Message from the Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades:

"Praise be to God who gave us this victory in the conquest of Madrid...
where one of the pillars of the axis of Crusader evil was destroyed," the
statement said, affirming its earlier claim for the Madrid attacks.

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When the polls are closed election day 2004, do you really want to read the
following al Qaeda statement broadcast all over the news?

"Praise be to God who gave us this victory in the conquest of America...
where the final pillar of the axis of Crusader evil was destroyed."

A vote for Kerry is victory for al Qaeda.

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:53:38 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


A vote for Kerry is victory for al Qaeda.

Run on anything except Bush's record, eh? Nice straw man.

bb

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On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:53:38 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


A vote for Kerry is victory for al Qaeda.

Run on anything except Bush's record, eh? Nice straw man.

As a Conservative Republican, I'm very proud of Bush's record, and can (and
have) successfully defended it against any partisan attacks.

However, Democrats have decided to turn this election into an "anybody but
Bush" campaign. Well, it's time for Americans to realize the danger of such
a decision.

It's no secret that al Qaeda would claim a huge victory should Bush be run
from office. Why do you think that is? Supposedly, according to Democrats,
the war on terror is a failure. However, our opponent continues to do
everything possible to mar Bush's chances for reelection. If Bush's
anti-terror policies were such a failure, the enemy wouldn't be so eager to
see him replaced by a liberal Democrat. That's commonsense. By all
indications, Bush is an enemy to radical Islam. Radical Islam is a threat to
the survival of Western civilization...which makes them my (and your) enemy.
And an enemy of our enemy is our friend.


A vote for Kerry is a victory for al Qaeda.

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"bb" wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:53:38 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


A vote for Kerry is victory for al Qaeda.

Run on anything except Bush's record, eh? Nice straw man.

As a Conservative Republican, I'm very proud of Bush's record, and can
(and
have) successfully defended it against any partisan attacks.

And I'm very proud of the lettuce seedlings in my front window. So what?


However, Democrats have decided to turn this election into an "anybody
but
Bush" campaign. Well, it's time for Americans to realize the danger of
such
a decision.

There is no danger. You need to think this through more thoroughly.


It's no secret that al Qaeda would claim a huge victory should Bush be run
from office.

1) They can claim whatever the f..k they want, but they know what you don't:
Only a moron would draw a connection between the election results and the
future of al Qaeda.

2) They've claimed a victory in the Spanish elections. Zzzzzzz..... Nobody
cares.


Why do you think that is? Supposedly, according to Democrats,
the war on terror is a failure.

If you base the quality of the results on whether there's been another
attack HERE, then the results have been good. But, only a moron would limit
his view to THIS country at this point in time. Iraq is still pretty much a
free play zone, and the terrorist kiddies are having a ball. Therefore, that
has been a failure. Afghanistan is also a circus, but you won't believe
that. Try this: We thought we'd create a nice country that could behave like
other nice countries. Just one problem: 60% of their GNP is derived from
opium poppies, and there's not a damned thing we can do about it.


However, our opponent continues to do
everything possible to mar Bush's chances for reelection. If Bush's
anti-terror policies were such a failure, the enemy wouldn't be so eager
to
see him replaced by a liberal Democrat.

Let's see if I understand you: If we get a Democratic president, the war
ends, the soldiers come home, and all domestic security measures enacted
since 9/11 are reversed? Is that what you predict?

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"bb" wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:53:38 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


A vote for Kerry is victory for al Qaeda.

Run on anything except Bush's record, eh? Nice straw man.

As a Conservative Republican, I'm very proud of Bush's record, and can
(and
have) successfully defended it against any partisan attacks.

And I'm very proud of the lettuce seedlings in my front window. So what?


However, Democrats have decided to turn this election into an "anybody
but
Bush" campaign. Well, it's time for Americans to realize the danger of
such
a decision.

There is no danger. You need to think this through more thoroughly.


It's no secret that al Qaeda would claim a huge victory should Bush be
run
from office.

1) They can claim whatever the f..k they want, but they know what you
don't:
Only a moron would draw a connection between the election results and the
future of al Qaeda.

It'd be terrific propaganda. "By inflicting great harm on America and its
allies, we were able to drive the evil Crusader Bush from office."

You don't think that would be a terrific recruiting tool? You don't thank
that al Qaeda training camps would teach the idea that the West's will can
be broken, and its people and elections manipulated through acts of terror?



2) They've claimed a victory in the Spanish elections. Zzzzzzz.....
Nobody
cares.

The terrorist care. The message coming out of all of the terror groups
linked to al Qaeda is that the Spanish elections were a great victory for
them. It was a morale-booster at a time when al Qaeda desperately needed
one.



Why do you think that is? Supposedly, according to Democrats,
the war on terror is a failure.

If you base the quality of the results on whether there's been another
attack HERE, then the results have been good. But, only a moron would
limit
his view to THIS country at this point in time. Iraq is still pretty much
a
free play zone, and the terrorist kiddies are having a ball. Therefore,
that
has been a failure. Afghanistan is also a circus, but you won't believe
that. Try this: We thought we'd create a nice country that could behave
like
other nice countries. Just one problem: 60% of their GNP is derived from
opium poppies, and there's not a damned thing we can do about it.


However, our opponent continues to do
everything possible to mar Bush's chances for reelection. If Bush's
anti-terror policies were such a failure, the enemy wouldn't be so eager
to
see him replaced by a liberal Democrat.

Let's see if I understand you: If we get a Democratic president, the war
ends, the soldiers come home, and all domestic security measures enacted
since 9/11 are reversed? Is that what you predict?

No. But I do predict an increase in al Qaeda's morale leading to emboldened
attacks that result in further appeasement by the West. The end result? al
Qaeda controls 2/3 of the World's oil supply, and America undergoes an
economic collapse not seen since the Great Depression.

The terrorist care. The message coming out of all of the terror groups
linked to al Qaeda is that the Spanish elections were a great victory for
them. It was a morale-booster at a time when al Qaeda desperately needed
one.

Al Qaeda is no longer the same entity it was in the past, nor does it need
to be. You really need to listen to more news sources. I've told you this
before. When your knowledge has as much depth as a saltine cracker, you
sound like a fool. The terrorists rounded up in Spain appear to be
associated with a me-too group from Morocco. AQ may cheer, but it seems they
had little to do with the train bombing. Similar to the situation in Israel
where multiple groups raise their hands and take credit for the latest
suicide bombing.

NOYB wrote:
As a Conservative Republican, I'm very proud of Bush's record,

Really? Are you proud of his arrest record? Are you proud of his
grandfather's record of selling war materials to Nazi Germany?

More recently, how about his record of running and hiding when the US
was actually under attack? That is something to be proud of all right.

But that's all old news. Let's talk about the present. How about Bush's
vetoing spending money on intel & security? That might really help fight
terrorism, but he nixed it. How about his record of ignoring... and even
falsifying... military casualties? His record of reducing veteran's
benefits?

How about his record of stonewalling the Sept 11 investigation? His
record of going on vacation more than any other President, ever? His
record of lying about many things, from the Clinton staff vandalizing
the White House to his declaration that he would not use Sept 11th
politically? How his record of bragging about his foreign policy
success, while stabbing his own Secretary of State in the back and
driving a wedge between the US and our longest & closest allies?

It must take a supreme effort of the will to be proud of these things.
Either that, or you're really a not-so-undercover Socialist agitator who
mocks Bush by praising him. If that's the case, as I suspect, then
you're overdoing it.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
As a Conservative Republican, I'm very proud of Bush's record,

Really? Are you proud of his arrest record?

Big deal. By the time we graduated from high school, 1/3 of my graduating
had been "arrested" for underage drinking while in high school. However,
they didn't call it an "arrest" (no miranda rights read, no handcuffs, and
no night in jail). The term was "juvenile adjudication".


Are you proud of his
grandfather's record of selling war materials to Nazi Germany?

His






More recently, how about his record of running and hiding when the US
was actually under attack?

He was a target you doofus.

That is something to be proud of all right.

But that's all old news. Let's talk about the present. How about Bush's
vetoing spending money on intel & security?

He did no such thing.

That might really help fight
terrorism, but he nixed it.

Lie.

How about his record of ignoring... and even
falsifying... military casualties?

Lie.

His record of reducing veteran's
benefits?


Another lie.


How about his record of stonewalling the Sept 11 investigation?

Bull****.

His
record of going on vacation more than any other President, ever?

So what.

His
record of lying about many things, from the Clinton staff vandalizing
the White House

another lie. Check with the GAO. Their report shows it happened just as he
says it happened.

to his declaration that he would not use Sept 11th
politically?

Where'd he say that?

How his record of bragging about his foreign policy
success, while stabbing his own Secretary of State in the back and
driving a wedge between the US and our longest & closest allies?

The wedge has been there for some time. I'm glad he just exposed the
phonies for what they are...backstabbing ingrates.



It must take a supreme effort of the will to be proud of these things.
Either that, or you're really a not-so-undercover Socialist agitator who
mocks Bush by praising him. If that's the case, as I suspect, then
you're overdoing it.

I suspect that you couldn't find proof for more than one...maybe two...of
your aforementioned allegations.

Really? Are you proud of his arrest record?



NOYB wrote:
Big deal. By the time we graduated from high school, 1/3 of my graduating
had been "arrested" for underage drinking while in high school.

Ah, so now you're saying that you think it is morally OK to set an
example of boozing irresponsibly... driving while drunk among other
things... for today's young people?




Are you proud of his
grandfather's record of selling war materials to Nazi Germany?


His




What, did speech fail you? It's true, matter of record. Prescott Bush
paid a fine out of court rather than be charged with trafficking with an
enemy state. But then the Bush family was not as rich nor as powerful as
they are now. What sort of parallel can be drawn form this, given the
free ride that the Bin Laden family and Saudi business connections have
been getting?




More recently, how about his record of running and hiding when the US
was actually under attack?


He was a target you doofus.

Really? That was proclaimed loudly but so far there is no evidence at
all.... none... just another excuse and another lie.



That is something to be proud of all right.

But that's all old news. Let's talk about the present. How about Bush's
vetoing spending money on intel & security?


He did no such thing.

Really? Why did they cut funding for DARPA, a key military intelligence
project? What about the CDC's funding for emergency equipment & training
for counter-bioterror programs? What about the roll back on airport
security? Cutting funds for updating the CIA and FBI computer systems?

The list goes on. Bush is spending gazillions on war in Iraq, which
posed only very slight terrorist threat to the US. However, when it
comes to actually taking steps to combat terrorist groups, with money
that will not be funneled into the pockets of his supporters, he doesn't
give a rat's patootie.




That might really help fight
terrorism, but he nixed it.


Lie.

Unfortunately it's all true.


How about his record of ignoring... and even

falsifying... military casualties?


Lie.

Nope, true again.


How about his record of stonewalling the Sept 11 investigation?


Bull****.

Oh? Why then has Bush refused to meet with them? So far he's given a
string of statements about his dignity, and executive priviledge... he
puts his dignity above America's safety, his priviledges above the
truth... apart from that disturbing & undeniable fact, what does he have
to hide?

So far, the Bush Administration has given minimal coopoeration with the
9-11 investigation. They've even had to get court orders.


His
record of going on vacation more than any other President, ever?


So what.

Interesting set of priorities.

His

record of lying about many things, from the Clinton staff vandalizing
the White House


another lie. Check with the GAO. Their report shows it happened just as he
says it happened.

Umm, no. Their report said NONE of it happened.



to his declaration that he would not use Sept 11th
politically?


Where'd he say that?

About fifteen times, from two years ago until about two months ago.


How his record of bragging about his foreign policy
success, while stabbing his own Secretary of State in the back and
driving a wedge between the US and our longest & closest allies?


The wedge has been there for some time. I'm glad he just exposed the
phonies for what they are...backstabbing ingrates.

An interesting attitude.

But the FACT remains that his policies have failed. We have regime
change in Spain (and possibly coming up in Britain) and made a lot of
new enemies, but have not ended the first threat.

So we see... you are pro-Bush to the point of denying very obvious and
easily verifiable fact... in your opinion, the Bush family should come
first above the good of the rest of the country. In your opinion, lies
and profiteering are fine *if* the guys you like are doing it.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
As a Conservative Republican, I'm very proud of Bush's record,

Really? Are you proud of his arrest record? Are you proud of his
grandfather's record of selling war materials to Nazi Germany?

More recently, how about his record of running and hiding when the US
was actually under attack? That is something to be proud of all right.
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DSK


SOP. The plane that crashed in PA was headed for the White House.