On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 11:29:15 -0500, DSK wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:
...Kerry has a leadership problem. The last time he led anyone was in Vietnam,
since then he has been a consensus builder and not a leader. Bush has been a
governor and the president.

Well, golly gee, Bush promised to be a uniter, not a divider. The
Bush/Cheney campaign promoted his record of 'building concensus' in
Texas, although his actual record didn't seem to show it much.

So you are saying that Bush is *not* a concensus builder, but instead
tries to stamp out dissent? That sounds about right to me... but it is
not IMHO a desirable characteristic in the leader of a "free" country.

DSK

Here is an example of consensus building:

The Coalition Forces
The world, working together, to make a difference

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At this time, 35 countries, in addition to the United States, have
contributed a total of approximately 22,000 troops to ongoing
stability operations in Iraq. These 34 are Albania, Australia,
Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Canada, the Czech Republic, Denmark, the
Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Honduras, Hungary,
Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova,
Mongolia, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Poland,
Portugal, Thailand, the Philippines, Romania, Slovakia, South Korea,
Spain, Ukraine and the United Kingdom


John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 21:21:07 -0500, John H wrote:

The policy was Clinton's.

More than a little disingenuous, wouldn't you say. Yes, the policy was
continued under the Clinton administration, but it was instituted by Bush
I, and was limited to Dover. Under the present administration, just
before the Iraq War, the ban on filming caskets was extended to all bases.

http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/houseofthedead/85.html

"Jim" wrote in message

......policy that banned
reporters from photographing flag-draped caskets of soldiers killed in
combat .


..... an image of "firefighters carrying a flag-draped
body" from the 9/11 wreckage at Ground Zero .

A photo of an attack 2-1/2 years ago, and a photo of the coffin of a soldier
killed last week are two very different things. I can see the difference,
and I'm sure you can, too -- should you care to admit it.

The avoidance of news images of dead US soldiers is not at all new, much as
you'd love to blame it on the President. In WW-II, I believe it was some
time in late 1943 before any image at all of a killed GI was shown in a US
newspaper.

"John Gaquin" wrote in message ...
"Jim" wrote in message

......policy that banned
reporters from photographing flag-draped caskets of soldiers killed in
combat .


..... an image of "firefighters carrying a flag-draped
body" from the 9/11 wreckage at Ground Zero .

A photo of an attack 2-1/2 years ago, and a photo of the coffin of a soldier
killed last week are two very different things. I can see the difference,
and I'm sure you can, too -- should you care to admit it.

And I can see the similarities, and I'm sure you can too, should you
care to admit it.

(basskisser) wrote in message om...
"John Gaquin" wrote in message ...
"Jim" wrote in message

......policy that banned
reporters from photographing flag-draped caskets of soldiers killed in
combat .


..... an image of "firefighters carrying a flag-draped
body" from the 9/11 wreckage at Ground Zero .

A photo of an attack 2-1/2 years ago, and a photo of the coffin of a soldier
killed last week are two very different things. I can see the difference,
and I'm sure you can, too -- should you care to admit it.

And I can see the similarities, and I'm sure you can too, should you
care to admit it.

In general, the market for x-ray optics is slowly improving as OEMs
slowly "get it". However, most OEM companies have little talent for
innovation so have little capability to invent anything themselves.
This means that those of us on the front techno-lines will constantly
be doing the innovation and then bashing the OEMs on the haid till
they unnerstand.
(another random post from my collection)

President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."

John H wrote:
What horse****!

President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."

John H wrote:
What horse****!

President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."

John H wrote:
What horse****!

President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."

John H wrote:
What horse****!

For once we agree

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 23:19:25 -0500, Jim wrote:

President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."

John H wrote:
What horse****!

President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."

John H wrote:
What horse****!

President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."

John H wrote:
What horse****!

President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."

John H wrote:
What horse****!

For once we agree

You're getting quite creative. Cool!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!