I am thinking that I might be interested in a Ketch or Cruiser
restoration project. I would like one about 45' on deck. If any has one
for sale in the Pacific NW I might be interested to hear from you. If
anyone has any experience with a restoration of this type I would be
interested to hear your horror stories etc.
I have looked at several web sites (ferrocement.org, etc) as well as
looked at several book titles on the subject but have found that books and
the real world are two entirely different things. I would like to get a
diversity of resources that I can refer to. If anyone can offer any ideas
I would appreciate it. I run out of ideas from time to time.
I have limited construction experience and have had some training with
shop tools and equipment and may be able to offer some ideas to someone
who might need some help so I would like to hear from those people as
well. I also have some cadet experience and may also be able to help with
some of those issues as well. Hope to hear from y'all soon!

Tom

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On 31 Jul 2005 22:46:47 -0800, (Thomas D.
Ireland) wrote:


I am thinking that I might be interested in a Ketch or Cruiser
restoration project. I would like one about 45' on deck. If any has one
for sale in the Pacific NW I might be interested to hear from you. If
anyone has any experience with a restoration of this type I would be
interested to hear your horror stories etc.
I have looked at several web sites (ferrocement.org, etc) as well as
looked at several book titles on the subject but have found that books and
the real world are two entirely different things. I would like to get a
diversity of resources that I can refer to. If anyone can offer any ideas
I would appreciate it. I run out of ideas from time to time.
I have limited construction experience and have had some training with
shop tools and equipment and may be able to offer some ideas to someone
who might need some help so I would like to hear from those people as
well. I also have some cadet experience and may also be able to help with
some of those issues as well. Hope to hear from y'all soon!

Having done several restorations over the years from cars to boats,
including a '68 Chris Craft Corsair which is in it's second year of
work, this is not something that you want to take on if you have never
done anything like it before. It's not a reflection on you or your
ability to learn, adjust or competence - it's just a fact.

Second, you are spot on - books don't cover it all. Even on my newer
boats, I'm always learning something about them, breaking something
that isn't quite covered or having to noodle an issue through without
any support at all from available information.

As to ferroconcrete, do what you will, but I'd stay away from this
type of vessel. It's not that they are or aren't any safer than any
other type of vessel - they built a bizillion of them during WWII and
I've heard tell that several of them are still floating and being
used. It's that the maintenance is tougher with them, the issues are
much more complex (like spalling for example) and you just can't
"repair" one in the middle of a cruise.

If I were you, I'd take on a smaller task - find a boat with a smaller
profile in glass or wood which is solid and sound, but needs some TLC.
That way you can get more complex as you learn and maybe even make
some money along the way after all the work is done.

In any case, good luck.

Later,

Tom

Thanks for the tip! It is a big project but I have time on my hands. I'm
not worried about woodwork so if I can get a good hull with a deck the
rest will be simple. I would subcontract electrical for insurance reasons
and plumbing because I want to be sure it is reliable though.


Tom

Shortwave
Sportfishing ) wrote:
: On 31 Jul 2005 22:46:47 -0800, (Thomas D.
: Ireland) wrote:

:
: I am thinking that I might be interested in a Ketch or Cruiser
: restoration project. I would like one about 45' on deck. If any has one
: for sale in the Pacific NW I might be interested to hear from you. If
: anyone has any experience with a restoration of this type I would be
: interested to hear your horror stories etc.
: I have looked at several web sites (ferrocement.org, etc) as well as
: looked at several book titles on the subject but have found that books and
: the real world are two entirely different things. I would like to get a
: diversity of resources that I can refer to. If anyone can offer any ideas
: I would appreciate it. I run out of ideas from time to time.
: I have limited construction experience and have had some training with
: shop tools and equipment and may be able to offer some ideas to someone
: who might need some help so I would like to hear from those people as
: well. I also have some cadet experience and may also be able to help with
: some of those issues as well. Hope to hear from y'all soon!

: Having done several restorations over the years from cars to boats,
: including a '68 Chris Craft Corsair which is in it's second year of
: work, this is not something that you want to take on if you have never
: done anything like it before. It's not a reflection on you or your
: ability to learn, adjust or competence - it's just a fact.

: Second, you are spot on - books don't cover it all. Even on my newer
: boats, I'm always learning something about them, breaking something
: that isn't quite covered or having to noodle an issue through without
: any support at all from available information.

: As to ferroconcrete, do what you will, but I'd stay away from this
: type of vessel. It's not that they are or aren't any safer than any
: other type of vessel - they built a bizillion of them during WWII and
: I've heard tell that several of them are still floating and being
: used. It's that the maintenance is tougher with them, the issues are
: much more complex (like spalling for example) and you just can't
: "repair" one in the middle of a cruise.

: If I were you, I'd take on a smaller task - find a boat with a smaller
: profile in glass or wood which is solid and sound, but needs some TLC.
: That way you can get more complex as you learn and maybe even make
: some money along the way after all the work is done.

: In any case, good luck.

: Later,

: Tom

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