Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 6 Jul 2005 08:34:47 -0700, wrote:



Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 6 Jul 2005 07:39:13 -0700, wrote:

V8 outboard? sounds crazy having that hang on the transom.

You have to remember - these are extremely light, high rev engines
we're discussing here and only in theory. To produce that kind of
horsepower in a light weight engine, you need revs - lots of 'em.

not necessarily. A charged motor will have ample torque.

I'm not arguing that - I agree. But with normal fuel injection
breathing normal air, you need high revs.

thats true. Not pretty for a boat motor

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HarryKrause wrote:
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V8 outboard? sounds crazy having that hang on the transom.

Whats wrong with a light supercharged V6???

Matt


I prefer the large-displacement, naturally aspirated approach to
horsepower in gasoline engines.

me too, except when it hangs on my transom. Then lighter is better.
which a charged motor will deliver

Suzuki large-displacement DF250: 580 lbs.
Mercury supercharged Verado 250: 649 lbs.

Lighter *is* better!

I'm glad! I have a Douglas Skater and want to upgrade to a newer engine! The
4strokes are just too heavy.

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Woodchuck wrote:
Rumor has it Mercury is working on a 300hp 300XS optimax

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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...will be offered by who?

No turbocharger or supercharger...just a V6 or V8 outboard, four stroke,
300 shp.

My local Yamaha dealer says he thinks in three years or so.

I'm guessing Suzuki.



Yes, I heard that, too, but it isn't a four stroke.


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I think it's going to be a hot rod version of their present 250 which is a
3l V6.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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Woodchuck wrote:
Rumor has it Mercury is working on a 300hp 300XS optimax

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
...will be offered by who?

No turbocharger or supercharger...just a V6 or V8 outboard, four stroke,
300 shp.

My local Yamaha dealer says he thinks in three years or so.

I'm guessing Suzuki.



Yes, I heard that, too, but it isn't a four stroke.


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On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:29:45 -0400, "Woodchuck"
wrote:

I'm glad! I have a Douglas Skater and want to upgrade to a newer engine! The
4strokes are just too heavy.

Take a look at Evinrude E-TEC.

Wave of the future and that sort of thing.

How small? My SUV has a 4.4L engine with 315HP.

Dan


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 07:49:44 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:33:26 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:


...will be offered by who?

No turbocharger or supercharger...just a V6 or V8 outboard, four stroke,
300 shp.

My local Yamaha dealer says he thinks in three years or so.

I'm guessing Suzuki.

You'd guess right and I heard form a normally fairly clued in type
that it's next year.

Suzuki seems the most adventurous. Doubt I'd buy one, though; the
engines seem ok, but most of the Suzuki dealerships I have seen seem
marginal. The extended warranty Suzuki gives away isn't much good if you
can't find a dealer who handles it properly and on a timely basis.


The Squeezeuki mechanic over in Rhode Island is pretty good actually.
He seems to have a real handle on four stroke outboards.

The word that I heard is that some of the 300 hp tech is coming right
from the motorcycle side of the business - small V-8 producing
horsepower via the high rev route.

Dunno - we'll see.

On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 23:02:14 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:

How small? My SUV has a 4.4L engine with 315HP.

No idea - its' all speculation.

5400 RPM's. Torque is 324 l/f @ 3600 RPM's and 32 valve engine.

Seems like the 4.3L V6's could get 300 HP but they were rated around 190.

Dan


HarryKrause wrote:

Dan Krueger wrote:

How small? My SUV has a 4.4L engine with 315HP.

Dan


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 07:49:44 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:33:26 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:


...will be offered by who?

No turbocharger or supercharger...just a V6 or V8 outboard, four
stroke, 300 shp.

My local Yamaha dealer says he thinks in three years or so.

I'm guessing Suzuki.


You'd guess right and I heard form a normally fairly clued in type
that it's next year.


Suzuki seems the most adventurous. Doubt I'd buy one, though; the
engines seem ok, but most of the Suzuki dealerships I have seen seem
marginal. The extended warranty Suzuki gives away isn't much good if
you can't find a dealer who handles it properly and on a timely basis.



The Squeezeuki mechanic over in Rhode Island is pretty good actually.
He seems to have a real handle on four stroke outboards.

The word that I heard is that some of the 300 hp tech is coming right
from the motorcycle side of the business - small V-8 producing
horsepower via the high rev route.

Dunno - we'll see.



That's a lotta output for a truck engine; how fast is it spinning to
produce that 315 hp? I think my vehicle's engine is a little larger than
than that, but produces about 80 less hp, or something like that.