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That SEA LION evokes a much earlier era than BLACK ROCK. The extremely
high sterncastle is more like a galleon, say, 16th century. BLACK ROCK is a relatively modern ship. My wife and I initially thought the deadly and mysterious "others" must be the descendants of stranded pirates. WRT the show itself, I imagine that the BLACK ROCK's cargo will be revealed to be at least partly composed of exotic animals. I can't wait to find out how polar bears managed to reproduce on that tropical island for over a century. BTW, the "monster" on the island is an ELEPHANT! The ship must have been well traveled to pick up both polar bears and elephants. trainfan1 wrote: Ed Stasiak wrote: I was wondering if any of y'all could identify the style and era of a wooden sailing ship shown on the TV show "Lost"?; http://lost-media.com/modules.php?na...lbum=469&pos=1 http://tinyurl.com/837qs http://lost-media.com/modules.php?na...lbum=469&pos=2 http://tinyurl.com/8hr8c In particular, we'd like to know when a ship of this type was being built and approximately how long these types of ships were in use. Also, what are the odds that a ship like this would survive in the condition shown up until 2004 on a tropical island, factoring in that it's possible that people may have been using the ship as a home and maintaining it for X number of years? By the way, are there any historical references to a ship named "Black Rock", possibly out of Portsmouth England? http://www.madbbs.com/users/iflyhigh747/Pict2490.jpg http://www.madbbs.com/users/iflyhigh747/SLN3.JPG http://www.madbbs.com/users/iflyhigh...09beforeul.jpg http://www.madbbs.com/users/iflyhigh...0_1169bbul.jpg Similarites? This is the Sea Lion from Chautauqua Lake. Rob |
more like a carrack than a galleon isn't it...rounded stern and all.
"Ed Stasiak" wrote in message oups.com... I was wondering if any of y'all could identify the style and era of a wooden sailing ship shown on the TV show "Lost"?; http://lost-media.com/modules.php?na...age&meta =top n&album=469&pos=1 http://tinyurl.com/837qs http://lost-media.com/modules.php?na...age&meta =top n&album=469&pos=2 http://tinyurl.com/8hr8c In particular, we'd like to know when a ship of this type was being built and approximately how long these types of ships were in use. Also, what are the odds that a ship like this would survive in the condition shown up until 2004 on a tropical island, factoring in that it's possible that people may have been using the ship as a home and maintaining it for X number of years? By the way, are there any historical references to a ship named "Black Rock", possibly out of Portsmouth England? |
"jojo" wrote in message m... more like a carrack than a galleon isn't it...rounded stern and all. I'm having a hard time finding anything. Any possibility that "Black Rock" "portsmouth" is where the ship is from, and not her name? I tried googeling images of both galleons and carracks, but can't find a single image of a ship with her name on the back like that...... |
On Fri, 20 May 2005 19:30:11 GMT, "jojo"
wrote: "jojo" wrote in message om... more like a carrack than a galleon isn't it...rounded stern and all. I'm having a hard time finding anything. Any possibility that "Black Rock" "portsmouth" is where the ship is from, and not her name? Um - yeah? Of course Portsmouth where is the real question. I tried googeling images of both galleons and carracks, but can't find a single image of a ship with her name on the back like that...... It's a very common convention and has been for about a zillion years. Most of the time, it was reserved for commercial vessels for tax purposes and treaty conventions. Later, Tom |
PBM wrote: That SEA LION evokes a much earlier era than BLACK ROCK. The extremely high sterncastle is more like a galleon, say, 16th century. BLACK ROCK is a relatively modern ship. My wife and I initially thought the deadly and mysterious "others" must be the descendants of stranded pirates. WRT the show itself, I imagine that the BLACK ROCK's cargo will be revealed to be at least partly composed of exotic animals. I can't wait to find out how polar bears managed to reproduce on that tropical island for over a century. BTW, the "monster" on the island is an ELEPHANT! No it isn't. In the premiere episode, the pilot was yanked *upwards* out of the cockpit of the plane, as if something grabbed him from above. And there was certainly no elephant's trunk seen. The pilot's body was then impaled atop a tree. We saw Locke face the "monster" and look upwards at it, at an angle that indicated it must be some 20 feet high at least. Which is consistent with the way it's able to shake whole trees. And the footfalls of elephants aren't loud enough to be heard from hundreds of feet away. Elephants don't do all that. Elephants don't make the type of sounds we're hearing. The sounds we're hearing are definitely mechanical. -- Steven D. Litvintchouk Email: Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. |
On Fri, 20 May 2005 23:12:32 GMT, "Steven L."
wrote: PBM wrote: That SEA LION evokes a much earlier era than BLACK ROCK. The extremely high sterncastle is more like a galleon, say, 16th century. BLACK ROCK is a relatively modern ship. My wife and I initially thought the deadly and mysterious "others" must be the descendants of stranded pirates. WRT the show itself, I imagine that the BLACK ROCK's cargo will be revealed to be at least partly composed of exotic animals. I can't wait to find out how polar bears managed to reproduce on that tropical island for over a century. BTW, the "monster" on the island is an ELEPHANT! No it isn't. In the premiere episode, the pilot was yanked *upwards* out of the cockpit of the plane, as if something grabbed him from above. And there was certainly no elephant's trunk seen. The pilot's body was then impaled atop a tree. We saw Locke face the "monster" and look upwards at it, at an angle that indicated it must be some 20 feet high at least. Which is consistent with the way it's able to shake whole trees. And the footfalls of elephants aren't loud enough to be heard from hundreds of feet away. Elephants don't do all that. Elephants don't make the type of sounds we're hearing. The sounds we're hearing are definitely mechanical. Sounds like this guy has never seen or heard an African bull elephant. Later, Tom |
On Fri, 20 May 2005 19:30:11 GMT, "jojo"
wrote: "jojo" wrote in message om... more like a carrack than a galleon isn't it...rounded stern and all. I'm having a hard time finding anything. Any possibility that "Black Rock" "portsmouth" is where the ship is from, and not her name? I tried googeling images of both galleons and carracks, but can't find a single image of a ship with her name on the back like that...... The ship is neither galleon nor carrack. A carrack has no transom, a galleon has a square stern, not a round tuck. Peter Skelton |
"Steven L." wrote in message
.net... The pilot's body was then impaled atop a tree. No it wasn't. |
Ed Stasiak wrote:
By the way, are there any historical references to a ship named "Black Rock", possibly out of Portsmouth England? Don't know about ships, but there are several locations called "Black Rock" including: http://www.cityqueue.com/towngovernment/RouteJ.HTML http://ah.bfn.org/h/br/brfox/ http://www.fishvictoria.com/pyoursay...black_rock.php Google got lots of hits. --Charlene -- To die for an idea is unquestionably noble. But how much nobler it would be if men died for ideas that were true! -- H.L. Mencken email perronnelle at earthlink . net |
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