"Jack Goff" wrote in message
m...


But, you may want to be careful about
pushing this theory any further. The origins come back to bite the last 3
presidents right in the ass.

...then goes right back out.

It's not a "theory" that the Chinese are increasing their usage of
petroleum
at a rate far surpassing any other countries.

OK...let me lead you gently by the nose, moron. Their petro demand has
increased because they have cash to buy cars that use petro. They have this
cash because.....??? It's the end of June, moron. Parents (again) are
saying the NY State Regents exams are too hard for their babies. Can you
complete THIS essay question?

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:50:01 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:58:24 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:41:02 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:10:29 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:85vrb19mapgng3gfeo3c1g2nsqqbfpgvod@4ax .com...
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:46:06 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 00:03:50 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:58:39 -0400, John H

wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:23:32 GMT, Don White

wrote:

John H wrote:



Better let Harry do the talking, and you do the follow up.
Works
better that
way.


Ok...let's substitute 'high powered yellow Mustang' for SUV....
make more sense?

I'm getting over 21mpg in the Mustang. Not bad. It's not really
high
powered
though, only a 4.6L.

I thought your Mustang was a GT?

It is. The GT has a 4.6L V-8, with an advertised 300hp. I don't do a
lot
of drag
racing though. (Although, I *know* it'll do 110mph in 3rd gear -
without
redlining.) I've only done that once. That was enough.

Fuel Injected? I didn't know you could push the Ford standard 4.6 L
to 300 hp without altering something major. Supposedly this is
Ford's
standard engine package across the product line.

Interesting.


http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...05/244450.html

http://www.fast-autos.net/ford/05fordmustang.html

And you can push it to 500 hp

http://www.tuningnews.net/news/04110...g-projects.php


Thanks for the URL's, Jim. All that good news fluff makes me feel
better
about
spending the bucks on my toy!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

The fluff did it's job! Not a bad word to say about the Mustang. I am
sure
you would agree that there are absolutely no down sides to the car to
report
to would be buyers. Heck, it is all about "looking good and going
fast".......sort of like a certain *review* on a SeaRay posted here.
;-)


Well, I have had a new transmission and a new gas tank put in the thing.
But
that's minor, and the dealer gave me no squawk about it.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Failure of those *minor parts* (LOL) do not belong in a fluff review.
It
is all about "going fast and looking good" to at least on person here when
doing a review.


With my GT, it *is* all about going fast and looking good!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Don't you ruin that illusion once you get into the car?

Just kidding John. ;-)


Hell no! I put on my black "Mustang GT" cap with the pony on it, my driving
gloves, some big sunglasses, and no one can see my gray hair and wrinkles!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:05:10 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Jack Goff" wrote in message
om...


But, you may want to be careful about
pushing this theory any further. The origins come back to bite the last 3
presidents right in the ass.

...then goes right back out.

It's not a "theory" that the Chinese are increasing their usage of
petroleum
at a rate far surpassing any other countries.

OK...let me lead you gently by the nose, moron. Their petro demand has
increased because they have cash to buy cars that use petro. They have this
cash because.....??? It's the end of June, moron. Parents (again) are
saying the NY State Regents exams are too hard for their babies. Can you
complete THIS essay question?


They have the cash because they are selling things? Have you been to WalMart
lately?

And it's not (yet) autos that are using petro at such high rates, it's used to
manufacture all that stuff that we used to make that Clinton outsourced!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H wrote:


Tom, here's what I'm looking forward to in a couple years:

http://www.stangnet.com/2005-Mustang...00-by-SVT.html


Yep...live it up till the oil runs out! Should make a great lawn
ornament after that.

"Doug Kanter" wrote:

OK...let me lead you gently by the nose, moron. Their petro demand has
increased because they have cash to buy cars that use petro. They have
this
cash because.....???

Like I said befo

"How in the hell do you think they manage to make *everything* that
Wal-Mart sells? By rubbing two sticks together? Sheeesh..."

Nearly everything that is manufactured requires petroleum, and plenty of it.
All of this manufacturing that China is doing is using more petroleum, and
is also providing jobs. Those jobs provide income, which lets their
workforce acquire cars and all the other trappings of a modern society for
the first time. Then they use even more petro for their own manufactured
goods and gas for their cars.

You're the one who asked: "Please indicate specifics as to WHERE you believe
this increased demand is coming from. If you choose to repeat "China...", as
others have, please provide data."

I've lead *you* by the nose, provided specifics, and you still don't seem to
get it, moron. Do you *now* understand *where* the increased demand for
petroleum is coming from? Or are you stupid?

Last chance... If you disagree that it's China, feel free to provide links
and specific data that support your opinion of where the increased demand is
coming from.

"ed" wrote:

In some engines you can obtain a higher horsepower by inserting a bigger
micro chip. I know they do this on the big rigs via the ecm. Dont know if
this is how ford does it or not. Back in the old days you would have to
get
a bigger cam, run solid lifters and machine the head to obtain that kind
of
horsepower.


I guess it depends on what time period you define as "the old days", but it
wasn't difficult at all to get 300hp in the late '60's through '71. My 1970
M-code 351 Cleveland 4V was factory rated a conservative 300hp with cast
iron exhaust manifolds and hydraulic flat tappet cam and lifters. The
factory cam had a slight burble, but no big lope and it had great vacuum
(something a large, lopey cam does not).

It *did* have 11.5:1 compression, so it required premium fuel in 1970!
Unfortunately, today's premium in nowhere near as good... so it's octane
booster or racing gas when I drive it now.

"Jack Goff" wrote in message
m...


I've lead *you* by the nose, provided specifics, and you still don't seem
to
get it, moron. Do you *now* understand *where* the increased demand for
petroleum is coming from? Or are you stupid?


We are their biggest market. If you have a moment, perhaps you could explain
the dangers of this arrangement to your president.





Naturally, the common people do not want war, but they can always be brought
to the bidding of the leaders. Tell them they are being attacked and
denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and endangering the country.
It works the same in every country. -Herman Goering

Old days is before 1974. With your 351 cleavlend, it came with a 4 bolt main
and is rated for 300+ hp. The newer engines, ones that has ECM's can
increase hp by simply installing a new computer chip. On Cummins we did this
several times to trucks, hooked it up to the computer and increase hp in it.

Ed
"Jack Goff" wrote in message
m...

"ed" wrote:

In some engines you can obtain a higher horsepower by inserting a bigger
micro chip. I know they do this on the big rigs via the ecm. Dont know if
this is how ford does it or not. Back in the old days you would have to
get
a bigger cam, run solid lifters and machine the head to obtain that kind
of
horsepower.


I guess it depends on what time period you define as "the old days", but
it
wasn't difficult at all to get 300hp in the late '60's through '71. My
1970
M-code 351 Cleveland 4V was factory rated a conservative 300hp with cast
iron exhaust manifolds and hydraulic flat tappet cam and lifters. The
factory cam had a slight burble, but no big lope and it had great vacuum
(something a large, lopey cam does not).

It *did* have 11.5:1 compression, so it required premium fuel in 1970!
Unfortunately, today's premium in nowhere near as good... so it's octane
booster or racing gas when I drive it now.

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:36:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Jack Goff" wrote in message
om...


I've lead *you* by the nose, provided specifics, and you still don't seem
to
get it, moron. Do you *now* understand *where* the increased demand for
petroleum is coming from? Or are you stupid?


We are their biggest market. If you have a moment, perhaps you could explain
the dangers of this arrangement to your president.





Naturally, the common people do not want war, but they can always be brought
to the bidding of the leaders. Tell them they are being attacked and
denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and endangering the country.
It works the same in every country. -Herman Goering

Doug, why do you find name-calling necessary? Do you feel it legitimizes your
argument?

You, Kevin, and Harry are one and the same. Goodbye.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"Doug Kanter" wrote:


We are their biggest market. If you have a moment, perhaps you could
explain
the dangers of this arrangement to your president.


I don't disagree that the fact that we are buying tons of Chinese crap is a
problem. I would also hope that you understand that the problem did not
start under *your* President Bush (he is your President as well, unless you
do not live in the US) , and will not end under him either.

You do realize that is not the question you were asking, right? You were
doubting everyone that place the location of the "increased demand on oil"
as China. You never asked *why* that happened, you only asked that people
back up *where* they said it was happening.

You really need to work on your communication skills, as you seem to be
having a hard time relating to everyone. We are not mind-readers.