On Monday 20 September 2004 12:16 pm in rec.boats Bilgeman wrote:

tomf123 quips:

-Yep - it's Monday, sure as heck. :)-

Bilge-Yep, all freakin' day.

Say, chum, you seem to have an IQ above room temperature, and to know the
difference between a bow pulpit and a saloon urinal...

What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...is there a computer
terminal in
the day room of some looney bin somewhere?

A lot of the posters in this group seem to sorely lacking in heavy meds
and
long term, probing bouts of intensive therapy.

It was those damned movies, right?

Too many booger-eaters saw "The Perfect Storm" and "Pirates of the
Carribean"
and decided to "run off to sea" and be Depp, Clooney, and Wahlberg, right?

I swear to Almighty, some of these drooling half-wits should have a mast
riveted to their foreheads and be flying 4 black balls from it.

I wouldn't trust some of these clowns to captain a rubber duck in a sitz
bath,
let alone a motor or sailing vessel on the high seas.

WTF?

You are (relatively) new around here.

The first thing to do is to plonk Jax into a nice padded
killfile. The second is to kill/ignore any thread
containing responses to him. Jax is a clueless boatless
troll who deliberately posts garbage in order to stir up
an argument. This is a form of attention seeking disorder.

Once you have our number one problem sorted you should take
similar action against all threads beginning OT and the
idiots who post political crap KNOWING that it is off topic.

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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:36:07 -0400, "Gene Kearns"
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:10:39 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

~~ much snippage ~~

I got it - I missed the link you posted the first go 'round.

Interesting discussion.

What's a kellet?


A kellet is "that weight" we've been talking about. If you don't
incorporate "the weight" in the anchor rode, via chain, it can be
artificially applied by using a kellet. Weight is what makes the
catenary functional. As the following link describes, once the
catenary is pulled tight enough to start lifting the shank of the
anchor, the holding ability of the anchor *rapidly* decays. The
greater the weight of the rode, the more holding power and (within
reason) the more shock absorbing power .

see:

http://www.anchorbuddy.co.nz/index.html

Got it. Thanks.

I knew what it was, but I couldn't recall.

Later,

Tom

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
**some** is a pedant use of the word. particularly in the context of
multi-G
shock loads. i.e. "reducing" by "some" measure from 4.898 G's to
4.89799983
G's.

A wave surge isn't causing multi-G shock loads, jackassby.

tomf123 and Chris Newport (not-me):

Gents:

Thanx for the skinny.
Boating is a high-dollar hobby and folks who "muck about with boats" have
something in common..they measure themselves, their crafts and their wits and
muscle, against the eternal sea...and she's not very forgiving in her "****ier"
moods...or of the prideful and ignorant who think they're "above all
that"...you do it right, or you don't come home...unless you're one lucky
s.o.b.

Silly freakin' me...I thought that with such minor trifles as lives and
fortunes at stake, there'd be something of a more serious discourse hereabouts.
I've "plowed the same furrow" on Usenet since 1995/6 or thereabouts, so I'm
passingly familiar with the netiquette...or lack thereof.

Anyway, y'all, thanks for the trouble to point out the local rocks n'
shoals...just proof of the adage that a good pilot is worth twice his weight in
gold, whilst a bad one makes a passable expedient chafing gear for your anchor
chain.

Tom, feel free to use my nasty-ass bon mots to clobber the Neanderthals
with...heck, if I didn't coin 'em then I stole 'em from some other poor
slob...and BTW, tyin' flies and fishin' don't exactly sound like a purgatorial
rehab regimen, y'know?

Hope yer "ticklin the ivories" again real soon, chum.

Regards;
Mutiny is a Management Tool
Select Your Tattoo while Sober

jaxashby quibbles:

-to those who don't know who the scum bag Bilge Rat is, he makes a living
--such as it is -- crawling around the lowest spots in a filthy cargo ships to
replace worn electrical wiring. this, of course, makes him an expert in
recreational boats and how they are used.-

Bilge- Never claimed any expertise in that area...unless someone else 'round
here has spent more time on Diego Garcia than I have, then I guess I'm the
local expert on "Dodge",(God help me).

Y'know, I love the kind of putrid little ****-lick who thinks that being a
seaman is somewhat akin to serving time for a felony conviction.

Ain't it strange that Christ could left his church in the care of any of his
apostles, among the ones we know of were tax collectors,farmers, tradesmen,
prostitutes(reformed), and fishermen.

And to whom did He hand the Keys?

So, yeah pallie, I play with some fairly dangerous crap in some fairly nasty
places, and the money isn't quite enough to innoculate me from that "Won the
Mega Millions Lotto" dream.

What of it? Care to try it? How many 40 and 50 year olds do you know who walk
the equivalent of a 15 story building every damned day?

Judging by your attitude, I'd say your maritime expertise is job-related
also...you must be the bozo who sucks farts outta the seats of the Staten
Island Ferry.

GFY;



Mutiny is a Management Tool
Select Your Tattoo while Sober

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:43:04 -0400, "Gene Kearns"
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:53:55 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


The end points are not at the same elevation.

True, but then a hyperbolic curve does not necessarily have to have
equal level end points (in this case, height). It only has to have a
90º tangent at some point along the curve.

I think I'm getting one of my headaches again. I retired to get away
from all this stuff. :)


Snips


A catenary is not a hyperbolic curve.
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Catenary.html

I won't argue.

You win. :)

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717

On 20 Sep 2004 16:39:57 GMT, (Bilgeman) wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

and BTW, tyin' flies and fishin' don't exactly sound like a purgatorial
rehab regimen, y'know?

Ah, but it is. And watching the waves go by is even more calming.

And there are the tugs with their tows, ships and what not plying
their trades - it's very restfull.

Thanks for the good words.

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717

Bilgeman wrote:
jaxashby quibbles:

-to those who don't know who the scum bag Bilge Rat is, he makes a living
--such as it is -- crawling around the lowest spots in a filthy cargo ships to
replace worn electrical wiring. this, of course, makes him an expert in
recreational boats and how they are used.-

Bilge- Never claimed any expertise in that area...unless someone else 'round
here has spent more time on Diego Garcia than I have, then I guess I'm the
local expert on "Dodge",(God help me).

Y'know, I love the kind of putrid little ****-lick who thinks that being a
seaman is somewhat akin to serving time for a felony conviction.

BG Doodles (jaxass) reminds me of my dear, departed, dingbat, aunt,
who was appalled that I would choose to go to sea in "filthy" Merchant
ships rather than in some nice clean Naval ship.
Like my aunt, Doodles, wouldn't know a Merchant ship from a "choo choo
twain".
Trust me Bilge ...... having laughed through many a "Doodles" rant on
subjects nautical, I still find it hard to imagine him holding down a
"BR" position.
On the one or two trips where he may have gotten out of sight of land,
he MAY have been onboard as ballast or "Norwegian Steam", but that's all.

otn

yo-yo bilge rat, there is no historical evidence whatsoever that that dude ever
existed.

but, then there is no historical evidence to show you have a brain, either.

Ain't it strange that Christ could left his church in the care of any of his
apostles, among the ones we know of were tax collectors,farmers, tradesmen,
prostitutes(reformed), and fishermen.

And to whom did He hand the Keys?

So, yeah pallie, I play with some fairly dangerous crap in some fairly nasty
places, and the money isn't quite enough to innoculate me from that "Won the
Mega Millions Lotto" dream.

What of it? Care to try it? How many 40 and 50 year olds do you know who
walk
the equivalent of a 15 story building every damned day?

Judging by your attitude, I'd say your maritime expertise is job-related
also...you must be the bozo who sucks farts outta the seats of the Staten
Island Ferry.

GFY;



Mutiny is a Management Tool
Select Your Tattoo while Sober

Y'know, I love the kind of putrid little ****-lick who thinks that being a
seaman is somewhat akin to serving time for a felony conviction.

then you love three quarters of the world's population.