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![]() John H wrote: Bush did a superb job of providing leadership to the country during a time when panic could have reigned supreme. Ummm -- seems to me that The president and VP ran and hid while this was going on. There was something like 20 min between tower 1 and tower 2 being hit. It was over an hour before the Pentagon was hit, yet no air defense was prepared. The plane that went down in PA was tracked for some time, yet not taken out All in all I'd say the presidents' actions on 9/11 are nothing to brag about |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 12:50:31 -0500, Jim wrote:
John H wrote: Bush did a superb job of providing leadership to the country during a time when panic could have reigned supreme. Ummm -- seems to me that The president and VP ran and hid while this was going on. There was something like 20 min between tower 1 and tower 2 being hit. It was over an hour before the Pentagon was hit, yet no air defense was prepared. The plane that went down in PA was tracked for some time, yet not taken out All in all I'd say the presidents' actions on 9/11 are nothing to brag about Each to his own, right? John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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![]() Jim wrote: Ummm -- seems to me that The president and VP ran and hid while this was going on. There was something like 20 min between tower 1 and tower 2 being hit. It was over an hour before the Pentagon was hit, yet no air defense was prepared. The plane that went down in PA was tracked for some time, yet not taken out That plane that went down due to the heroic actions of those on board, who understood what was happening, is nothing more than knife in your hand to attack others. How pathetic is that. How contemptible you are. You'll never rise to level of those on board that plane who gave their lives for the good of others. Yours is a banal horizon, the installed in power of some political double-talker who has beguiled you. -- Charlie |
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In no way do I attempt to diminish the actions of the passengers. But
the question remains WHERE WAS OUR MILITARY? We were a nation under attack, and not 1 plane was taken out by those assigned the job! Charles wrote: Jim wrote: Ummm -- seems to me that The president and VP ran and hid while this was going on. There was something like 20 min between tower 1 and tower 2 being hit. It was over an hour before the Pentagon was hit, yet no air defense was prepared. The plane that went down in PA was tracked for some time, yet not taken out That plane that went down due to the heroic actions of those on board, who understood what was happening, is nothing more than knife in your hand to attack others. How pathetic is that. How contemptible you are. You'll never rise to level of those on board that plane who gave their lives for the good of others. Yours is a banal horizon, the installed in power of some political double-talker who has beguiled you. -- Charlie |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:23:33 -0500, Jim wrote:
In no way do I attempt to diminish the actions of the passengers. But the question remains WHERE WAS OUR MILITARY? We were a nation under attack, and not 1 plane was taken out by those assigned the job! Charles wrote: Jim wrote: Ummm -- seems to me that The president and VP ran and hid while this was going on. There was something like 20 min between tower 1 and tower 2 being hit. It was over an hour before the Pentagon was hit, yet no air defense was prepared. The plane that went down in PA was tracked for some time, yet not taken out That plane that went down due to the heroic actions of those on board, who understood what was happening, is nothing more than knife in your hand to attack others. How pathetic is that. How contemptible you are. You'll never rise to level of those on board that plane who gave their lives for the good of others. Yours is a banal horizon, the installed in power of some political double-talker who has beguiled you. -- Charlie Jim, not one military plane was assigned the job of blowing a passenger filled airliner from the sky. It sounds like you want to blame the Bush administration because the towers were hit and the Pentagon was hit. Why not just say that Bush knew about the attacks in advance and had arranged that the military take no preventative action. That would solve your problem. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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![]() John H wrote: On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:23:33 -0500, Jim wrote: In no way do I attempt to diminish the actions of the passengers. But the question remains WHERE WAS OUR MILITARY? We were a nation under attack, and not 1 plane was taken out by those assigned the job! Charles wrote: Jim wrote: Ummm -- seems to me that The president and VP ran and hid while this was going on. There was something like 20 min between tower 1 and tower 2 being hit. It was over an hour before the Pentagon was hit, yet no air defense was prepared. The plane that went down in PA was tracked for some time, yet not taken out That plane that went down due to the heroic actions of those on board, who understood what was happening, is nothing more than knife in your hand to attack others. How pathetic is that. How contemptible you are. You'll never rise to level of those on board that plane who gave their lives for the good of others. Yours is a banal horizon, the installed in power of some political double-talker who has beguiled you. -- Charlie Jim, not one military plane was assigned the job of blowing a passenger filled airliner from the sky. A good commander would have cut his losses It sounds like you want to blame the Bush administration because the towers were hit and the Pentagon was hit. Why not just say that Bush knew about the attacks in advance and had arranged that the military take no preventative action. I blame the administration for doing nothing, and now trying to impede the investigation, while using their failure as a symbol of political "leadership" That would solve your problem. Please elaborate John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:50:10 -0500, Jim wrote:
John H wrote: On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:23:33 -0500, Jim wrote: In no way do I attempt to diminish the actions of the passengers. But the question remains WHERE WAS OUR MILITARY? We were a nation under attack, and not 1 plane was taken out by those assigned the job! Charles wrote: Jim wrote: Ummm -- seems to me that The president and VP ran and hid while this was going on. There was something like 20 min between tower 1 and tower 2 being hit. It was over an hour before the Pentagon was hit, yet no air defense was prepared. The plane that went down in PA was tracked for some time, yet not taken out That plane that went down due to the heroic actions of those on board, who understood what was happening, is nothing more than knife in your hand to attack others. How pathetic is that. How contemptible you are. You'll never rise to level of those on board that plane who gave their lives for the good of others. Yours is a banal horizon, the installed in power of some political double-talker who has beguiled you. -- Charlie Jim, not one military plane was assigned the job of blowing a passenger filled airliner from the sky. A good commander would have cut his losses It sounds like you want to blame the Bush administration because the towers were hit and the Pentagon was hit. Why not just say that Bush knew about the attacks in advance and had arranged that the military take no preventative action. I blame the administration for doing nothing, and now trying to impede the investigation, while using their failure as a symbol of political "leadership" That would solve your problem. Please elaborate Even more rationale to hate Bush. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 12:50:31 -0500, Jim wrote:
John H wrote: Bush did a superb job of providing leadership to the country during a time when panic could have reigned supreme. Ummm -- seems to me that The president and VP ran and hid while this was going on. There was something like 20 min between tower 1 and tower 2 being hit. It was over an hour before the Pentagon was hit, yet no air defense was prepared. The plane that went down in PA was tracked for some time, yet not taken out All in all I'd say the presidents' actions on 9/11 are nothing to brag about Jim, we had not normally been keeping an air defense battery around the twin towers or the Pentagon. The closest air defense we had was at Fort Belvoir, VA. That's about an hour from the Pentagon on a good day, assuming the troops were loaded and ready to go. We had not been keeping F-16's on the ready rack at Andrews AFB either. Have you ever landed at National Airport in Washington, D,C.? When landing from the north, planes fly directly above the Potomac River until they hit the runway. This means they pass within a few blocks of the Pentagon. The warning time would have been about 4 seconds from the time a plane left the normal flight path. It's okay to hate Bush, but try to exercise some reason! John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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And in all cases radio contact with the planes was turned off.
Passengers with cell phones were talking from the PA plane and describing what was happening. The FAA ordered ALL planes grounded -- these 4 did not respond. IT doesn't take a genius. John H wrote: On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 12:50:31 -0500, Jim wrote: John H wrote: Bush did a superb job of providing leadership to the country during a time when panic could have reigned supreme. Ummm -- seems to me that The president and VP ran and hid while this was going on. There was something like 20 min between tower 1 and tower 2 being hit. It was over an hour before the Pentagon was hit, yet no air defense was prepared. The plane that went down in PA was tracked for some time, yet not taken out All in all I'd say the presidents' actions on 9/11 are nothing to brag about Jim, we had not normally been keeping an air defense battery around the twin towers or the Pentagon. The closest air defense we had was at Fort Belvoir, VA. That's about an hour from the Pentagon on a good day, assuming the troops were loaded and ready to go. We had not been keeping F-16's on the ready rack at Andrews AFB either. Have you ever landed at National Airport in Washington, D,C.? When landing from the north, planes fly directly above the Potomac River until they hit the runway. This means they pass within a few blocks of the Pentagon. The warning time would have been about 4 seconds from the time a plane left the normal flight path. It's okay to hate Bush, but try to exercise some reason! John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:33:11 -0500, Jim wrote:
And in all cases radio contact with the planes was turned off. Passengers with cell phones were talking from the PA plane and describing what was happening. The FAA ordered ALL planes grounded -- these 4 did not respond. IT doesn't take a genius. John H wrote: On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 12:50:31 -0500, Jim wrote: John H wrote: Bush did a superb job of providing leadership to the country during a time when panic could have reigned supreme. Ummm -- seems to me that The president and VP ran and hid while this was going on. There was something like 20 min between tower 1 and tower 2 being hit. It was over an hour before the Pentagon was hit, yet no air defense was prepared. The plane that went down in PA was tracked for some time, yet not taken out All in all I'd say the presidents' actions on 9/11 are nothing to brag about Jim, we had not normally been keeping an air defense battery around the twin towers or the Pentagon. The closest air defense we had was at Fort Belvoir, VA. That's about an hour from the Pentagon on a good day, assuming the troops were loaded and ready to go. We had not been keeping F-16's on the ready rack at Andrews AFB either. Have you ever landed at National Airport in Washington, D,C.? When landing from the north, planes fly directly above the Potomac River until they hit the runway. This means they pass within a few blocks of the Pentagon. The warning time would have been about 4 seconds from the time a plane left the normal flight path. It's okay to hate Bush, but try to exercise some reason! John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! Are you implying that the FAA ordered all planes grounded before the incidents occurred? John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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