On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 21:46:55 -0400, NOYB wrote:


I'm not quoting Limbaugh. I'm quoting the Iraqi PM, al-Jaafari, from an
interview he had with David Gregory less than a month ago:

English is Jaafari's second language. Interesting that you have to rely
on him for a definition of insurgency or terrorism. Although, I suppose
it's better than relying on our President. English appears to be his
second language also.


" I certainly, again, would not call this an insurgency. I would call it a
group of terrorists who are out to kill as many people as possible. That
is easy to do. Anyone can come in and blow himself up and choose the
softest targets possible and carry out acts of terror.

Clearly, we are fighting terrorists in Iraq. Anyone who targets
civilians, is, by definition, a terrorist.


And all of them come from outside Iraq and they admit this freely on TV
when they are interrogated.

BS. If all of these terrorists are coming from outside of Iraq, where are
the bodies? In every study I could find, foreign fighters make up a very
small percentage of those fighting, typically less than 10%.. NOYB, you
have been using this "foreign fighter" argument for some time. Come on
now, show us a source. Where are the numbers?


"Insurgents" only refers to people who have a social base and have
support. They carried out either armed uprising or peaceful uprising like
Gandhi but these are no such thing. They are terrorists."

So, NOYB, have you read the new studies about just who these foreign
fighters are? It seems they are not al Qaeda. It seems they *weren't*
terrorists at all, although they are now. It seems they "are part of a
new generation of terrorists responding to calls to defend their fellow
Muslims from 'crusaders' and 'infidels.'" In other words, they are *our*
creation.

http://forums.santacruzsentinel.com/...c;f=1;t=002361

Just imagine if the Chump hadn't invaded Iraq. The chances are al Qaeda
would be in ruins, bin Laden may even have been brought to justice, and
quite possibly, the world would be at peace. We are now embroiled in a
problem we created. A problem that might never have existed, if it
weren't for the stupid SOB in the White House. A problem that just isn't
going away.