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John H March 5th 04 09:09 PM

Moderator?
 
On 05 Mar 2004 16:05:48 EST, "Ron White"
wrote:

OK, I'll bite. I don't read them so their content is not what is so
irrating, at least to me. It is their very exsistance, me having to find the
"bilge pump" posting that is easily missed after my eyes glaze over. Yes,
you are right about the seasonal aspect but still I just like to simply come
here to talk about boats, that is when I think I have something to say that
is helpful ( seldom). Meantime, I have set my subject and name of poster
filters to delete those that almost never seem to have anything to say about
the topic of the group. If I can get that fine tuned then things will be ok,
they can rage on off my screen.


I don't know what program you use to read the newsgroups with, but
Forte's Agent does very well. It enables the sorting of posts by
thread, which greatly reduces the number of "subject" lines you must
wade through.

Works for me anyway.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

CCred68046 March 5th 04 09:45 PM

Moderator?
 
But, my question is still a valid one which some people can't answer. What do
you
do when you see a boating question that's of no interest to you whatsoever?


Your question has no validity whatsoever. You should read about newsgroup
etiquette. What I read is none of your business. I came here to read about
BOATS. What good would your library be if everything was just mixed together?
If your so damn smart, why haven't you figured that out on your own?
The only reason you and your fellow off topic posters continue to spam us with
your worthless political opinions here is because you know your un-educated
rants would be crushed by someone who might actually know something about the
topic in the proper newsgroup.
In this group your constant off topic bull is spam and you are boring.
You have more nerve than a bad tooth asking people "what do you do when you see
something your not interested in?" Let me assure you were sure not interested
in yours or any of these other clowns opinions on politics. Only a total
jackass would look at the title of this group and think "hey, I bet these guys
discuss politics!".
The only people more stupid than that would be someone like yourself for trying
to defend your ignorance of newsgroup etiquette.



John Smith March 5th 04 10:16 PM

Moderator?
 
Doug,

The answer is obvious, you ignore it. Now, let me ask you a question, when
you read Basskisser, NOYB, Harry, jps, Tuuk, Wally etc. it is very obvious
that they do not come here to discuss boats, they like to discuss politics.
Many people enjoy discussing and arguing about politics, so they are not
unusal. What is unusual is that the prefer to discuss politcs in rec.boats.
Why not go to one of the politcal discussion groups?

Now your point is just ignore the posts if you don't like them. Well I do,
and many other do the same thing. What is the harm from people calling each
other names? The problem is that most of the very knowledgeable boaters,
mechanics, suppliers and people who used to enjoy discussing boats have left
this group because they found it too irrating seeing adults behavning like
children. The people who want to discuss boats or have questions answered
find their questions or requests for boating discussions are overlooked by
the regulars, because they really don't want to discuss boats. At one time,
the regulars would enjoy discussing boats and would get into OT discussions
as a way to pass the time. That is not the case today. Today the majority
of the regulars come here to argue politics and call their opponets names.
The poor person who comes in this group often finds his legitmate questions
ignored by the regulars because they are too busy with their political mud
slinging. That is the problem with 80% of the posts being off topic.

Now, do I believe anything I said will change the topics and political
trolling that goes on here? No way, I don't believe it will change, but you
are a smart person and you should understand why some people who come to
this newsgroup are offended by the 80% of off topic BS. It really would not
be so bad, if people actually made politcal statements that made sense, but
most of the posts are "you are stupid", the __________ are destroying the
world as we know it", you don't know anything, and I know it all. One of
the regulars who seems to be intellegent thinks if he uses profanity by
changing the spelling (ie dumfock) it makes it more politically correct. It
doesn't, all it does is make him look silly.

The person who started this thread, thought his comments would make a
difference. That showed that he is a newbie to rec.boats, but it was not an
unreasonable request.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I'm sure the proportions will change as the boats go back in the water.

But,
my question is still a valid one which some people can't answer. What do

you
do when you see a boating question that's of no interest to you

whatsoever?

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:Ks42c.122743$4o.163236@attbi_s52...
Doug,

I know my post will not make a difference, but what has happened is that
most of the contributors who liked the forum as a group to discussion

boats,
have long left this group. The regulars now come here to discuss

politics
and ignore most posts concerning boats. As I said, I know the group

wont'
change, but Joe's posts is a fair request. At one time, this group was

90%
on topic and 10% off topic, it is now about 80% OFF TOPIC and 20% on

topic.
Since the group is not moderated, it will go whatever way the regulars

want
it to go, but I am sure we will see less and less boating topics as this
group is taking over by those who think it is a political forum. It

appears
that the regulars want this to be a political forum.





"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
If you see a topic regarding bilge pumps, but you have no interest in

that
at the moment, what do you do?

"Joe. R" wrote in message
link.net...
Doesn't this board have a moderator? It's really a downer to see a

once
fine source of information on boats and boating in general get

polluted
by
non boating garbage.

There are other sites where folks can spout off on non-boating

topics.

jr











Gordon March 5th 04 10:38 PM

Moderator?
 
If you need boating info from this group, do a google group search on
the topic needed. If it has to do with boats, its been discussed here
before.
Gordon
"John Smith" wrote in message
news:Ks42c.122743$4o.163236@attbi_s52...
Doug,

I know my post will not make a difference, but what has happened is that
most of the contributors who liked the forum as a group to discussion

boats,
have long left this group. The regulars now come here to discuss politics
and ignore most posts concerning boats. As I said, I know the group wont'
change, but Joe's posts is a fair request. At one time, this group was

90%
on topic and 10% off topic, it is now about 80% OFF TOPIC and 20% on

topic.
Since the group is not moderated, it will go whatever way the regulars

want
it to go, but I am sure we will see less and less boating topics as this
group is taking over by those who think it is a political forum. It

appears
that the regulars want this to be a political forum.





"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
If you see a topic regarding bilge pumps, but you have no interest in

that
at the moment, what do you do?

"Joe. R" wrote in message
link.net...
Doesn't this board have a moderator? It's really a downer to see a

once
fine source of information on boats and boating in general get

polluted
by
non boating garbage.

There are other sites where folks can spout off on non-boating topics.

jr










Petey the Wonder Dog March 5th 04 10:57 PM

Moderator?
 
Far as I can tell, someone wrote:
I usually read them and if I have something to contribute I do. If I don't
then I don't.


That makes you one of the people ruining the group.

Doug Kanter March 6th 04 12:03 AM

Moderator?
 
"Petey the Wonder Dog" wrote in message
...
Far as I can tell, someone wrote:
I usually read them and if I have something to contribute I do. If I

don't
then I don't.


That makes you one of the people ruining the group.


Maybe he doesn't contribute because someone he could only post what someone
has already posted. Why be redundant? Or, maybe he doesn't know the answer
to someone's question. You think he should start pulling ideas out of his
ass just to see his name in a message? :-)



Doug Kanter March 6th 04 12:03 AM

Moderator?
 
If you're in a bar at a marina with friends, do you only talk about boats?



Doug Kanter March 6th 04 12:07 AM

Moderator?
 
Actually, Basskisser, Harry, NOYB and jps post some very informative and
accurate responses to boating questions. I agree with you about the
name-calling, and Harry could lay off that routine a bit. But it's actually
been interesting to follow the evolution of a few of the more civilized
people here. People have often found that they agree more than they
disagree. John H and Noah are perfect examples of that. I could live next
door to John H and not kill him...I think.

As far as Tuuk, Wally, etc.....in every nice forest, there are weeds and
coyote droppings.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:h%62c.186479$uV3.783757@attbi_s51...
Doug,

The answer is obvious, you ignore it. Now, let me ask you a question,

when
you read Basskisser, NOYB, Harry, jps, Tuuk, Wally etc. it is very obvious
that they do not come here to discuss boats, they like to discuss

politics.
Many people enjoy discussing and arguing about politics, so they are not
unusal. What is unusual is that the prefer to discuss politcs in

rec.boats.
Why not go to one of the politcal discussion groups?

Now your point is just ignore the posts if you don't like them. Well I

do,
and many other do the same thing. What is the harm from people calling

each
other names? The problem is that most of the very knowledgeable boaters,
mechanics, suppliers and people who used to enjoy discussing boats have

left
this group because they found it too irrating seeing adults behavning like
children. The people who want to discuss boats or have questions answered
find their questions or requests for boating discussions are overlooked by
the regulars, because they really don't want to discuss boats. At one

time,
the regulars would enjoy discussing boats and would get into OT

discussions
as a way to pass the time. That is not the case today. Today the

majority
of the regulars come here to argue politics and call their opponets names.
The poor person who comes in this group often finds his legitmate

questions
ignored by the regulars because they are too busy with their political mud
slinging. That is the problem with 80% of the posts being off topic.

Now, do I believe anything I said will change the topics and political
trolling that goes on here? No way, I don't believe it will change, but

you
are a smart person and you should understand why some people who come to
this newsgroup are offended by the 80% of off topic BS. It really would

not
be so bad, if people actually made politcal statements that made sense,

but
most of the posts are "you are stupid", the __________ are destroying the
world as we know it", you don't know anything, and I know it all. One of
the regulars who seems to be intellegent thinks if he uses profanity by
changing the spelling (ie dumfock) it makes it more politically correct.

It
doesn't, all it does is make him look silly.

The person who started this thread, thought his comments would make a
difference. That showed that he is a newbie to rec.boats, but it was not

an
unreasonable request.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I'm sure the proportions will change as the boats go back in the water.

But,
my question is still a valid one which some people can't answer. What do

you
do when you see a boating question that's of no interest to you

whatsoever?

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:Ks42c.122743$4o.163236@attbi_s52...
Doug,

I know my post will not make a difference, but what has happened is

that
most of the contributors who liked the forum as a group to discussion

boats,
have long left this group. The regulars now come here to discuss

politics
and ignore most posts concerning boats. As I said, I know the group

wont'
change, but Joe's posts is a fair request. At one time, this group

was
90%
on topic and 10% off topic, it is now about 80% OFF TOPIC and 20% on

topic.
Since the group is not moderated, it will go whatever way the regulars

want
it to go, but I am sure we will see less and less boating topics as

this
group is taking over by those who think it is a political forum. It

appears
that the regulars want this to be a political forum.





"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
If you see a topic regarding bilge pumps, but you have no interest

in
that
at the moment, what do you do?

"Joe. R" wrote in message
link.net...
Doesn't this board have a moderator? It's really a downer to see

a
once
fine source of information on boats and boating in general get

polluted
by
non boating garbage.

There are other sites where folks can spout off on non-boating

topics.

jr













John H March 6th 04 12:30 AM

Moderator?
 
On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 00:07:05 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Actually, Basskisser, Harry, NOYB and jps post some very informative and
accurate responses to boating questions. I agree with you about the
name-calling, and Harry could lay off that routine a bit. But it's actually
been interesting to follow the evolution of a few of the more civilized
people here. People have often found that they agree more than they
disagree. John H and Noah are perfect examples of that. I could live next
door to John H and not kill him...I think.

As far as Tuuk, Wally, etc.....in every nice forest, there are weeds and
coyote droppings.


That may be, but I'd sure as hell not let you borrow my mower!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Florida Keyz March 6th 04 12:59 AM

Moderator?
 
personally,I still read some of th posts,but pretty much this group has been
ruined by the OT assholes.


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