get your 'stories' straight *before* you post them.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

John H. August 4th 05 02:55 PM

On 4 Aug 2005 05:14:09 -0700, wrote:


John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:46:00 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700,
wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!



No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of one.
It's not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were considering
buying a motorcycle. It's a has-been line.



Harry, it was your buddy doing the bragging about owning a Moto Guzzi. Why now
are you trashing his taste in motorcycles?

--

First, idiot, I didn't BRAG about owning a Guzzi. Simply stated I owned
one once. And it WAS a piece of crap.


Yeah, I hear the "Desmo" version left a lot to be desired. Be careful, if it was
a real 'Desmo', then it was a Ducati. Harry thinks Duc's rule. Don't be stepping
on his toes about your piece of crap Ducati!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

John H. August 4th 05 02:56 PM

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 09:27:10 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:

Do you mean behavior such as yours? I don't behave like you. I do find it
humorous that when you and/or Kevin are caught, you both quickly change the
subject or just stop posting in the thread.

Hee, hee!


I get it...you've entered your drooling period.


QED!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

[email protected] August 4th 05 03:00 PM


John H. wrote:
On 4 Aug 2005 05:14:09 -0700, wrote:


John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:46:00 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700,
wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!



No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of one.
It's not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were considering
buying a motorcycle. It's a has-been line.



Harry, it was your buddy doing the bragging about owning a Moto Guzzi. Why now
are you trashing his taste in motorcycles?

--

First, idiot, I didn't BRAG about owning a Guzzi. Simply stated I owned
one once. And it WAS a piece of crap.


Yeah, I hear the "Desmo" version left a lot to be desired. Be careful, if it was
a real 'Desmo', then it was a Ducati. Harry thinks Duc's rule. Don't be stepping
on his toes about your piece of crap Ducati!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD


Sorry, John, but you are apparently out of your league here, if you
don't think that Moto Guzzi made a Desmo, before Ducati. WAY out,
apparently.


John H. August 4th 05 03:15 PM

On 4 Aug 2005 07:00:20 -0700, wrote:


John H. wrote:
On 4 Aug 2005 05:14:09 -0700,
wrote:


John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:46:00 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700,
wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!



No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of one.
It's not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were considering
buying a motorcycle. It's a has-been line.



Harry, it was your buddy doing the bragging about owning a Moto Guzzi. Why now
are you trashing his taste in motorcycles?

--
First, idiot, I didn't BRAG about owning a Guzzi. Simply stated I owned
one once. And it WAS a piece of crap.


Yeah, I hear the "Desmo" version left a lot to be desired. Be careful, if it was
a real 'Desmo', then it was a Ducati. Harry thinks Duc's rule. Don't be stepping
on his toes about your piece of crap Ducati!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD


Sorry, John, but you are apparently out of your league here, if you
don't think that Moto Guzzi made a Desmo, before Ducati. WAY out,
apparently.


Well, what year was your Moto Guzzi 'Desmo'? I'd love to learn more about it!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

John H. August 4th 05 03:19 PM

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 10:14:08 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

wrote:
John H. wrote:
On 4 Aug 2005 05:14:09 -0700, wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:46:00 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700,
wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!


No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of one.
It's not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were considering
buying a motorcycle. It's a has-been line.



Harry, it was your buddy doing the bragging about owning a Moto Guzzi. Why now
are you trashing his taste in motorcycles?

--
First, idiot, I didn't BRAG about owning a Guzzi. Simply stated I owned
one once. And it WAS a piece of crap.
Yeah, I hear the "Desmo" version left a lot to be desired. Be careful, if it was
a real 'Desmo', then it was a Ducati. Harry thinks Duc's rule. Don't be stepping
on his toes about your piece of crap Ducati!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD


Sorry, John, but you are apparently out of your league here, if you
don't think that Moto Guzzi made a Desmo, before Ducati. WAY out,
apparently.




If you know how to use a search engine, you can enter "moto guzzi" and
"desmo" and get hits that verify the existence of Moto Guzzis with desmo
valves. You'll even find photos of Moto Guzzi engines so equipped.


Oh, you perhaps found a Moto Guzzi engine that had been modified by some
individual. The fact that you find many sites with both Ducati and Moto Guzzi
together does not mean that Guzzi ever produced a "Desmo". But, I'm willing to
learn about this model.

Please show me a 'Desmo' model Moto Guzzi.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

Jack Smith August 4th 05 03:24 PM

Kevin,
I am curious, with all the good motorcycles available in the US, why did you
buy a Moto Guzzi 'Desmo'?


"John H." wrote in message
...
On 4 Aug 2005 07:00:20 -0700, wrote:


John H. wrote:
On 4 Aug 2005 05:14:09 -0700,
wrote:


John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:46:00 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700,
wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!



No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are
questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of one.
It's not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were
considering
buying a motorcycle. It's a has-been line.



Harry, it was your buddy doing the bragging about owning a Moto
Guzzi. Why now
are you trashing his taste in motorcycles?

--
First, idiot, I didn't BRAG about owning a Guzzi. Simply stated I owned
one once. And it WAS a piece of crap.

Yeah, I hear the "Desmo" version left a lot to be desired. Be careful,
if it was
a real 'Desmo', then it was a Ducati. Harry thinks Duc's rule. Don't be
stepping
on his toes about your piece of crap Ducati!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD


Sorry, John, but you are apparently out of your league here, if you
don't think that Moto Guzzi made a Desmo, before Ducati. WAY out,
apparently.


Well, what year was your Moto Guzzi 'Desmo'? I'd love to learn more about
it!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD




Jack Smith August 4th 05 03:33 PM

PS:

JohnH,
When Kevin made up his story, I think he wanted to say he owned a Ducati.
My guess is Kevin drove his Moto Guzzi 'Desmo' around the U of Penn campus.




"Jack Smith" JohnSmithers@hotmailcom wrote in message news:...
Kevin,
I am curious, with all the good motorcycles available in the US, why did
you buy a Moto Guzzi 'Desmo'?


"John H." wrote in message
...
On 4 Aug 2005 07:00:20 -0700, wrote:


John H. wrote:
On 4 Aug 2005 05:14:09 -0700,
wrote:


John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:46:00 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700,
wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!



No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are
questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of
one.
It's not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were
considering
buying a motorcycle. It's a has-been line.



Harry, it was your buddy doing the bragging about owning a Moto
Guzzi. Why now
are you trashing his taste in motorcycles?

--
First, idiot, I didn't BRAG about owning a Guzzi. Simply stated I
owned
one once. And it WAS a piece of crap.

Yeah, I hear the "Desmo" version left a lot to be desired. Be careful,
if it was
a real 'Desmo', then it was a Ducati. Harry thinks Duc's rule. Don't be
stepping
on his toes about your piece of crap Ducati!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

Sorry, John, but you are apparently out of your league here, if you
don't think that Moto Guzzi made a Desmo, before Ducati. WAY out,
apparently.


Well, what year was your Moto Guzzi 'Desmo'? I'd love to learn more about
it!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD






Jack Smith August 4th 05 03:36 PM

Harry,
Be honest, does Kevin's story about his Moto Guzzi 'Desmo' remind you of
your "Lobster Boat" story?


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 10:14:08 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

wrote:
John H. wrote:
On 4 Aug 2005 05:14:09 -0700,
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:46:00 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700,
wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!

No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are
questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of
one.
It's not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were
considering
buying a motorcycle. It's a has-been line.



Harry, it was your buddy doing the bragging about owning a Moto
Guzzi. Why now
are you trashing his taste in motorcycles?

--
First, idiot, I didn't BRAG about owning a Guzzi. Simply stated I
owned
one once. And it WAS a piece of crap.
Yeah, I hear the "Desmo" version left a lot to be desired. Be careful,
if it was
a real 'Desmo', then it was a Ducati. Harry thinks Duc's rule. Don't
be stepping
on his toes about your piece of crap Ducati!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD
Sorry, John, but you are apparently out of your league here, if you
don't think that Moto Guzzi made a Desmo, before Ducati. WAY out,
apparently.



If you know how to use a search engine, you can enter "moto guzzi" and
"desmo" and get hits that verify the existence of Moto Guzzis with desmo
valves. You'll even find photos of Moto Guzzi engines so equipped.


Oh, you perhaps found a Moto Guzzi engine that had been modified by some
individual. The fact that you find many sites with both Ducati and Moto
Guzzi
together does not mean that Guzzi ever produced a "Desmo". But, I'm
willing to
learn about this model. Please show me a 'Desmo' model Moto Guzzi.



I did not state that I found "many sites with both Ducati and Moto Guzzi
together," nor do I know if the photo I saw was a Guzzi engine "modified"
by "some individual." Indeed, I have no interest in the subject matter
beyond demonstrating once more that you have been done in by your
binary-ness, as it were.






John H. August 4th 05 03:53 PM

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 10:30:54 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 10:14:08 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

wrote:
John H. wrote:
On 4 Aug 2005 05:14:09 -0700,
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:46:00 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700,
wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!

No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of one.
It's not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were considering
buying a motorcycle. It's a has-been line.



Harry, it was your buddy doing the bragging about owning a Moto Guzzi. Why now
are you trashing his taste in motorcycles?

--
First, idiot, I didn't BRAG about owning a Guzzi. Simply stated I owned
one once. And it WAS a piece of crap.
Yeah, I hear the "Desmo" version left a lot to be desired. Be careful, if it was
a real 'Desmo', then it was a Ducati. Harry thinks Duc's rule. Don't be stepping
on his toes about your piece of crap Ducati!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD
Sorry, John, but you are apparently out of your league here, if you
don't think that Moto Guzzi made a Desmo, before Ducati. WAY out,
apparently.



If you know how to use a search engine, you can enter "moto guzzi" and
"desmo" and get hits that verify the existence of Moto Guzzis with desmo
valves. You'll even find photos of Moto Guzzi engines so equipped.


Oh, you perhaps found a Moto Guzzi engine that had been modified by some
individual. The fact that you find many sites with both Ducati and Moto Guzzi
together does not mean that Guzzi ever produced a "Desmo". But, I'm willing to
learn about this model.

Please show me a 'Desmo' model Moto Guzzi.



I did not state that I found "many sites with both Ducati and Moto Guzzi
together," nor do I know if the photo I saw was a Guzzi engine
"modified" by "some individual." Indeed, I have no interest in the
subject matter beyond demonstrating once more that you have been done in
by your binary-ness, as it were.



Then hush. You got a lot of hits because you found a lot of sites with Ducati
and Moto Guzzi together.

If you have no interest, then back out. You've surely not 'done me in'.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

John H. August 4th 05 03:54 PM

On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 10:33:05 -0400, "Jack Smith" JohnSmithers@hotmailcom wrote:

PS:

JohnH,
When Kevin made up his story, I think he wanted to say he owned a Ducati.
My guess is Kevin drove his Moto Guzzi 'Desmo' around the U of Penn campus.



Well, he wanted to say he owned 'something'. Maybe he keeps his Guzzi "Desmo" on
a lobsta boat somewhere.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

John H. August 4th 05 03:55 PM

On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 10:36:23 -0400, "Jack Smith" JohnSmithers@hotmailcom wrote:

Harry,
Be honest, does Kevin's story about his Moto Guzzi 'Desmo' remind you of
your "Lobster Boat" story?


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 10:14:08 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

wrote:
John H. wrote:
On 4 Aug 2005 05:14:09 -0700,
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:46:00 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700,
wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!

No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are
questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of
one.
It's not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were
considering
buying a motorcycle. It's a has-been line.



Harry, it was your buddy doing the bragging about owning a Moto
Guzzi. Why now
are you trashing his taste in motorcycles?

--
First, idiot, I didn't BRAG about owning a Guzzi. Simply stated I
owned
one once. And it WAS a piece of crap.
Yeah, I hear the "Desmo" version left a lot to be desired. Be careful,
if it was
a real 'Desmo', then it was a Ducati. Harry thinks Duc's rule. Don't
be stepping
on his toes about your piece of crap Ducati!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD
Sorry, John, but you are apparently out of your league here, if you
don't think that Moto Guzzi made a Desmo, before Ducati. WAY out,
apparently.



If you know how to use a search engine, you can enter "moto guzzi" and
"desmo" and get hits that verify the existence of Moto Guzzis with desmo
valves. You'll even find photos of Moto Guzzi engines so equipped.


Oh, you perhaps found a Moto Guzzi engine that had been modified by some
individual. The fact that you find many sites with both Ducati and Moto
Guzzi
together does not mean that Guzzi ever produced a "Desmo". But, I'm
willing to
learn about this model. Please show me a 'Desmo' model Moto Guzzi.



I did not state that I found "many sites with both Ducati and Moto Guzzi
together," nor do I know if the photo I saw was a Guzzi engine "modified"
by "some individual." Indeed, I have no interest in the subject matter
beyond demonstrating once more that you have been done in by your
binary-ness, as it were.




Why else would Harry keep throwing shovels to Kevin?

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

Jack Smith August 4th 05 04:01 PM


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 10:33:05 -0400, "Jack Smith" JohnSmithers@hotmailcom
wrote:

PS:

JohnH,
When Kevin made up his story, I think he wanted to say he owned a Ducati.
My guess is Kevin drove his Moto Guzzi 'Desmo' around the U of Penn
campus.



Well, he wanted to say he owned 'something'. Maybe he keeps his Guzzi
"Desmo" on
a lobsta boat somewhere.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD


JohnH,

GMTA ; )

I wonder why the NG's most prolific liberal posters feel they need to boost
their egos in rec.boats? What happened that they are not satisfied by their
real life?

Tell me does this remind you of anyone:

Narcissistic
Personality Disorder. The symptoms of NPD is: A pervasive pattern of
grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of
empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts,
as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates
achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without
commensurate achievements)
(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance,
beauty, or ideal love

(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be
understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people
(or institutions)

(4) requires excessive admiration

(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of
especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her
expectations

(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to
achieve his or her own ends

(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings
and needs of others

(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him
or her

(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes



NOYB August 4th 05 04:02 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...

NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
How To Be A Good Repubican
1. You have to believe that the nation's current 8 year prosperity


Last 8 years, eh? Finally you admit that we've had prosperity the entire
time that Bush has been office.


I take it you can't comprehend when this was written? Hint: there are
more clues below....


I realized it was written during Clinton's watch. So why would you post
something that is almost a decade old?



was
due to the work of Ronald Reagan and George Bush, but yesterday's
gasoline prices are all Bill Clinton's fault.



2. You have to believe that those privileged from birth achieve success
all on their own.


There are a lot of privileged Kennedy's who screwed it up big time by
raping
and murdering. Privilege doesn't breed success. Good child-rearing
breeds
success.


Once again, you've totally missed the point, or has chosen to ignore
it.


Chosen to ignore it.






3. You have to be against all government programs, but expect Social
Security checks on time.


Social Security checks are simply a rebate of your own money. Of course
they should be on time.


But, it's still a government program, and the republicans are against
government programs.


We are. Stop taking the FICA deduction out of my check every two weeks and
I promise not to whine if my Social Security check doesn't arrive on time 30
years from now.


4. You have to believe that AIDS victims deserve their disease, but
smokers with lung cancer and overweight individuals with heart disease
don't deserve theirs.


Some people are overweight due to genetics. But, yes, smokers and
over-eaters who are obese deserve their disease. And the vast majority
of
AIDS victims do to.


What a compassionate person, I'm certainly glad you decided to make
false teeth for the elderly, as opposed to doing dental work that would
require some compassion.


70% of my production is from crown, bridge and implants. 8 % is from
removable prostheses like dentures.




5. You have to appreciate the power rush that comes with sporting a
gun.


I don't own a gun. I don't need a gun...even if you came down to try and
spit in my face.


Oh, don't tell your fellow republicans you don't own a gun, they'll
kick you out.




6. You have to believe...everything Rush Limbaugh says.


Haven't listened to Rush since 1996.


Yeah, sure, I've seen you use his quotes right here.


I've never quoted Rush. Go ahead and look in the archives.

So, Hannity's your
new guy?


Hannity's more palateable, but I don't listen to talk radio and I don't
watch the talking heads on TV. The only time I turn on the TV is to watch
fishing shows and Ship Shape TV. I get my news from news sources on the
internet.





7. You have to believe that the agricultural, restaurant, housing and
hotel industries can survive without immigrant labor.


No they can't. In fact, Bush favors immigrant labor to work jobs that
others won't work.


False.


True:
" I ask Congress to reform our immigration laws so they reflect our values
and benefit our economy. I propose a new temporary-worker program to match
willing foreign workers with willing employers when no Americans can be
found to fill the job. " (Bush 2004 State of the Union Address)




8. You have to believe God hates homosexuality, but loves the
deathpenalty.


I oppose the death penalty...and homosexuality.


You're too narrow minded to understand that homosexuality isn't
something that someone desires. I'll bet just about any gay person
would rather not be that way.


9. You have to believe society is color-blind and growing up black in
America doesn't diminish your opportunities, but you still won't vote
for Alan Keyes.


Actually, growing up black or minority actually increases your
opportunities
for scholarship money and admission into top-notch colleges. It's called
affirmative action.


So, growing up in a slum,


You automatically equate blacks with slums? Interesting.

having to support your ailing parents


Only blacks have sick parents?

by
selling drugs because there's no honest work there,


Only blacks sell drugs because they're incapable of working an honest job?
Your stereotypes are very telling.


affords you a
better opportunity than growing up in a successful, upper middle class
or higher family????


10. You have to believe that pollution is OK as long as it makes a
profit.


Nobody believes pollution is OK. What our side disagrees with your side
on
is the accuracy of the Global warming claim, and exactly how much impact
CO
gases from cars really have on the ozone layer.


Yeah, only about 99.99% of scientists believe and understand the impact
of global warming.

11. You have to believe in prayer in schools, as long as you don't pray
to Allah or Buddha.


You can pray to whomever you'd like. But prayer should be part of school
during solemn moments (ie--after 9/11, after the shuttle explosions, etc)


Why? If my child is raised an atheist, or agnostic, why should he or
she have her education disrupted every day by prayer?


We're a nation whose laws were built on Judeo-Christian values. Not
convinced? Then consider this:

On the Supreme Court building, there is a sculpture entitled "Justic the
Guardian of Liberty". The sculpture is a symbolic representation of people
representing civilizations from where our laws were derived. On that
sculpture are three prominent figures: Moses, Confucius, and Solon. Moses
is holding two tablets, believed to represent the tablets on which the 10
Commandments were written. The symbolic message is clear in this sculptu
much of our laws were derived from the 10 Commandments.

The lower portion of the doors leading to the Supreme Court have two tablets
on them. On the tablets, you can see the Roman numerals I through V and VI
through X...once again representing the Ten Commandments.

In the Supreme Court room where the Justices meet, there is a frieze with
several figures on it, one of whom is Moses. Moses is carrying a tablet
again. This time, Commandments VI through X can be seen on the
tablet...with the Commandments written in Hebrew.

Every session of Congress begins with a prayer by a paid preacher . . .
whose salary has been paid by the taxpayer since 1777.



John Jay, one of the framers of the Constitution, was appointed by George
Washington in 1789 to be the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the
United States (and later served two terms as governor of New York). He
wrote: "Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers".






12. You have to believe Newt Gingrich and Henry Hyde were really
faithful husbands.


Who cares.


That's odd, you seem to think Clinton is evil for just the same thing,
and you righties bring it up in almost every discussion about him!


He's a sleaze, but that's not why Congress impeached him. They did it
because he lied to a Grand Jury.


13. You have to believe speaking a few Spanish phrases makes you
instantly popular in the barrio.


Chinga te cabron.


See? Point made.


Glad I could help.




14. You have to believe that only your own teenagers are still virgins.


Republicans were teenagers once. We know better.


15. You have to be against government interference in business, until
your oil company, corporation or Savings and Loan is about to go broke
and you beg for a government bail out.

16. You love Jesus and Jesus loves you and, by the way, Jesus shares
your hatred for AIDS victims, homosexuals, and President Clinton.


Jesus hates Clinton? Why? Is he a homosexual?


ZOOM, that went right over your head, didn't it?



Zoom, right back at you.



17. You have to believe government has nothing to do with providing
police protection, national defense, and building roads.


Those are about the only good things government does. They provide the
infrastructure, and protection against threats...both domestic and
foreign.


Oh, so you DON'T like Bush's policies?


I like the Highway bill that just passed. I like his military buildup and
other policies. And I feel adequately protected from crime. I love Bush's
policies.



18. You have to believe a poor, minority student with a disciplinary
history and failing grades will be admitted into an elite private
school with a $1,000 voucher.


Even if he's rich and white with a disciplinary history and failing
grades,
he doesn't belong in an elite private school.


You COMPLETELY missed the point there!





Jack Smith August 4th 05 04:38 PM

Harry,
Can you show us a link to one site to prove JohnH's statement incorrect?


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:



I did not state that I found "many sites with both Ducati and Moto Guzzi
together," nor do I know if the photo I saw was a Guzzi engine
"modified" by "some individual." Indeed, I have no interest in the
subject matter beyond demonstrating once more that you have been done in
by your binary-ness, as it were.



Then hush. You got a lot of hits because you found a lot of sites with
Ducati
and Moto Guzzi together.

If you have no interest, then back out. You've surely not 'done me in'.


Now you're telling me what I found on my search?

What a horse's ass you are.

You do yourself in, fella; you need no help from me.




[email protected] August 4th 05 05:25 PM


NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

NOYB wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
How To Be A Good Repubican
1. You have to believe that the nation's current 8 year prosperity

Last 8 years, eh? Finally you admit that we've had prosperity the entire
time that Bush has been office.


I take it you can't comprehend when this was written? Hint: there are
more clues below....


I realized it was written during Clinton's watch. So why would you post
something that is almost a decade old?



was
due to the work of Ronald Reagan and George Bush, but yesterday's
gasoline prices are all Bill Clinton's fault.


2. You have to believe that those privileged from birth achieve success
all on their own.

There are a lot of privileged Kennedy's who screwed it up big time by
raping
and murdering. Privilege doesn't breed success. Good child-rearing
breeds
success.


Once again, you've totally missed the point, or has chosen to ignore
it.


Chosen to ignore it.


NOYB's admittedly fueled by ignorance....great...






3. You have to be against all government programs, but expect Social
Security checks on time.


Social Security checks are simply a rebate of your own money. Of course
they should be on time.


But, it's still a government program, and the republicans are against
government programs.


We are. Stop taking the FICA deduction out of my check every two weeks and
I promise not to whine if my Social Security check doesn't arrive on time 30
years from now.


Nah, you'll just whine about something else, like some democrat getting
a blow job.


4. You have to believe that AIDS victims deserve their disease, but
smokers with lung cancer and overweight individuals with heart disease
don't deserve theirs.


Some people are overweight due to genetics. But, yes, smokers and
over-eaters who are obese deserve their disease. And the vast majority
of
AIDS victims do to.


What a compassionate person, I'm certainly glad you decided to make
false teeth for the elderly, as opposed to doing dental work that would
require some compassion.


70% of my production is from crown, bridge and implants. 8 % is from
removable prostheses like dentures.


Yeah, uh huh.




5. You have to appreciate the power rush that comes with sporting a
gun.

I don't own a gun. I don't need a gun...even if you came down to try and
spit in my face.


Oh, don't tell your fellow republicans you don't own a gun, they'll
kick you out.




6. You have to believe...everything Rush Limbaugh says.

Haven't listened to Rush since 1996.


Yeah, sure, I've seen you use his quotes right here.


I've never quoted Rush. Go ahead and look in the archives.

So, Hannity's your
new guy?


Hannity's more palateable, but I don't listen to talk radio and I don't
watch the talking heads on TV. The only time I turn on the TV is to watch
fishing shows and Ship Shape TV. I get my news from news sources on the
internet.


Is there a point you're trying to make? If so, you've failed.





7. You have to believe that the agricultural, restaurant, housing and
hotel industries can survive without immigrant labor.


No they can't. In fact, Bush favors immigrant labor to work jobs that
others won't work.


False.


True:
" I ask Congress to reform our immigration laws so they reflect our values
and benefit our economy. I propose a new temporary-worker program to match
willing foreign workers with willing employers when no Americans can be
found to fill the job. " (Bush 2004 State of the Union Address)


Oh, yeah, like everything Bush has stated in speeches is true??!!!!!!!

"We will get Osama binLaden dead or alive".
"Osama isn't a concern, I'm not worried about him". Which of THOSE was
true?




8. You have to believe God hates homosexuality, but loves the
deathpenalty.

I oppose the death penalty...and homosexuality.


You're too narrow minded to understand that homosexuality isn't
something that someone desires. I'll bet just about any gay person
would rather not be that way.


9. You have to believe society is color-blind and growing up black in
America doesn't diminish your opportunities, but you still won't vote
for Alan Keyes.

Actually, growing up black or minority actually increases your
opportunities
for scholarship money and admission into top-notch colleges. It's called
affirmative action.


So, growing up in a slum,


You automatically equate blacks with slums? Interesting.


Where did I say that?

having to support your ailing parents


Only blacks have sick parents?


Where did I say that? If you want to seem credible, you should try
sticking to the facts, instead of trying to put words in people's
mouths.

by
selling drugs because there's no honest work there,


Only blacks sell drugs because they're incapable of working an honest job?
Your stereotypes are very telling.


Where did I say that? BUT, if you'd like, I can post statistics that
bring that would certainly show that "blacks and minorites" DO make up
the bulk of arrests for drug sales.


affords you a
better opportunity than growing up in a successful, upper middle class
or higher family????


10. You have to believe that pollution is OK as long as it makes a
profit.


Nobody believes pollution is OK. What our side disagrees with your side
on
is the accuracy of the Global warming claim, and exactly how much impact
CO
gases from cars really have on the ozone layer.


Yeah, only about 99.99% of scientists believe and understand the impact
of global warming.

11. You have to believe in prayer in schools, as long as you don't pray
to Allah or Buddha.


You can pray to whomever you'd like. But prayer should be part of school
during solemn moments (ie--after 9/11, after the shuttle explosions, etc)


Why? If my child is raised an atheist, or agnostic, why should he or
she have her education disrupted every day by prayer?


We're a nation whose laws were built on Judeo-Christian values. Not
convinced? Then consider this:

On the Supreme Court building, there is a sculpture entitled "Justic the
Guardian of Liberty". The sculpture is a symbolic representation of people
representing civilizations from where our laws were derived. On that
sculpture are three prominent figures: Moses, Confucius, and Solon. Moses
is holding two tablets, believed to represent the tablets on which the 10
Commandments were written. The symbolic message is clear in this sculptu
much of our laws were derived from the 10 Commandments.

The lower portion of the doors leading to the Supreme Court have two tablets
on them. On the tablets, you can see the Roman numerals I through V and VI
through X...once again representing the Ten Commandments.

In the Supreme Court room where the Justices meet, there is a frieze with
several figures on it, one of whom is Moses. Moses is carrying a tablet
again. This time, Commandments VI through X can be seen on the
tablet...with the Commandments written in Hebrew.

Every session of Congress begins with a prayer by a paid preacher . . .
whose salary has been paid by the taxpayer since 1777.



John Jay, one of the framers of the Constitution, was appointed by George
Washington in 1789 to be the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the
United States (and later served two terms as governor of New York). He
wrote: "Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers".


And all of this makes it okay in your book? I suppose that in Iraq,
their government bowed to Muslims in just the same way, yet you seem to
think they are less than human.






12. You have to believe Newt Gingrich and Henry Hyde were really
faithful husbands.

Who cares.


That's odd, you seem to think Clinton is evil for just the same thing,
and you righties bring it up in almost every discussion about him!


He's a sleaze, but that's not why Congress impeached him. They did it
because he lied to a Grand Jury.


Then Newt's a sleaze also!


13. You have to believe speaking a few Spanish phrases makes you
instantly popular in the barrio.

Chinga te cabron.


See? Point made.


Glad I could help.




14. You have to believe that only your own teenagers are still virgins.

Republicans were teenagers once. We know better.


15. You have to be against government interference in business, until
your oil company, corporation or Savings and Loan is about to go broke
and you beg for a government bail out.

16. You love Jesus and Jesus loves you and, by the way, Jesus shares
your hatred for AIDS victims, homosexuals, and President Clinton.

Jesus hates Clinton? Why? Is he a homosexual?


ZOOM, that went right over your head, didn't it?



Zoom, right back at you.


Hate to disappoint you, but no, I fully understood the statement.



17. You have to believe government has nothing to do with providing
police protection, national defense, and building roads.

Those are about the only good things government does. They provide the
infrastructure, and protection against threats...both domestic and
foreign.


Oh, so you DON'T like Bush's policies?


I like the Highway bill that just passed. I like his military buildup and
other policies. And I feel adequately protected from crime. I love Bush's
policies.


Really? You totally agree with the 6,900 pork inserts in the bill, huh?
Figures. You wouldn't say anything bad about a BushCo bill if your life
depended on it. Lemming.



18. You have to believe a poor, minority student with a disciplinary
history and failing grades will be admitted into an elite private
school with a $1,000 voucher.

Even if he's rich and white with a disciplinary history and failing
grades,
he doesn't belong in an elite private school.


You COMPLETELY missed the point there!


Time to go get in the daisy chain with your three buddies, Fritz, JimH,
and Smithers. Perhaps JohnH will join you guys for a five-some!!!!



NOYB August 4th 05 05:56 PM


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How To Be A Good Repubican
1. You have to believe that the nation's current 8 year prosperity

Last 8 years, eh? Finally you admit that we've had prosperity the
entire
time that Bush has been office.

I take it you can't comprehend when this was written? Hint: there are
more clues below....


I realized it was written during Clinton's watch. So why would you post
something that is almost a decade old?



was
due to the work of Ronald Reagan and George Bush, but yesterday's
gasoline prices are all Bill Clinton's fault.


2. You have to believe that those privileged from birth achieve
success
all on their own.

There are a lot of privileged Kennedy's who screwed it up big time by
raping
and murdering. Privilege doesn't breed success. Good child-rearing
breeds
success.

Once again, you've totally missed the point, or has chosen to ignore
it.


Chosen to ignore it.


NOYB's admittedly fueled by ignorance....great...



LOL. Ignoring a basskisser "point" is intelligent...not ignorant.








3. You have to be against all government programs, but expect Social
Security checks on time.


Social Security checks are simply a rebate of your own money. Of
course
they should be on time.

But, it's still a government program, and the republicans are against
government programs.


We are. Stop taking the FICA deduction out of my check every two weeks
and
I promise not to whine if my Social Security check doesn't arrive on time
30
years from now.


Nah, you'll just whine about something else, like some democrat getting
a blow job.


Ooooh. Good comeback.


4. You have to believe that AIDS victims deserve their disease, but
smokers with lung cancer and overweight individuals with heart
disease
don't deserve theirs.


Some people are overweight due to genetics. But, yes, smokers and
over-eaters who are obese deserve their disease. And the vast
majority
of
AIDS victims do to.

What a compassionate person, I'm certainly glad you decided to make
false teeth for the elderly, as opposed to doing dental work that would
require some compassion.


70% of my production is from crown, bridge and implants. 8 % is from
removable prostheses like dentures.


Yeah, uh huh.


Another well thought-out response.




5. You have to appreciate the power rush that comes with sporting a
gun.

I don't own a gun. I don't need a gun...even if you came down to try
and
spit in my face.

Oh, don't tell your fellow republicans you don't own a gun, they'll
kick you out.




6. You have to believe...everything Rush Limbaugh says.

Haven't listened to Rush since 1996.

Yeah, sure, I've seen you use his quotes right here.


I've never quoted Rush. Go ahead and look in the archives.

So, Hannity's your
new guy?


Hannity's more palateable, but I don't listen to talk radio and I don't
watch the talking heads on TV. The only time I turn on the TV is to
watch
fishing shows and Ship Shape TV. I get my news from news sources on the
internet.


Is there a point you're trying to make? If so, you've failed.



You said I quoted Rush and Hannity. I don't listen to them, so if there's
any similarity in what any of us say, it's purely coincidental. Or perhaps
they are quoting me. Maybe they're lurkers on rec.boats. There ya go,
Kevin....there's your and Harry's new conspiracy. Smithers is Rush in
disguise.





7. You have to believe that the agricultural, restaurant, housing
and
hotel industries can survive without immigrant labor.


No they can't. In fact, Bush favors immigrant labor to work jobs that
others won't work.

False.


True:
" I ask Congress to reform our immigration laws so they reflect our
values
and benefit our economy. I propose a new temporary-worker program to
match
willing foreign workers with willing employers when no Americans can be
found to fill the job. " (Bush 2004 State of the Union Address)


Oh, yeah, like everything Bush has stated in speeches is true??!!!!!!!


Then show me someplace where Bush said that he opposes legalized immigrant
workers working in jobs that Americans won't work. Can't find any sources?
Didn't think so.


"We will get Osama binLaden dead or alive".
"Osama isn't a concern, I'm not worried about him". Which of THOSE was
true?


Both. Eventually we'll get Osama dead or alive. Right now, he's not the
primary issue at hand.




8. You have to believe God hates homosexuality, but loves the
deathpenalty.

I oppose the death penalty...and homosexuality.

You're too narrow minded to understand that homosexuality isn't
something that someone desires. I'll bet just about any gay person
would rather not be that way.


9. You have to believe society is color-blind and growing up black
in
America doesn't diminish your opportunities, but you still won't
vote
for Alan Keyes.

Actually, growing up black or minority actually increases your
opportunities
for scholarship money and admission into top-notch colleges. It's
called
affirmative action.

So, growing up in a slum,


You automatically equate blacks with slums? Interesting.


Where did I say that?


You mentioned blacks and opportunities. We started arguing about the
opportunities which blacks have that whites don't (affirmative action, etc).
Somehow your mind automatically equated blacks with slums. I just find that
interesting.



having to support your ailing parents


Only blacks have sick parents?



Where did I say that? If you want to seem credible, you should try
sticking to the facts, instead of trying to put words in people's
mouths.


We were talking about the opportunities for blacks vs. whites. You're the
one who generalized and stereotyped by talking about "slums" and "ailing
parents" and "selling drugs". Blacks don't have a monopoly on any of those
things, so why even mention them in a discussion about the different
opportunites available to blacks vs. whites?



by
selling drugs because there's no honest work there,


Only blacks sell drugs because they're incapable of working an honest
job?
Your stereotypes are very telling.


Where did I say that? BUT, if you'd like, I can post statistics that
bring that would certainly show that "blacks and minorites" DO make up
the bulk of arrests for drug sales.


Well, then that explains why those blacks may have a harder time taking
advantage of the wonderful opportunities in front of them...'cause they
screw it up by doing something illegal. But what does this have to do with
your argument that blacks don't have the same opportunities as whites?




affords you a
better opportunity than growing up in a successful, upper middle class
or higher family????


10. You have to believe that pollution is OK as long as it makes a
profit.


Nobody believes pollution is OK. What our side disagrees with your
side
on
is the accuracy of the Global warming claim, and exactly how much
impact
CO
gases from cars really have on the ozone layer.

Yeah, only about 99.99% of scientists believe and understand the impact
of global warming.

11. You have to believe in prayer in schools, as long as you don't
pray
to Allah or Buddha.


You can pray to whomever you'd like. But prayer should be part of
school
during solemn moments (ie--after 9/11, after the shuttle explosions,
etc)

Why? If my child is raised an atheist, or agnostic, why should he or
she have her education disrupted every day by prayer?


We're a nation whose laws were built on Judeo-Christian values. Not
convinced? Then consider this:

On the Supreme Court building, there is a sculpture entitled "Justic the
Guardian of Liberty". The sculpture is a symbolic representation of
people
representing civilizations from where our laws were derived. On that
sculpture are three prominent figures: Moses, Confucius, and Solon.
Moses
is holding two tablets, believed to represent the tablets on which the 10
Commandments were written. The symbolic message is clear in this
sculptu
much of our laws were derived from the 10 Commandments.

The lower portion of the doors leading to the Supreme Court have two
tablets
on them. On the tablets, you can see the Roman numerals I through V and
VI
through X...once again representing the Ten Commandments.

In the Supreme Court room where the Justices meet, there is a frieze with
several figures on it, one of whom is Moses. Moses is carrying a tablet
again. This time, Commandments VI through X can be seen on the
tablet...with the Commandments written in Hebrew.

Every session of Congress begins with a prayer by a paid preacher . . .
whose salary has been paid by the taxpayer since 1777.



John Jay, one of the framers of the Constitution, was appointed by George
Washington in 1789 to be the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of
the
United States (and later served two terms as governor of New York). He
wrote: "Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers".


And all of this makes it okay in your book? I suppose that in Iraq,
their government bowed to Muslims in just the same way, yet you seem to
think they are less than human.


Deciding to follow the teachings of that evil man Mohammed, and commit
horrible acts in his name is what makes them less than human.








12. You have to believe Newt Gingrich and Henry Hyde were really
faithful husbands.

Who cares.

That's odd, you seem to think Clinton is evil for just the same thing,
and you righties bring it up in almost every discussion about him!


He's a sleaze, but that's not why Congress impeached him. They did it
because he lied to a Grand Jury.


Then Newt's a sleaze also!


Yep.



13. You have to believe speaking a few Spanish phrases makes you
instantly popular in the barrio.

Chinga te cabron.

See? Point made.


Glad I could help.




14. You have to believe that only your own teenagers are still
virgins.

Republicans were teenagers once. We know better.


15. You have to be against government interference in business,
until
your oil company, corporation or Savings and Loan is about to go
broke
and you beg for a government bail out.

16. You love Jesus and Jesus loves you and, by the way, Jesus shares
your hatred for AIDS victims, homosexuals, and President Clinton.

Jesus hates Clinton? Why? Is he a homosexual?

ZOOM, that went right over your head, didn't it?



Zoom, right back at you.


Hate to disappoint you, but no, I fully understood the statement.


No, you really didn't.



17. You have to believe government has nothing to do with providing
police protection, national defense, and building roads.

Those are about the only good things government does. They provide
the
infrastructure, and protection against threats...both domestic and
foreign.

Oh, so you DON'T like Bush's policies?


I like the Highway bill that just passed. I like his military buildup
and
other policies. And I feel adequately protected from crime. I love
Bush's
policies.


Really? You totally agree with the 6,900 pork inserts in the bill, huh?
Figures. You wouldn't say anything bad about a BushCo bill if your life
depended on it. Lemming.


As a whole, I like the bill. It's going to send money down my way for
much-needed widening of I-75.



John H. August 4th 05 06:03 PM

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 11:14:45 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:



I did not state that I found "many sites with both Ducati and Moto Guzzi
together," nor do I know if the photo I saw was a Guzzi engine
"modified" by "some individual." Indeed, I have no interest in the
subject matter beyond demonstrating once more that you have been done in
by your binary-ness, as it were.



Then hush. You got a lot of hits because you found a lot of sites with Ducati
and Moto Guzzi together.

If you have no interest, then back out. You've surely not 'done me in'.


Now you're telling me what I found on my search?

What a horse's ass you are.

You do yourself in, fella; you need no help from me.


Let's see...who were you knocking for name-calling earlier??

Jeeesh!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

John H. August 4th 05 06:08 PM

On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:38:25 -0400, "Jack Smith" JohnSmithers@hotmailcom wrote:

Harry,
Can you show us a link to one site to prove JohnH's statement incorrect?


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:



I did not state that I found "many sites with both Ducati and Moto Guzzi
together," nor do I know if the photo I saw was a Guzzi engine
"modified" by "some individual." Indeed, I have no interest in the
subject matter beyond demonstrating once more that you have been done in
by your binary-ness, as it were.



Then hush. You got a lot of hits because you found a lot of sites with
Ducati
and Moto Guzzi together.

If you have no interest, then back out. You've surely not 'done me in'.


Now you're telling me what I found on my search?

What a horse's ass you are.

You do yourself in, fella; you need no help from me.



[Frantic searching going on!]

I don't think I said Guzzi *didn't* make a 'Desmo' model. I've just never heard
of it, so I asked for some facts to back up a claim. I'm still waiting for the
facts. If you put "moto guzzi" and krause into Google, you'll get over 4000
hits, so I guess they made a 'krause' model also (using Harry's logic!).

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

John H. August 4th 05 06:48 PM

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:16:11 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:


I don't think I said Guzzi *didn't* make a 'Desmo' model. I've just never heard
of it, so I asked for some facts to back up a claim. I'm still waiting for the
facts. If you put "moto guzzi" and krause into Google, you'll get over 4000
hits, so I guess they made a 'krause' model also (using Harry's logic!).



One might think an ex-Army Corps of Engineers ossifer who now teaches
math would know how to set up a boolean search in a search engine,
especially if a math-disadvantaged English major can do it.

How about a belt-driven desmo valve train on a Guzzi? Here's one of 289
hits I got by putting together a proper search.

http://members.chello.nl/~wgj.jansen/text/HPL.html


Enough of this nonsense.


I mentioned it earlier. Hans does nice work. But, it's not a Desmo model Guzzi.
It's a one-of that most likely was *not* owned by Kevin. The Nederlands Moto
Guzzi Club is the largest Guzzi club in the world.

The American 'club' is not really a club, but a way for the 'president' to make
money selling a magazine subscription.

Of course, you know all this because you're able to put together a boolean
search in a search engine. Try-- "moto guzzi" desmo--in your search. You'll find
Hans' pictures easily. No engineering experience needed!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

[email protected] August 4th 05 07:31 PM


John H. wrote:
On 4 Aug 2005 07:00:20 -0700, wrote:


John H. wrote:
On 4 Aug 2005 05:14:09 -0700,
wrote:


John H. wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:46:00 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 3 Aug 2005 10:13:56 -0700,
wrote:


Kevin, tell us about your Moto Guzzi!



No one cares about Moto Guzzis or whether the person you are questioning
had one, rode one, crashed one, or urinated in the fuel tank of one.
It's not a brand of bike I would even consider, if I were considering
buying a motorcycle. It's a has-been line.



Harry, it was your buddy doing the bragging about owning a Moto Guzzi. Why now
are you trashing his taste in motorcycles?

--
First, idiot, I didn't BRAG about owning a Guzzi. Simply stated I owned
one once. And it WAS a piece of crap.

Yeah, I hear the "Desmo" version left a lot to be desired. Be careful, if it was
a real 'Desmo', then it was a Ducati. Harry thinks Duc's rule. Don't be stepping
on his toes about your piece of crap Ducati!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD


Sorry, John, but you are apparently out of your league here, if you
don't think that Moto Guzzi made a Desmo, before Ducati. WAY out,
apparently.


Well, what year was your Moto Guzzi 'Desmo'? I'd love to learn more about it!

--

Mine was a '71. Do a simple google search, I found quite a few hits,
most in Italian.



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