On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 15:44:18 GMT, Jim wrote:

http://www.moveon.org/news/fec-gag.html
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I don't usually reply to my own posts, but since some might consider this
off topic and flame me for not posting it as such, I will expand the list
of examples

Suppose Boat US wants to support a candidate who is in favor of cleaning up
the Chesapeake, or has a favorable stand on docking rights, or wants more
funding for CG search and rescue?

What about a local YC trying for something like a zoning variance so they
can expand, or pushing for a mooring zone?

What about boat builders opposed to another "luxury tax"?

Suppose Boat US wants to support a candidate who is in favor of cleaning up
the Chesapeake, or has a favorable stand on docking rights, or wants more
funding for CG search and rescue?

More funding for SAR, probably OK.
If you holler "Mayday", nobody asks if you're a Bush supporter before they
dispatch a rescue. (Although there is likely a group who feel that they
should.)

If a candidate has some boater friendly poistions, I would want to know where
he or she stands on the *rest* of the issues.
If they are pretty much OK, I don't need my Boat US membership money going to
them.....I will send a personal check.

Few things pizza me off worse than various organizations and associations I
choose to belong to (or am compelled to belong to for professional purposes)
making a decision about which political candidate they believe is "best" for
the organization and steering my membership fees to their campaign. Every
election year my trash fills up with solicitations from these organizations
asking for additional money yet to support some (usually) right wing candidate
or another.

As this newsgroup so aptly illustrates, boating and politics are a difficult
mix. :-)

Couldn't wait to get back in the political BS, could you?
PLONK
Gordon
"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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Suppose Boat US wants to support a candidate who is in favor of cleaning
up
the Chesapeake, or has a favorable stand on docking rights, or wants more
funding for CG search and rescue?

More funding for SAR, probably OK.
If you holler "Mayday", nobody asks if you're a Bush supporter before they
dispatch a rescue. (Although there is likely a group who feel that they
should.)

If a candidate has some boater friendly poistions, I would want to know
where
he or she stands on the *rest* of the issues.
If they are pretty much OK, I don't need my Boat US membership money going
to
them.....I will send a personal check.

Few things pizza me off worse than various organizations and associations
I
choose to belong to (or am compelled to belong to for professional
purposes)
making a decision about which political candidate they believe is "best"
for
the organization and steering my membership fees to their campaign. Every
election year my trash fills up with solicitations from these
organizations
asking for additional money yet to support some (usually) right wing
candidate
or another.

As this newsgroup so aptly illustrates, boating and politics are a
difficult
mix. :-)

Gordon wrote:

Couldn't wait to get back in the political BS, could you?
PLONK
Gordon
Gordon
Please add me to your filter list, I don't need any of your comments either.
Thanks.
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Couldn't wait to get back in the political BS, could you?
PLONK
Gordon

Too bad you won't see this Gordon.
Looks like you reacted emotionally, not intellectually.

Somebody asked, hypothetically, how we would feel it Boat US endorsed a
candidate.

I replied that I dislike organizations choosing candidates for me.

If you think that's "political BS", you're far too sensitive to hang around
rec.boats

I'm just passing through once in a while, and avoiding the political posts. The
question about BoatUS taking a stand in favor of a political candidate is a
boating related topic. Even in Sequim. I didn't agree or disagree with any
other aspect of the original post.

Plonk yourself.

Incidents like this remind me why I gave up on this kindergarten in the first
place.

My thoughts exactly. He comes back for two seconds and starts the
political baloney.

See my reply to Gordon, Wally.

The question: "What if BoatUS decided to endorse a political candidate" is a
boating related question. Especially if you're a member of Boat/US.

The comment, "I don't like organizations picking candidates for me" isn't
political baloney.

Am I not allowed to make any remark that encompasses potential political
activity by BOAT/US because I'm proud to be a liberal? Give me a break, I
didn't even mention your president or any of the several immensely discussable
"issues" of our time.

You'll want to apologize for your remark when you reevaluate my post. Don't
bother. Have a happy Easter instead.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...

Few things pizza me off worse than various organizations and associations
I
choose to belong to (or am compelled to belong to for professional
purposes)
making a decision about which political candidate they believe is "best"
for
the organization and steering my membership fees to their campaign.

Hmm. Do you feel the same way about unions?

On 08 Apr 2004 17:09:12 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

As this newsgroup so aptly illustrates, boating and politics are a difficult
mix.

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Truth is however, we as boaters need all the political support we can
get. Like it or not boaters are frequently categorized as "the rich",
and as a result considered fair game for all manner of ill advised
policies and taxes.

Right now I'd vote for any candidate that promised to get the Corps of
Engineers out of the "save the manatee" business, and back in the
business of approving my dock building permit. Come to think of it,
they really shouldn't be in that business either.

On 08 Apr 2004 17:09:12 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Few things pizza me off worse than various organizations and associations I
choose to belong to (or am compelled to belong to for professional purposes)
making a decision about which political candidate they believe is "best" for
the organization and steering my membership fees to their campaign.

Wow, I never thought you'd be anti-union.

Steve

Wow, I never thought you'd be anti-union.

Steve

?????

Where did you get that?

In a discussion about whether it would be appropriate for BOAT/US to spend
members' money on specific political candidates, I commented-

Few things pizza me off worse than various organizations and associations I
choose to belong to (or am compelled to belong to for professional purposes)
making a decision about which political candidate they believe is "best" for
the organization and steering my membership fees to their campaign.


If I belonged to a union, (don't- and haven't for at least 25 years), I would
personally feel the same way as I do about some of the professional
organizations I belong to
endorsing and financially supporting candidates. I don't join an association to
be told how to vote, I don't want BOAT/US telling me how to vote, and I remain
independent from political parties for the same reason.

Would you think it a little strange if the board of directors at your yacht
club, country club, or what not voted to send several thousand dollars (or
more) to the campaign of a particular politician? The directors are free to
send their own personal money, as are the individual members, to the candidate
of their choice.