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Welding our trailer - pics
Links are to some pics of welding our trailer: http://tinyurl.com/3apc6 or http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=...21b34674116540 |
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Welding our trailer - pics
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:50:01 -0500, "Gary Warner"
wrote: Links are to some pics of welding our trailer: http://tinyurl.com/3apc6 or http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=...21b34674116540 Looks good. How much do you figure all that steel weighs? [1] Later, Tom S. Woodstock, CT ---------- "The wildness and adventure that are in fishing still recommend it to me." Henry David Thoreau "Walden" (1854) [1] I love those old Hercules powered welders - I have one myself. Ok, yours might not be a Hercules, but I'll bet close enough. :) |
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Welding our trailer - pics
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote Looks good. How much do you figure all that steel weighs? Good question. The side-rails and cross-members are 5" channel that is about 6.7 lbs/foot. The tongue is 5"x3" tube that is about 9.4 lbs/foot. Some rough calculations: Steel: 600 lbs Axels 200 lbs each = 400 lbs So that's 1000 lbs. When we add 5 tires (one spare) the bow-stop post, winch, jack, spare tire post, actuator, steel-risers, bunks, etc, we'll probably be at 1200 to 1400 lbs. ~ When we were looking to have one custom made for us, that is the range they estimated also. Our trailer is probably a little heaver / over built. But since it's not a "production" thing and since we won't put that many miles on it, a little extra weight is not much of an issue. I don't know what type/engine that welder has. I know my dad has had that thing for 30 or more years. Tom S. Woodstock, CT Later. |
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Welding our trailer - pics
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:33:32 -0500, "Gary Warner"
wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote Looks good. How much do you figure all that steel weighs? Good question. The side-rails and cross-members are 5" channel that is about 6.7 lbs/foot. The tongue is 5"x3" tube that is about 9.4 lbs/foot. Some rough calculations: Steel: 600 lbs Axels 200 lbs each = 400 lbs So that's 1000 lbs. When we add 5 tires (one spare) the bow-stop post, winch, jack, spare tire post, actuator, steel-risers, bunks, etc, we'll probably be at 1200 to 1400 lbs. ~ When we were looking to have one custom made for us, that is the range they estimated also. Our trailer is probably a little heaver / over built. But since it's not a "production" thing and since we won't put that many miles on it, a little extra weight is not much of an issue. Are you going to paint it? Later, Tom S. Woodstock, CT ---------- "The wildness and adventure that are in fishing still recommend it to me." Henry David Thoreau "Walden" (1854) |
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Welding our trailer - pics
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message Are you going to paint it? Yep, gonna paint it. Haven't yet but planning to contact some local body shops to see what prices why have (should be a relatively simple job compared to a car). We've also considered painting it ourselves with spray cans - but I think a pro can do a nicer looking job and maybe provide some paint that lasts longer + more protection. At one point I also contacted some people that do color-galvanizing. We've decided we'ld rather repaint every X years if we have to then spend the money for the color-galvy - but it would be nice. |
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Welding our trailer - pics
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:02:01 -0500, "Gary Warner"
wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message Are you going to paint it? Yep, gonna paint it. Haven't yet but planning to contact some local body shops to see what prices why have (should be a relatively simple job compared to a car). We've also considered painting it ourselves with spray cans - but I think a pro can do a nicer looking job and maybe provide some paint that lasts longer + more protection. At one point I also contacted some people that do color-galvanizing. We've decided we'ld rather repaint every X years if we have to then spend the money for the color-galvy - but it would be nice. Ok, I'm going to throw caution to the wind here and recommend something that really worked for me. http://www.por15.com/ When I finished restoring my '50 International L-110 pickup ten or so years ago, I used this as an undercoat for the finished paint to prevent rust problem from arising from the repair sheet metal/old metal problems so common with International restorations. I don't have one single rust spot anywhere and the truck is outside all summer long - not even in the bed of the truck. There are also a couple of nicks in the top coat and no rust there either - none on the hinges for the doors and none on the frame which was sand blasted and primered with this stuff. If I ever did a restoration again, I'd use this stuff - it honestly works. Later, Tom S. Woodstock, CT ---------- "The wildness and adventure that are in fishing still recommend it to me." Henry David Thoreau "Walden" (1854) |
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Welding our trailer - pics
Don't paint it!!! Galvanize it. I have galvanized trailers that I built 20
years ago that are just as good today as they were when I built them. When you build with new materials it's only necessary to sandblast the weld areas only and the cost of galvanizing is no more and sometimes less than the cost of a good paint job. I galvanize every trailer that I build and plan to keep, and I try to convince people, that I build trailers for, to galvanize also. I pay around $38 per 100 lbs for galvanizing so most trailers can be done for $300 to $400. Of course I have to add any blasting that has to be done and transportation costs, but you would do those yourself. The galvanizer that I use (Southwest Galvanizing in Houston) will do any small blasting (like welds) for a nominal or (most often) no added charge. BTW, I can't believe that your axles weigh 200 lbs. each. Maybe with springs and hubs attached but I doubt it even then unless they are like 7500 lb solid (i.e., not tube) axles with brakes. If you are determined to paint it, get an industrial grade primer and finish coat "system"or get ready to repaint every few years. When I paint a trailer, I sandblast, prime and finish coat with an industrial grade paint. I'd have to go to my shop to look at the cans to give you the names of the exact paint but I get them from Sherman Williams. I'm sure that other paint suppliers have comparable systems but you will not find "real" industrial paint systems at Home Depot or Lowe's. Ospho is a somewhat less effective alternative to sandblasting but FOR SURE do not just paint over mill scale. It would be a shame to design and build a quality trailer and then condemn it (and you) to a life of rust remediation. "Gary Warner" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message Are you going to paint it? Yep, gonna paint it. Haven't yet but planning to contact some local body shops to see what prices why have (should be a relatively simple job compared to a car). We've also considered painting it ourselves with spray cans - but I think a pro can do a nicer looking job and maybe provide some paint that lasts longer + more protection. At one point I also contacted some people that do color-galvanizing. We've decided we'ld rather repaint every X years if we have to then spend the money for the color-galvy - but it would be nice. |
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Welding our trailer - pics
"Gary Warner" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote Looks good. How much do you figure all that steel weighs? Good question. The side-rails and cross-members are 5" channel that is about 6.7 lbs/foot. The tongue is 5"x3" tube that is about 9.4 lbs/foot. Some rough calculations: Steel: 600 lbs Axels 200 lbs each = 400 lbs So that's 1000 lbs. When we add 5 tires (one spare) the bow-stop post, winch, jack, spare tire post, actuator, steel-risers, bunks, etc, we'll probably be at 1200 to 1400 lbs. ~ When we were looking to have one custom made for us, that is the range they estimated also. Our trailer is probably a little heaver / over built. But since it's not a "production" thing and since we won't put that many miles on it, a little extra weight is not much of an issue. I don't know what type/engine that welder has. I know my dad has had that thing for 30 or more years. Tom S. Woodstock, CT Later. My dad had a couple of them. His were a V4 aircooled unit. Last engine he got was when they tore down the old Ford plant at the Richmond shipyards. They ran air raid sirens in WW-2 with them. I think Onan supplied them. Remeber getting a set of points at the Onan distributor at one time. Bill |
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Welding our trailer - pics
Nice work there.
db "Gary Warner" wrote in message ... Links are to some pics of welding our trailer: http://tinyurl.com/3apc6 or http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=...21b34674116540 |
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