"Don" wrote in message
...

Doug,
You don't have to go defensive over erroneous claims.
Henry has no more say over your property than you do over his.
Just smear his nose in his own **** and move on.



I'm simply helping him understand laws he is 100% unfamiliar with. The
same
laws I've become 100% familiar with in order to enjoy the simple
pleasure
of
a vegetable garden in the midst of a few neighbors who don't care.

sigh
It's not your job to educate morons, though you may choose to do so for
hobby.
The *law* has nothing to do with it.
We're talking about *morality* here.
If Blackmoore chooses to act immorally and infringe on your *natural*
rights, you just plug him and turn him into fertilizer.
There are way too many Blackmoores running loose anyway.



Morality, yes. But, in some cases, the law reflects basic moral issues which
continue to be important to people. Henry has apparently created nothing
worth preserving, therefore he is having extreme difficulty grasping this
issue. Fortunately, the courts do NOT share this handicap. Henry should
invite his lawyer to dinner and request an education. Better yet, he should
head to his town/city hall and spend an afternoon browsing through his local
laws. It'll be a real eye opener.

I have no idea if it is legal to shot a dog because he comes into your
garden, but I know I could never kill a dog for that reason. If a dog was
running free and crapping in my garden I would call animal control and have
the dog picked up. If the neighbor was being unreasonable and was not
honoring my request to keep his animal off of my property, I would file a
suit with small claims court.

I can't believe that two people in this small group, would advocate killing
a defense animal due to their neighbors neglect.

Yours and Don's statements say more about who you are, than anything I or
anyone else could say.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Don" wrote in message
...

Doug,
You don't have to go defensive over erroneous claims.
Henry has no more say over your property than you do over his.
Just smear his nose in his own **** and move on.



I'm simply helping him understand laws he is 100% unfamiliar with. The
same
laws I've become 100% familiar with in order to enjoy the simple
pleasure
of
a vegetable garden in the midst of a few neighbors who don't care.

sigh
It's not your job to educate morons, though you may choose to do so for
hobby.
The *law* has nothing to do with it.
We're talking about *morality* here.
If Blackmoore chooses to act immorally and infringe on your *natural*
rights, you just plug him and turn him into fertilizer.
There are way too many Blackmoores running loose anyway.



Morality, yes. But, in some cases, the law reflects basic moral issues
which
continue to be important to people. Henry has apparently created nothing
worth preserving, therefore he is having extreme difficulty grasping this
issue. Fortunately, the courts do NOT share this handicap. Henry should
invite his lawyer to dinner and request an education. Better yet, he
should
head to his town/city hall and spend an afternoon browsing through his
local
laws. It'll be a real eye opener.

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:nU7ic.10331$IW1.713713@attbi_s52...
I have no idea if it is legal to shot a dog because he comes into your
garden, but I know I could never kill a dog for that reason. If a dog was
running free and crapping in my garden I would call animal control and
have
the dog picked up. If the neighbor was being unreasonable and was not
honoring my request to keep his animal off of my property, I would file a
suit with small claims court.

I can't believe that two people in this small group, would advocate
killing
a defense animal due to their neighbors neglect.

Yours and Don's statements say more about who you are, than anything I or
anyone else could say.

Unlike Henry, you sound like a guy who has the mental capacity to mull over
a hypothetical situation. In fact, this is based on reality. Here goes:

1) The animal control person fails to do his job after 15 phonecalls. The
excuses are absurd.

2) The neighbor promises to improve the situation, but does absolutely
nothing.

3) You go to court and are told that it's not a small claims issue.

4) It's the middle of May, and you've put 200 hours of work into the
vegetable garden so far. It's literally being destroyed by a dog which digs
there.

Now what?

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:XL8ic.2312
Unlike Henry, you sound like a guy who has the mental capacity to mull over
a hypothetical situation. In fact, this is based on reality. Here goes:

1) The animal control person fails to do his job after 15 phonecalls. The
excuses are absurd.

2) The neighbor promises to improve the situation, but does absolutely
nothing.

3) You go to court and are told that it's not a small claims issue.

4) It's the middle of May, and you've put 200 hours of work into the
vegetable garden so far. It's literally being destroyed by a dog which
digs
there.

Now what?



At this point I probably would pick up the dog's **** and place it on the
hood of his car.

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:a59ic.10918$aQ6.877797@attbi_s51...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
news:XL8ic.2312
Unlike Henry, you sound like a guy who has the mental capacity to mull
over
a hypothetical situation. In fact, this is based on reality. Here goes:

1) The animal control person fails to do his job after 15 phonecalls.
The
excuses are absurd.

2) The neighbor promises to improve the situation, but does absolutely
nothing.

3) You go to court and are told that it's not a small claims issue.

4) It's the middle of May, and you've put 200 hours of work into the
vegetable garden so far. It's literally being destroyed by a dog which
digs
there.

Now what?



At this point I probably would pick up the dog's **** and place it on the
hood of his car.

Ah ha! That could potentially be interpreted as a vigilante tactic. Very
good! But, I'd suggest that you lift a windshield wiper, drop the **** on
the glass, and let the wiper drop into the ****. Much more effective.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"John Smith" wrote in message
news:a59ic.10918$aQ6.877797@attbi_s51...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
news:XL8ic.2312
Unlike Henry, you sound like a guy who has the mental capacity to mull
over
a hypothetical situation. In fact, this is based on reality. Here
goes:

1) The animal control person fails to do his job after 15 phonecalls.
The
excuses are absurd.

2) The neighbor promises to improve the situation, but does absolutely
nothing.

3) You go to court and are told that it's not a small claims issue.

4) It's the middle of May, and you've put 200 hours of work into the
vegetable garden so far. It's literally being destroyed by a dog which
digs
there.

Now what?



At this point I probably would pick up the dog's **** and place it on
the
hood of his car.

Ah ha! That could potentially be interpreted as a vigilante tactic. Very
good! But, I'd suggest that you lift a windshield wiper, drop the **** on
the glass, and let the wiper drop into the ****. Much more effective.

Just drop a handful of mothballs in the owners gas tank.

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:a59ic.10918$aQ6.877797@attbi_s51...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
news:XL8ic.2312
Unlike Henry, you sound like a guy who has the mental capacity to mull
over
a hypothetical situation. In fact, this is based on reality. Here goes:

1) The animal control person fails to do his job after 15 phonecalls.
The
excuses are absurd.

2) The neighbor promises to improve the situation, but does absolutely
nothing.

3) You go to court and are told that it's not a small claims issue.

4) It's the middle of May, and you've put 200 hours of work into the
vegetable garden so far. It's literally being destroyed by a dog which
digs
there.

Now what?



At this point I probably would pick up the dog's **** and place it on the
hood of his car.

That's against the law, isn't it?
Are you now advocating ignoring laws?

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"John Smith" wrote in message
news:nU7ic.10331$IW1.713713@attbi_s52...
I have no idea if it is legal to shot a dog because he comes into your
garden, but I know I could never kill a dog for that reason. If a dog
was
running free and crapping in my garden I would call animal control and
have
the dog picked up. If the neighbor was being unreasonable and was not
honoring my request to keep his animal off of my property, I would file
a
suit with small claims court.

I can't believe that two people in this small group, would advocate
killing
a defense animal due to their neighbors neglect.

Yours and Don's statements say more about who you are, than anything I
or
anyone else could say.

Unlike Henry, you sound like a guy who has the mental capacity to mull
over
a hypothetical situation. In fact, this is based on reality. Here goes:

1) The animal control person fails to do his job after 15 phonecalls. The
excuses are absurd.

2) The neighbor promises to improve the situation, but does absolutely
nothing.

3) You go to court and are told that it's not a small claims issue.

4) It's the middle of May, and you've put 200 hours of work into the
vegetable garden so far. It's literally being destroyed by a dog which
digs
there.

Now what?

Two years ago when we lived in the more urban part of the city, while
walking my 2 leashed (leashes are required here) spaniels at 10 pm, we were
viciously attacked by full grown Rottweilers and German Shepherds THREE
times. All three times I kicked the hell out of the attackers, while pulling
my 2 leashed dogs behind me. During the last attack I killed the German
Shepherd with about 5 good kicks to the ribs and head. After the first
attack I called the Animal Control and was told there is nothing they can do
after 5 pm. I then called the police and they told me that there was nothing
they could do and that I should get a gun and a permit and shoot the
attackers. I then asked if it was illegal to discharge a firearm in the city
limits and they told me it was. I then asked what the penalty was for
shooting a dog within the city limits and they told me that I would be
charged with a felony and my gun would be confiscated. Welcome to the new
Russia.

"Don" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"John Smith" wrote in message
news:nU7ic.10331$IW1.713713@attbi_s52...
I have no idea if it is legal to shot a dog because he comes into your
garden, but I know I could never kill a dog for that reason. If a dog
was
running free and crapping in my garden I would call animal control and
have
the dog picked up. If the neighbor was being unreasonable and was not
honoring my request to keep his animal off of my property, I would
file
a
suit with small claims court.

I can't believe that two people in this small group, would advocate
killing
a defense animal due to their neighbors neglect.

Yours and Don's statements say more about who you are, than anything I
or
anyone else could say.

Unlike Henry, you sound like a guy who has the mental capacity to mull
over
a hypothetical situation. In fact, this is based on reality. Here goes:

1) The animal control person fails to do his job after 15 phonecalls.
The
excuses are absurd.

2) The neighbor promises to improve the situation, but does absolutely
nothing.

3) You go to court and are told that it's not a small claims issue.

4) It's the middle of May, and you've put 200 hours of work into the
vegetable garden so far. It's literally being destroyed by a dog which
digs
there.

Now what?

Two years ago when we lived in the more urban part of the city, while
walking my 2 leashed (leashes are required here) spaniels at 10 pm, we
were
viciously attacked by full grown Rottweilers and German Shepherds THREE
times. All three times I kicked the hell out of the attackers, while
pulling
my 2 leashed dogs behind me. During the last attack I killed the German
Shepherd with about 5 good kicks to the ribs and head. After the first
attack I called the Animal Control and was told there is nothing they can
do
after 5 pm. I then called the police and they told me that there was
nothing
they could do and that I should get a gun and a permit and shoot the
attackers. I then asked if it was illegal to discharge a firearm in the
city
limits and they told me it was. I then asked what the penalty was for
shooting a dog within the city limits and they told me that I would be
charged with a felony and my gun would be confiscated. Welcome to the new
Russia.



Step 1: Pepper spray
Step 2: Break the dog's neck
Step 3: Drop dog into nearest trash can, being sure to remove its tags, if
any, and drop them into the nearest storm drain.
Step 4: Go home and celebrate with a beer.

Doug,

The Penal Code says you are allowed to use any force necessary to stop the
dog's attack, but once the dog is no longer a threat, you may not use any
more force on the animal. It appears that you and Don believe in a high
power than the US Penal Code.

Peace and love,


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Don" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"John Smith" wrote in message
news:nU7ic.10331$IW1.713713@attbi_s52...
I have no idea if it is legal to shot a dog because he comes into
your
garden, but I know I could never kill a dog for that reason. If a
dog
was
running free and crapping in my garden I would call animal control
and
have
the dog picked up. If the neighbor was being unreasonable and was
not
honoring my request to keep his animal off of my property, I would
file
a
suit with small claims court.

I can't believe that two people in this small group, would advocate
killing
a defense animal due to their neighbors neglect.

Yours and Don's statements say more about who you are, than anything
I
or
anyone else could say.

Unlike Henry, you sound like a guy who has the mental capacity to mull
over
a hypothetical situation. In fact, this is based on reality. Here
goes:

1) The animal control person fails to do his job after 15 phonecalls.
The
excuses are absurd.

2) The neighbor promises to improve the situation, but does absolutely
nothing.

3) You go to court and are told that it's not a small claims issue.

4) It's the middle of May, and you've put 200 hours of work into the
vegetable garden so far. It's literally being destroyed by a dog which
digs
there.

Now what?

Two years ago when we lived in the more urban part of the city, while
walking my 2 leashed (leashes are required here) spaniels at 10 pm, we
were
viciously attacked by full grown Rottweilers and German Shepherds THREE
times. All three times I kicked the hell out of the attackers, while
pulling
my 2 leashed dogs behind me. During the last attack I killed the German
Shepherd with about 5 good kicks to the ribs and head. After the first
attack I called the Animal Control and was told there is nothing they
can
do
after 5 pm. I then called the police and they told me that there was
nothing
they could do and that I should get a gun and a permit and shoot the
attackers. I then asked if it was illegal to discharge a firearm in the
city
limits and they told me it was. I then asked what the penalty was for
shooting a dog within the city limits and they told me that I would be
charged with a felony and my gun would be confiscated. Welcome to the
new
Russia.



Step 1: Pepper spray
Step 2: Break the dog's neck
Step 3: Drop dog into nearest trash can, being sure to remove its tags, if
any, and drop them into the nearest storm drain.
Step 4: Go home and celebrate with a beer.