Wayne.B wrote in message . ..
On 20 Apr 2004 11:05:46 -0700, (Curtis CCR)
wrote:

They never started the turbines used for high speed work.

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They're only allowed a very limited amount of running time on the
turbines because of the high fuel consumption, over 2,000 gallons per
hour if my memory is correct.

One of the engineers said it was over a gallon per second. They could
stay out for a couple of months using the diesels - they could run the
fuel dry in just a few hours when running the turbines. So we asked -
so when do you run them? "When responding to live or death
emergencies".

I don't recall the exact speed... but it was in the high 30's when
they used the turbines. 35 to 40 knots is a damned good clip for a
jet fuel burning, 370 footer.

Are you suggesting that large ships should use rope to anchor in heavy
weather?

no, I am not. I *am* stating flat out that any talk of how steel freighters
and cruise ship manned 24/7/365 and anchored in beneign conditions is specious
in the context of anchoring recreational sailboats in windy conditions. It is
the type of talk as might be expected from old men too weak, too lazy to lift a
35# anchor.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message

Well, you should inform the Navy and the cruise lines.

When jax goes off his meds, he goes trolling.

When jax goes off his meds, he goes trolling.

a.) rec.boats has become a political trash heap. I am trying to bring boats
back into the ng

b.) all chain rode WILL pull your anchor loose and/or your deck chocks when the
winds pick up and the waves start.

c.) all chain rode is for old men too weak to lift a 100 feet of rope and an
anchor.

QED



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
When jax goes off his meds, he goes trolling.

a.) rec.boats has become a political trash heap. I am trying to bring
boats
back into the ng

b.) all chain rode WILL pull your anchor loose and/or your deck chocks
when the
winds pick up and the waves start.

c.) all chain rode is for old men too weak to lift a 100 feet of rope and
an
anchor.

QED

yeah, sure. and in a hurricane to boot, right?




"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
When jax goes off his meds, he goes trolling.

a.) rec.boats has become a political trash heap. I am trying to bring
boats
back into the ng

b.) all chain rode WILL pull your anchor loose and/or your deck chocks
when the
winds pick up and the waves start.

c.) all chain rode is for old men too weak to lift a 100 feet of rope and
an
anchor.

QED

a Danforth style?

a.) rec.boats has become a political trash heap. I am trying to bring boats
back into the ng

You're right, sort of.

1) Rec boats is mostly politics these days.
The majority of new threads are political.
Boating topics get 2-3 responses, "Bush Sucks, Kerry Sucks, This Poster or That
Sucks" threads get 150.

2) It's a trash heap because of the level of discourse, in addition to the
prevailing, political subject matter. Fewer contributors
seem unable to grasp the concept that people with contrasting opinions are not
automatically ignorant miscreants with questionable paternity and incurable
personality disorders. Name calling and flaming are considered standard
procedure, with some posters carrying the same flame war from thread to thread
for several years. Less than adult behavior, by any objective standard.

Take your opening salvo in this thread.

You could have said, "All chain rode is inferior because..............." and
let it go at that. Nope. Didn't happen. Instead, anybody who disagrees with
your opinion is either a "weak old man" or "chicken of the sea."

If your goal is truly to redirect rec.boats from becoming 100% political or
even more of a trash heap, you should consider doing more than introducing a
boating related topic. You might consider a policy under which you don't bring
in additional trash.

You could have said, "All chain rode is inferior because..............." and
let it go at that. Nope. Didn't happen. Instead, anybody who disagrees with
your opinion is either a "weak old man" or "chicken of the sea."

they are. in fact, I believe ANYone who anchors on all chain (because they are
too weak and/or lazy) and who subsequently drags his boat in a storm down on
another boat injurying someone and/or doing damage to the shoreline downwind is
guilty of criminal behavior. It is JUST LIKE driving drunk. They knew better,
but didn't care.

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:08:19 -0400, "John Gaquin"
wrote:

When jax goes off his meds, he goes trolling.

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Yes. He's right though with regard to his own boat.

An all chain rode would be overkill on his little bath tub toy.