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Sorry, but it's now exceeded my struggle/fun ratio threshold.

I like that statement. I think I'll save it for future use. ;-)

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NOYB wrote:
"-rick-" wrote in message

There was a US General on Faux News (of all places) this morning
addressing that very question.


Who was the General? Is he on active duty, or is he a "former General"
who doesn't really have his finger on the pulse over there? Was he
interviewed while in Iraq, or was he sitting in Fox News' broadcast
building?

If you can provide his name (or even the name of the person who
interviewed him) we can read the transcript and see exactly who this
General was and what he actually said (not that I don't believe somebody
like you who refers to Fox News as Faux News). Time to put up or shut
up.

Calling it faux news is a cheap shot but generally deserved.

The story aired between about 9:30 and 10 AM PDT 7/25/05. It appeared that
the general was on active duty. He was shown in uniform commenting from
Iraq. I was exercising on the elliptical without glasses and couldn't read
his name on the 13" tube across the room. I'm sure they introduced him but
I was paying attention to the newspaper until the discussion moved to the
make up of the insurgency.

A more diligent or competent researcher could probably find a transcript
(LexisNexis?). I briefly searched the Foxnews site but didn't find a
reference to that particular story. Sorry, but it's now exceeded my
struggle/fun ratio threshold.

-rick-

Well, based on NOYB's rules, the story did not exist. Nor did your TV, your
exercise machine, glasses, newspaper, and perhaps even your house. The
existence of all these things depends on the name of the person who was
interviewed.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"-rick-" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"-rick-" wrote in message

There was a US General on Faux News (of all places) this morning
addressing that very question.


Who was the General? Is he on active duty, or is he a "former General"
who doesn't really have his finger on the pulse over there? Was he
interviewed while in Iraq, or was he sitting in Fox News' broadcast
building?

If you can provide his name (or even the name of the person who
interviewed him) we can read the transcript and see exactly who this
General was and what he actually said (not that I don't believe somebody
like you who refers to Fox News as Faux News). Time to put up or shut
up.

Calling it faux news is a cheap shot but generally deserved.

The story aired between about 9:30 and 10 AM PDT 7/25/05. It appeared
that the general was on active duty. He was shown in uniform commenting
from Iraq. I was exercising on the elliptical without glasses and
couldn't read his name on the 13" tube across the room. I'm sure they
introduced him but I was paying attention to the newspaper until the
discussion moved to the make up of the insurgency.

A more diligent or competent researcher could probably find a transcript
(LexisNexis?). I briefly searched the Foxnews site but didn't find a
reference to that particular story. Sorry, but it's now exceeded my
struggle/fun ratio threshold.

-rick-

Well, based on NOYB's rules, the story did not exist. Nor did your TV,
your exercise machine, glasses, newspaper, and perhaps even your house.
The existence of all these things depends on the name of the person who
was interviewed.

The interpretation of actual facts depends on the person being interviewed,
and the person listening to the interview.

rick tipped his hand about his bias when he called Fox News "Faux News".
That alone gave me doubt as to the veracity of his report.

Fox interviews folks from both ends of the political spectrum. I'd just
like to know some particular biographical facts on this "general" to
determine for myself if he's someone who actually has a clue as to what's
going on...or if he's just repeating party lines to further a particular
agenda.

That's fair, isn't it?

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"-rick-" wrote in message
news
NOYB wrote:
"-rick-" wrote in message

There was a US General on Faux News (of all places) this morning
addressing that very question.


Who was the General? Is he on active duty, or is he a "former General"
who doesn't really have his finger on the pulse over there? Was he
interviewed while in Iraq, or was he sitting in Fox News' broadcast
building?

If you can provide his name (or even the name of the person who
interviewed him) we can read the transcript and see exactly who this
General was and what he actually said (not that I don't believe
somebody like you who refers to Fox News as Faux News). Time to put up
or shut up.

Calling it faux news is a cheap shot but generally deserved.

The story aired between about 9:30 and 10 AM PDT 7/25/05. It appeared
that the general was on active duty. He was shown in uniform commenting
from Iraq. I was exercising on the elliptical without glasses and
couldn't read his name on the 13" tube across the room. I'm sure they
introduced him but I was paying attention to the newspaper until the
discussion moved to the make up of the insurgency.

A more diligent or competent researcher could probably find a transcript
(LexisNexis?). I briefly searched the Foxnews site but didn't find a
reference to that particular story. Sorry, but it's now exceeded my
struggle/fun ratio threshold.

-rick-

Well, based on NOYB's rules, the story did not exist. Nor did your TV,
your exercise machine, glasses, newspaper, and perhaps even your house.
The existence of all these things depends on the name of the person who
was interviewed.

The interpretation of actual facts depends on the person being
interviewed, and the person listening to the interview.

rick tipped his hand about his bias when he called Fox News "Faux News".
That alone gave me doubt as to the veracity of his report.

Fox interviews folks from both ends of the political spectrum. I'd just
like to know some particular biographical facts on this "general" to
determine for myself if he's someone who actually has a clue as to what's
going on...or if he's just repeating party lines to further a particular
agenda.

That's fair, isn't it?




It's fair as long as you also realize that you heard comments from
what's-his-name - the Iraqi guy you're comfortable with, but you were not
actually sitting there wtih him doing the interview. You do realize you
weren't with him, right? He was interviewed by another person, who also may
have asked a set of questions which prompted certain replies.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"-rick-" wrote in message
news NOYB wrote:
"-rick-" wrote in message

There was a US General on Faux News (of all places) this morning
addressing that very question.


Who was the General? Is he on active duty, or is he a "former
General" who doesn't really have his finger on the pulse over there?
Was he interviewed while in Iraq, or was he sitting in Fox News'
broadcast building?

If you can provide his name (or even the name of the person who
interviewed him) we can read the transcript and see exactly who this
General was and what he actually said (not that I don't believe
somebody like you who refers to Fox News as Faux News). Time to put
up or shut up.

Calling it faux news is a cheap shot but generally deserved.

The story aired between about 9:30 and 10 AM PDT 7/25/05. It appeared
that the general was on active duty. He was shown in uniform commenting
from Iraq. I was exercising on the elliptical without glasses and
couldn't read his name on the 13" tube across the room. I'm sure they
introduced him but I was paying attention to the newspaper until the
discussion moved to the make up of the insurgency.

A more diligent or competent researcher could probably find a
transcript (LexisNexis?). I briefly searched the Foxnews site but
didn't find a reference to that particular story. Sorry, but it's now
exceeded my struggle/fun ratio threshold.

-rick-

Well, based on NOYB's rules, the story did not exist. Nor did your TV,
your exercise machine, glasses, newspaper, and perhaps even your house.
The existence of all these things depends on the name of the person who
was interviewed.

The interpretation of actual facts depends on the person being
interviewed, and the person listening to the interview.

rick tipped his hand about his bias when he called Fox News "Faux News".
That alone gave me doubt as to the veracity of his report.

Fox interviews folks from both ends of the political spectrum. I'd just
like to know some particular biographical facts on this "general" to
determine for myself if he's someone who actually has a clue as to what's
going on...or if he's just repeating party lines to further a particular
agenda.

That's fair, isn't it?




It's fair as long as you also realize that you heard comments from
what's-his-name - the Iraqi guy you're comfortable with, but you were not
actually sitting there wtih him doing the interview. You do realize you
weren't with him, right? He was interviewed by another person, who also
may have asked a set of questions which prompted certain replies.



Read the interview:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8335871/

Gregory was trying to get him to say exactly what you're trying to say...and
al-Jaafari stood by his guns, and turned Gregory upside down and inside out.

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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"-rick-" wrote in message
news NOYB wrote:
"-rick-" wrote in message

There was a US General on Faux News (of all places) this morning
addressing that very question.


Who was the General? Is he on active duty, or is he a "former
General" who doesn't really have his finger on the pulse over there?
Was he interviewed while in Iraq, or was he sitting in Fox News'
broadcast building?

If you can provide his name (or even the name of the person who
interviewed him) we can read the transcript and see exactly who this
General was and what he actually said (not that I don't believe
somebody like you who refers to Fox News as Faux News). Time to put
up or shut up.

Calling it faux news is a cheap shot but generally deserved.

The story aired between about 9:30 and 10 AM PDT 7/25/05. It appeared
that the general was on active duty. He was shown in uniform
commenting from Iraq. I was exercising on the elliptical without
glasses and couldn't read his name on the 13" tube across the room.
I'm sure they introduced him but I was paying attention to the
newspaper until the discussion moved to the make up of the insurgency.

A more diligent or competent researcher could probably find a
transcript (LexisNexis?). I briefly searched the Foxnews site but
didn't find a reference to that particular story. Sorry, but it's now
exceeded my struggle/fun ratio threshold.

-rick-

Well, based on NOYB's rules, the story did not exist. Nor did your TV,
your exercise machine, glasses, newspaper, and perhaps even your house.
The existence of all these things depends on the name of the person who
was interviewed.

The interpretation of actual facts depends on the person being
interviewed, and the person listening to the interview.

rick tipped his hand about his bias when he called Fox News "Faux News".
That alone gave me doubt as to the veracity of his report.

Fox interviews folks from both ends of the political spectrum. I'd just
like to know some particular biographical facts on this "general" to
determine for myself if he's someone who actually has a clue as to
what's going on...or if he's just repeating party lines to further a
particular agenda.

That's fair, isn't it?




It's fair as long as you also realize that you heard comments from
what's-his-name - the Iraqi guy you're comfortable with, but you were not
actually sitting there wtih him doing the interview. You do realize you
weren't with him, right? He was interviewed by another person, who also
may have asked a set of questions which prompted certain replies.



Read the interview:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8335871/

Gregory was trying to get him to say exactly what you're trying to
say...and al-Jaafari stood by his guns, and turned Gregory upside down and
inside out.



Then, why do you suppose that actual American military officials in Iraq
contradict al-Jaafari??? He's not wandering the streets with a gun in his
hand, and an American army general probably isn't, either.

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news

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"-rick-" wrote in message
news NOYB wrote:
"-rick-" wrote in message

There was a US General on Faux News (of all places) this morning
addressing that very question.


Who was the General? Is he on active duty, or is he a "former
General" who doesn't really have his finger on the pulse over there?
Was he interviewed while in Iraq, or was he sitting in Fox News'
broadcast building?

If you can provide his name (or even the name of the person who
interviewed him) we can read the transcript and see exactly who this
General was and what he actually said (not that I don't believe
somebody like you who refers to Fox News as Faux News). Time to put
up or shut up.

Calling it faux news is a cheap shot but generally deserved.

The story aired between about 9:30 and 10 AM PDT 7/25/05. It appeared
that the general was on active duty. He was shown in uniform
commenting from Iraq. I was exercising on the elliptical without
glasses and couldn't read his name on the 13" tube across the room.
I'm sure they introduced him but I was paying attention to the
newspaper until the discussion moved to the make up of the
insurgency.

A more diligent or competent researcher could probably find a
transcript (LexisNexis?). I briefly searched the Foxnews site but
didn't find a reference to that particular story. Sorry, but it's now
exceeded my struggle/fun ratio threshold.

-rick-

Well, based on NOYB's rules, the story did not exist. Nor did your TV,
your exercise machine, glasses, newspaper, and perhaps even your
house. The existence of all these things depends on the name of the
person who was interviewed.

The interpretation of actual facts depends on the person being
interviewed, and the person listening to the interview.

rick tipped his hand about his bias when he called Fox News "Faux
News". That alone gave me doubt as to the veracity of his report.

Fox interviews folks from both ends of the political spectrum. I'd
just like to know some particular biographical facts on this "general"
to determine for myself if he's someone who actually has a clue as to
what's going on...or if he's just repeating party lines to further a
particular agenda.

That's fair, isn't it?




It's fair as long as you also realize that you heard comments from
what's-his-name - the Iraqi guy you're comfortable with, but you were
not actually sitting there wtih him doing the interview. You do realize
you weren't with him, right? He was interviewed by another person, who
also may have asked a set of questions which prompted certain replies.



Read the interview:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8335871/

Gregory was trying to get him to say exactly what you're trying to
say...and al-Jaafari stood by his guns, and turned Gregory upside down
and inside out.



Then, why do you suppose that actual American military officials in Iraq
contradict al-Jaafari???

Which officials? Send me a quote from one of your sources.

"NOYB" wrote in message
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Then, why do you suppose that actual American military officials in Iraq
contradict al-Jaafari???

Which officials? Send me a quote from one of your sources.


Save that bull**** for someone else. We've been through this.

1) They're real. Rick explained that to you in his message from earlier
today. Like me, he didn't take notes just for you.

2) If names were provided, it wouldn't matter, since you're not likely to be
acquainted with any of them.

3) If you had sources describing these peoples' attitudes, they'd be
suspect. Why would anyone take the time to comment on a certain general's
views, unless the writer had some bizarre agenda?

So: Why do you doubt the views of high ranking officials posted in Iraq? Or,
to put it another way: Why do you not support our troops?

NOYB wrote:

The interpretation of actual facts depends on the person being interviewed,
and the person listening to the interview.

rick tipped his hand about his bias when he called Fox News "Faux News".
That alone gave me doubt as to the veracity of his report.

I have an opinion or bias regarding the accuracy of Fox news in general.
I have absolutely no bias regarding the make up of the insurgency.

-rick-

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
It's a bill that calls for mandatory military *training* and *education*
for all males aged 18-22. There is no provision in the bill to transfer
a trainee to active duty and ship him over seas...although there is a
provision to complete the training in a "national service program".

It's hardly a "draft".

http://tinyurl.com/c4x3f


It should be defeated on its face. Mandatory "military" training indeed,
and only for males? B.S.

We need a draft.


Harry,
Why do we need a draft?