I have begun the examination of the small leak when my boat has a normal
amount of water down underneath that the plug drians out.

Here is a view of the step down area with the ruined carpet from always
being wet:
http://home.comcast.net/~ree-yees/100_0406.jpg
The water is leaking out from around this board. It did have screws in it.

Here is another view from inside the cuddy:
http://home.comcast.net/~ree-yees/100_0407.jpg

Now here is the shoker of whats under that board, a big opening!
http://home.comcast.net/~ree-yees/100_0410.jpg
That is a TUBE your seeing to move water from the back of the boat to the
front I guess but this is obviously where my leak is coming from.

When I tip my boat forward and there is water underneath it must splash up
from here.

Here is a closeup of that area:
http://home.comcast.net/~ree-yees/100_0409.jpg

What do you guys recomend? Should I plug that pipe or should I sea up the
hole with something better than a board?

--Cameron

Note when you pull the carpet back this is not a man made or busted hole it
is the way the craft was designed I guess. The metal is rounded and smooth
right here.

--C

Here is two pictures with the carpet pulled up:
http://home.comcast.net/~ree-yees/001.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~ree-yees/002.jpg

You can see that all of it is fiberglass and is obviously made this way. Im
assuming its a overflow tub for the back area and maybe water is sloshing up
into this area?

What do you people think? Im going to leave the carpet out when I take her
out tomorrow and try to observe whats going on. Plugging the hole woudl
stop this problem but if Im taking on too much water then I woudl need this
over flow.

Also like I said before when I take out the drain plug after 2 hours of
boating there is only 5-10 seconds of water coming out. That is without
running the bilge pump the entire time.

Thanks!
Cameron

"Ree-Yees" wrote in message
...
Note when you pull the carpet back this is not a man made or busted hole
it
is the way the craft was designed I guess. The metal is rounded and
smooth
right here.

--C

"Ree-Yees" wrote
What do you people think?

I think you may be approaching this from the wrong end. My guess is that
little well and tube are designed to do the opposite of what you're
describing. That is to say, when you get water in that low spot up front,
it's supposed to drain through the tube down into the bilge where it can be
pumped out. Otherwise, it has nowhere to go. (I'm assuming that when the
boat is in the water, the bow end of the tube is higher than the stern end.)
I'd check around in the bilge and see why there's so much water getting in
there that it's running forward when it's on the trailer. That doesn't seem
right.

I can't tell much from your pictures. But I think I know what happened.
I have a 1998 Bayliner bowrider: where a cuddy has a V berth, I have two
seats with storage underneath. I also have a small storage space in the bow.
All three storage spaces drain into the water ski compartment. The waterski
compartment drains into the bilge. When my boat is on the trailer, the
lowest part is towards the forward end of the water ski compartment. When I
take any water on board, or get water inside while washing down, there is
always about 1" of water in there. I have to extend the jack stand to it's
limit to drain it.
I suspect your cuddy is very similar in design and that the drain is
blocked, obstructing a free flow of water to the bilge where it can be
drained or pumped overboard. I check mine periodically with a fish tape, the
kind used for pulling electrical wires through walls and ceilings. It
doesn't take much in the way of leaf particles, dirt and sand to block the
drain. It doesn't take much to clear them, either.
Hopefully, any wood in the bottom of the boat is still well covered with
fiberglass and protected from the water. At least part of the floor of the
cuddy must be damaged from years of water, but it may not be that difficult
to cut away the damaged part and replace it.

"Ree-Yees" wrote in message
...
I have begun the examination of the small leak when my boat has a normal
amount of water down underneath that the plug drians out.

Here is a view of the step down area with the ruined carpet from always
being wet:
http://home.comcast.net/~ree-yees/100_0406.jpg
The water is leaking out from around this board. It did have screws in
it.

Here is another view from inside the cuddy:
http://home.comcast.net/~ree-yees/100_0407.jpg

Now here is the shoker of whats under that board, a big opening!
http://home.comcast.net/~ree-yees/100_0410.jpg
That is a TUBE your seeing to move water from the back of the boat to the
front I guess but this is obviously where my leak is coming from.

When I tip my boat forward and there is water underneath it must splash up
from here.

Here is a closeup of that area:
http://home.comcast.net/~ree-yees/100_0409.jpg

What do you guys recomend? Should I plug that pipe or should I sea up the
hole with something better than a board?

--Cameron

From your description, that "tube" sounds like a limber hole. It should not be
blocked up. It should be open to allow water to drain aft.

"William G. Andersen" wrote
the drain is blocked, obstructing a free flow of water to the bilge

That's a distinct possibility. That tube looks pretty big in the photos. It
could hold a fair amount of water if the back end of it is stopped up: When
the boat is floating the water could be stored in the tube but when it's on
the trailer it could flow forward into the floor. Fishing something through
the tube to see if it's blocked sounds like a good move.

Ive tried snaking a cable line down through there and I got it about 3 feet.
Im going to borrow someones drain snake today so I can get it further.
Where should I look for the other end of this tube?

If it is clogged what can I safely pour down it? Some fiberglass draino?
:-)

Thanks!
--Cameron
"Joe Blizzard" wrote in message
...
"William G. Andersen" wrote
the drain is blocked, obstructing a free flow of water to the bilge

That's a distinct possibility. That tube looks pretty big in the photos.
It
could hold a fair amount of water if the back end of it is stopped up:
When
the boat is floating the water could be stored in the tube but when it's
on
the trailer it could flow forward into the floor. Fishing something
through
the tube to see if it's blocked sounds like a good move.

The drain in my boat looks like a length of PVC pipe from the aft end of the
ski locker to the forward end of the engine compartment. (My boat has a
sterndrive.) If you can't clear it from one end, try from the other. I don't
know about pouring cleaners in there. You might try blasting it with a
garden hose, but if you can't get a snake through I don't think water would
clear it.

"Ree-Yees" wrote in message
...
Ive tried snaking a cable line down through there and I got it about 3
feet.
Im going to borrow someones drain snake today so I can get it further.
Where should I look for the other end of this tube?

If it is clogged what can I safely pour down it? Some fiberglass draino?
:-)

Thanks!
--Cameron
"Joe Blizzard" wrote in message
...
"William G. Andersen" wrote
the drain is blocked, obstructing a free flow of water to the bilge

That's a distinct possibility. That tube looks pretty big in the photos.
It
could hold a fair amount of water if the back end of it is stopped up:
When
the boat is floating the water could be stored in the tube but when it's
on
the trailer it could flow forward into the floor. Fishing something
through
the tube to see if it's blocked sounds like a good move.

You can use chemicals provided that you check for raw wood contact (frame).
If noe you can use it. Most likely you'll find leaves, dirt etc.Try to open
it from any end and flush it throughly. You can use some bleach 1:5 (not too
strong) solution or Tilex to kill mildew and rot. The water has to be able
to flow freely to the bilge. Use water hose to flush the dirt out.


"William G. Andersen" wrote in message
news:4i7nc.32851$6L3.21237@fed1read05...
The drain in my boat looks like a length of PVC pipe from the aft end of
the
ski locker to the forward end of the engine compartment. (My boat has a
sterndrive.) If you can't clear it from one end, try from the other. I
don't
know about pouring cleaners in there. You might try blasting it with a
garden hose, but if you can't get a snake through I don't think water
would
clear it.

"Ree-Yees" wrote in message
...
Ive tried snaking a cable line down through there and I got it about 3
feet.
Im going to borrow someones drain snake today so I can get it further.
Where should I look for the other end of this tube?

If it is clogged what can I safely pour down it? Some fiberglass
draino?
:-)

Thanks!
--Cameron
"Joe Blizzard" wrote in message
...
"William G. Andersen" wrote
the drain is blocked, obstructing a free flow of water to the bilge

That's a distinct possibility. That tube looks pretty big in the
photos.
It
could hold a fair amount of water if the back end of it is stopped up:
When
the boat is floating the water could be stored in the tube but when
it's
on
the trailer it could flow forward into the floor. Fishing something
through
the tube to see if it's blocked sounds like a good move.