That SEA LION evokes a much earlier era than BLACK ROCK. The extremely
high sterncastle is more like a galleon, say, 16th century. BLACK ROCK
is a relatively modern ship. My wife and I initially thought the
deadly and mysterious "others" must be the descendants of stranded
pirates.

WRT the show itself, I imagine that the BLACK ROCK's cargo will be
revealed to be at least partly composed of exotic animals. I can't
wait to find out how polar bears managed to reproduce on that tropical
island for over a century.

BTW, the "monster" on the island is an ELEPHANT! The ship must have
been well traveled to pick up both polar bears and elephants.


trainfan1 wrote:
Ed Stasiak wrote:
I was wondering if any of y'all could identify the style and
era of a wooden sailing ship shown on the TV show "Lost"?;


http://lost-media.com/modules.php?na...lbum=469&pos=1

http://tinyurl.com/837qs



http://lost-media.com/modules.php?na...lbum=469&pos=2

http://tinyurl.com/8hr8c

In particular, we'd like to know when a ship of this type
was being built and approximately how long these types of
ships were in use.

Also, what are the odds that a ship like this would survive
in the condition shown up until 2004 on a tropical island,
factoring in that it's possible that people may have been
using the ship as a home and maintaining it for X number
of years?

By the way, are there any historical references to a ship
named "Black Rock", possibly out of Portsmouth England?


http://www.madbbs.com/users/iflyhigh747/Pict2490.jpg

http://www.madbbs.com/users/iflyhigh747/SLN3.JPG

http://www.madbbs.com/users/iflyhigh...09beforeul.jpg

http://www.madbbs.com/users/iflyhigh...0_1169bbul.jpg

Similarites? This is the Sea Lion from Chautauqua Lake.

Rob

BTW, the "monster" on the island is an ELEPHANT! The ship must have
been well traveled to pick up both polar bears and elephants.


I thought that the monster might be an elephant too. Strange. Can't
explain it logically in any other way. Elephants as a security system?

--
BJ Simpson

It [baseball] will take our people out-of-doors, fill them with oxygen, give
them a larger physical stoicism. Tend to relieve us from being a nervous,
dyspeptic set. Repair these losses, and be a blessing to us. - Walt Whitman
"PBM" wrote in message
ups.com...
That SEA LION evokes a much earlier era than BLACK ROCK. The extremely
high sterncastle is more like a galleon, say, 16th century. BLACK ROCK
is a relatively modern ship. My wife and I initially thought the
deadly and mysterious "others" must be the descendants of stranded
pirates.

WRT the show itself, I imagine that the BLACK ROCK's cargo will be
revealed to be at least partly composed of exotic animals. I can't
wait to find out how polar bears managed to reproduce on that tropical
island for over a century.



trainfan1 wrote:
Ed Stasiak wrote:
I was wondering if any of y'all could identify the style and
era of a wooden sailing ship shown on the TV show "Lost"?;


http://lost-media.com/modules.php?na...lbum=469&pos=1

http://tinyurl.com/837qs



http://lost-media.com/modules.php?na...lbum=469&pos=2

http://tinyurl.com/8hr8c

In particular, we'd like to know when a ship of this type
was being built and approximately how long these types of
ships were in use.

Also, what are the odds that a ship like this would survive
in the condition shown up until 2004 on a tropical island,
factoring in that it's possible that people may have been
using the ship as a home and maintaining it for X number
of years?

By the way, are there any historical references to a ship
named "Black Rock", possibly out of Portsmouth England?


http://www.madbbs.com/users/iflyhigh747/Pict2490.jpg

http://www.madbbs.com/users/iflyhigh747/SLN3.JPG

http://www.madbbs.com/users/iflyhigh...09beforeul.jpg

http://www.madbbs.com/users/iflyhigh...0_1169bbul.jpg

Similarites? This is the Sea Lion from Chautauqua Lake.

Rob

more like a carrack than a galleon isn't it...rounded stern and all.


"Ed Stasiak" wrote in message
oups.com...
I was wondering if any of y'all could identify the style and
era of a wooden sailing ship shown on the TV show "Lost"?;


http://lost-media.com/modules.php?na...age&meta =top
n&album=469&pos=1

http://tinyurl.com/837qs



http://lost-media.com/modules.php?na...age&meta =top
n&album=469&pos=2

http://tinyurl.com/8hr8c

In particular, we'd like to know when a ship of this type
was being built and approximately how long these types of
ships were in use.

Also, what are the odds that a ship like this would survive
in the condition shown up until 2004 on a tropical island,
factoring in that it's possible that people may have been
using the ship as a home and maintaining it for X number
of years?

By the way, are there any historical references to a ship
named "Black Rock", possibly out of Portsmouth England?

"jojo" wrote in message
m...
more like a carrack than a galleon isn't it...rounded stern and all.

I'm having a hard time finding anything.
Any possibility that "Black Rock" "portsmouth" is where the ship is from,
and not her name?
I tried googeling images of both galleons and carracks, but can't find a
single image of a ship
with her name on the back like that......

On Fri, 20 May 2005 19:30:11 GMT, "jojo"
wrote:


"jojo" wrote in message
om...
more like a carrack than a galleon isn't it...rounded stern and all.

I'm having a hard time finding anything.
Any possibility that "Black Rock" "portsmouth" is where the ship is from,
and not her name?

Um - yeah? Of course Portsmouth where is the real question.

I tried googeling images of both galleons and carracks, but can't find a
single image of a ship with her name on the back like that......

It's a very common convention and has been for about a zillion years.
Most of the time, it was reserved for commercial vessels for tax
purposes and treaty conventions.

Later,

Tom

PBM wrote:

That SEA LION evokes a much earlier era than BLACK ROCK. The extremely
high sterncastle is more like a galleon, say, 16th century. BLACK ROCK
is a relatively modern ship. My wife and I initially thought the
deadly and mysterious "others" must be the descendants of stranded
pirates.

WRT the show itself, I imagine that the BLACK ROCK's cargo will be
revealed to be at least partly composed of exotic animals. I can't
wait to find out how polar bears managed to reproduce on that tropical
island for over a century.

BTW, the "monster" on the island is an ELEPHANT!

No it isn't.

In the premiere episode, the pilot was yanked *upwards* out of the
cockpit of the plane, as if something grabbed him from above. And there
was certainly no elephant's trunk seen. The pilot's body was then
impaled atop a tree. We saw Locke face the "monster" and look upwards
at it, at an angle that indicated it must be some 20 feet high at least.
Which is consistent with the way it's able to shake whole trees. And
the footfalls of elephants aren't loud enough to be heard from hundreds
of feet away. Elephants don't do all that.

Elephants don't make the type of sounds we're hearing. The sounds we're
hearing are definitely mechanical.


--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email:

Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.

On Fri, 20 May 2005 23:12:32 GMT, "Steven L."
wrote:



PBM wrote:

That SEA LION evokes a much earlier era than BLACK ROCK. The extremely
high sterncastle is more like a galleon, say, 16th century. BLACK ROCK
is a relatively modern ship. My wife and I initially thought the
deadly and mysterious "others" must be the descendants of stranded
pirates.

WRT the show itself, I imagine that the BLACK ROCK's cargo will be
revealed to be at least partly composed of exotic animals. I can't
wait to find out how polar bears managed to reproduce on that tropical
island for over a century.

BTW, the "monster" on the island is an ELEPHANT!

No it isn't.

In the premiere episode, the pilot was yanked *upwards* out of the
cockpit of the plane, as if something grabbed him from above. And there
was certainly no elephant's trunk seen. The pilot's body was then
impaled atop a tree. We saw Locke face the "monster" and look upwards
at it, at an angle that indicated it must be some 20 feet high at least.
Which is consistent with the way it's able to shake whole trees. And
the footfalls of elephants aren't loud enough to be heard from hundreds
of feet away. Elephants don't do all that.

Elephants don't make the type of sounds we're hearing. The sounds we're
hearing are definitely mechanical.

Sounds like this guy has never seen or heard an African bull elephant.

Later,

Tom

On Fri, 20 May 2005 19:30:11 GMT, "jojo"
wrote:


"jojo" wrote in message
om...
more like a carrack than a galleon isn't it...rounded stern and all.

I'm having a hard time finding anything.
Any possibility that "Black Rock" "portsmouth" is where the ship is from,
and not her name?
I tried googeling images of both galleons and carracks, but can't find a
single image of a ship
with her name on the back like that......

The ship is neither galleon nor carrack. A carrack has no
transom, a galleon has a square stern, not a round tuck.

Peter Skelton

"Steven L." wrote in message
.net...
The pilot's body was then impaled atop a tree.

No it wasn't.

Ed Stasiak wrote:

By the way, are there any historical references to a ship
named "Black Rock", possibly out of Portsmouth England?


Don't know about ships, but there are several locations called "Black
Rock" including:

http://www.cityqueue.com/towngovernment/RouteJ.HTML
http://ah.bfn.org/h/br/brfox/
http://www.fishvictoria.com/pyoursay...black_rock.php

Google got lots of hits.

--Charlene


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