On Wed, 12 May 2004 16:54:10 +0000, NOYB wrote:


No, I pointed out that oil is one of the major reasons we went into Iraq
before Syria or Iran. But it's not *the* reason.

"American intelligence and State Department officials have told me that by
early 2002 Syria had emerged as one of the C.I.A.'s most effective
intelligence allies in the fight against Al Qaeda, providing an outpouring
of information that came to an end only with the invasion of Iraq."

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030728fa_fact

On Wed, 12 May 2004 14:23:43 +0000, NOYB wrote:


While al-Zarqawi is definitely anti-American, some analysts dispute that
he is al Qaeda.

Your referenced website seems to refute your claim that al Zaqawi isn't
linked to al Qaeda. Do you have any others that say he isn't al Qaeda?

Uhh, I never claimed any such thing. I posted a link that said, amongst
other things, "...Zarqawi's historical rivalry with Bin Laden." No doubt,
Zarqawi's and bin Ladens anti-American aganda is similar and dangerous,
but the jury is still out on whether he *is* al Qaeda.


Iraq was violating the no-fly zones. Nevertheless, you don't need to fly
airplanes over northeastern Iraq in order to maintain contact with the
psycho operating up there.

True, but Zarqawi's linkage to the CIA is a lot clearer that to Saddam.

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 16:54:10 +0000, NOYB wrote:


No, I pointed out that oil is one of the major reasons we went into Iraq
before Syria or Iran. But it's not *the* reason.

"American intelligence and State Department officials have told me that by
early 2002 Syria had emerged as one of the C.I.A.'s most effective
intelligence allies in the fight against Al Qaeda, providing an outpouring
of information that came to an end only with the invasion of Iraq."

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030728fa_fact

"The intelligence coöperation on Al Qaeda was important and effective," said
Martin Indyk, who served as Ambassador to Israel in the Clinton
Administration and is now director of the Saban Center. "But the Syrians
thought it would compensate for all their other games with Iraq and the
Palestinian terror organizations, and it doesn't."

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 14:23:43 +0000, NOYB wrote:


While al-Zarqawi is definitely anti-American, some analysts dispute
that
he is al Qaeda.

Your referenced website seems to refute your claim that al Zaqawi isn't
linked to al Qaeda. Do you have any others that say he isn't al Qaeda?

Uhh, I never claimed any such thing. I posted a link that said, amongst
other things, "...Zarqawi's historical rivalry with Bin Laden." No doubt,
Zarqawi's and bin Ladens anti-American aganda is similar and dangerous,
but the jury is still out on whether he *is* al Qaeda.


Iraq was violating the no-fly zones. Nevertheless, you don't need to
fly
airplanes over northeastern Iraq in order to maintain contact with the
psycho operating up there.

True, but Zarqawi's linkage to the CIA is a lot clearer that to Saddam.

Not in September '01.

John

America refused to negotiate, Mr. Berg is now dead.

America could negotiate, Say yes we will make the trade.
Meet with the terrorists to make the trade, and kill every one of them.

We would have gotten Mr. Berg back.


"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 02:31:00 GMT, wrote:


You think we should negotiate with these folks? You think these people are
rationale enough to make and keep an agreement? Do you think America
hasn't been
looking for the individual who committed this murder?

How do you know what America was doing?

John H

On Thu, 13 May 2004 17:52:27 GMT, wrote:

John

America refused to negotiate, Mr. Berg is now dead.

America could negotiate, Say yes we will make the trade.
Meet with the terrorists to make the trade, and kill every one of them.

We would have gotten Mr. Berg back.


"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 02:31:00 GMT, wrote:


You think we should negotiate with these folks? You think these people are
rationale enough to make and keep an agreement? Do you think America
hasn't been
looking for the individual who committed this murder?

How do you know what America was doing?

John H


At which time the administration would be ripped for negotiating with
terrorists, telling lies, and murder. And we would still not have saved Berg,
who would most likely not have been alive anyway. You seem to think we're
dealing with honorable people.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

With the current administration??? I have given up on any of this crap being
honorable

"John H" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 May 2004 17:52:27 GMT, wrote:

John

America refused to negotiate, Mr. Berg is now dead.

America could negotiate, Say yes we will make the trade.
Meet with the terrorists to make the trade, and kill every one of them.

We would have gotten Mr. Berg back.


"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 02:31:00 GMT, wrote:


You think we should negotiate with these folks? You think these people
are
rationale enough to make and keep an agreement? Do you think America
hasn't been
looking for the individual who committed this murder?

How do you know what America was doing?

John H


At which time the administration would be ripped for negotiating with
terrorists, telling lies, and murder. And we would still not have saved
Berg,
who would most likely not have been alive anyway. You seem to think we're
dealing with honorable people.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H wrote:

On Thu, 13 May 2004 17:52:27 GMT, wrote:


John

America refused to negotiate, Mr. Berg is now dead.

America could negotiate, Say yes we will make the trade.
Meet with the terrorists to make the trade, and kill every one of them.

We would have gotten Mr. Berg back.


"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 02:31:00 GMT, wrote:


You think we should negotiate with these folks? You think these people are
rationale enough to make and keep an agreement? Do you think America

hasn't been

looking for the individual who committed this murder?

How do you know what America was doing?

John H


At which time the administration would be ripped for negotiating with
terrorists, telling lies, and murder. And we would still not have saved Berg,
who would most likely not have been alive anyway. You seem to think we're
dealing with honorable people.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!



Uh...The Bush mis-Administration is anything but honorable.

On Thu, 13 May 2004 19:08:25 GMT, wrote:

With the current administration??? I have given up on any of this crap being
honorable

With Al Quaeda. I'm hoping you are not so dense as to have missed that.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

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You right winged jack ass, September 11, 2001 was done by al-Qaida... What
does that have to do with an unjust war in Iraq?

Not a freaking thing.

Anyone who thinks there has not been connection and coordination between
Iraq and al Qaida is a naive fool.