On 06 Mar 2004 06:20:31 GMT, (Greg) wrote:

I suspect they migrated south in the winter and the ones who stayed,
died.

You suspect? Now there's sound scientific proof of nothing.

It is certain they weren't holed up in a 2 mile stretch of the Okeechobee
water way next to a power plant.

No, more likely in many of the natural springs along the coast.

I think SMC leaders need dead manatees to sustain
their phony baloney jobs.

That's what you get for thinking.

bb

Hey....you've got to admit that if SMC tried to get a power plant to make
its effluent water warmer, there's some flawed thinking going on all over
this debate. It seems to be a Florida problem. I don't hear salmon fishermen
complaining around here when the state talks about closing some old
coal-fired plants whose warm water attracts those fish.

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 14:17:06 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:
you've got to admit that if SMC tried to get a power plant to make
its effluent water warmer, there's some flawed thinking going on all over
this debate.

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You bet. The SMC not only tried, they won the case. How ludicrous is
that? Our tax payer dollars at work -- in some really perverse ways.

Manatees are nothing but road kill on the road of life. They are dumb
and slow, and that's why they get hit. Porpoises by the hundreds
frolic in and around SWFL boating channels all of the time and never,
ever get hit.

Callous? Perhaps, but that IS the reality.

We already have a Manatee County and a Manatee River. Now we need a
Manatee Grill.

Too right Wayne,
The manatee was about to win the Darwin Award for being unfit. We the
humans have decreed they are too big, fat and stupid to die out. Hence, the
SMC and a bunch of uninformed loud typers from snow country want to decide
the fate of local river usage and kill off the marine industry.

Probabaly never dodged a manatee in their lives.



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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 14:17:06 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:
you've got to admit that if SMC tried to get a power plant to make
its effluent water warmer, there's some flawed thinking going on all
over
this debate.

====================

You bet. The SMC not only tried, they won the case. How ludicrous is
that? Our tax payer dollars at work -- in some really perverse ways.

Manatees are nothing but road kill on the road of life. They are dumb
and slow, and that's why they get hit. Porpoises by the hundreds
frolic in and around SWFL boating channels all of the time and never,
ever get hit.

Callous? Perhaps, but that IS the reality.

We already have a Manatee County and a Manatee River. Now we need a
Manatee Grill.

The fact still remains thart fossils only prove an animal died here, not that
it was successful living here. Most of those natural springs are gone too.
Maybe the SMC should go into the cities and turn off all the water taps. Lets
see how successful they are at shutting down the golf courses and water parks.
Maybe they could eliminate "new home" starts.

On 06 Mar 2004 16:00:57 GMT, (Greg) wrote:

The fact still remains thart fossils only prove an animal died here, not that
it was successful living here.

Are you suggesting Florida was a manatee graveyard for millions of
years, where they came only to die after living successful lives
elsewhere? Why do you suppose manatees came to Florida to die? And
why do you suppose foreign manatees suddenly stopped coming here to
die?

Most of those natural springs are gone too.

Where did they go?

Maybe the SMC should go into the cities and turn off all the water taps.

Is that what they mean by hyperbole?

Lets
see how successful they are at shutting down the golf courses and water parks.

Is that more hyperbole?

Maybe they could eliminate "new home" starts.

And more?

bb

Manatee MIGRATE when there are no artificial sources of hot water. The ones
that don't move to warmer water DIE. (aproximately 68f degree water or colder
will kill them) That's from Mote Marine Lab.


Most of those natural springs are gone too.

Where did they go?


The water was pumped out for the people living here. My artesian well is now at
14' down.
It is clear you are probably someone from Chicago or somewhere who really
doesn't have a clue what is going on in the areas that are affected by these
manatee rules.
The JUDGE said the manatee speed laws in Lee County have no basis in science
when they were thrown out. They were drawn simply to placate polititians and
the SMC bearing no reflection on the science of where the manatee go.
There is NOBODY from DEP, USF&G or Fish and Wildlife who are monitoring
manatee on a regular basis. I work with them, I know that.

On 07 Mar 2004 03:37:41 GMT, (Greg) wrote:

It is clear you are probably someone from Chicago or somewhere who really
doesn't have a clue what is going on in the areas that are affected by these
manatee rules.

It's clear, once again, you don't let ignorance keep you from running
your mouth. I've lived on Florida's west coast since 1957. I make my
living on the water, and have for 25 years. I'm very familiar with
the manatee issue on a first hand basis.

If you repeat your lies and misinformation enough times, Greg, no
doubt you'll find someone who will believe you.

bb

Where are you "making your living" on the water? Lee County? That is what we
are talking about

On 07 Mar 2004 05:47:29 GMT, (Greg) wrote:

Where are you "making your living" on the water? Lee County? That is what we
are talking about

Florida, including Lee County. Are you under the mistaken impression
manatees are restricted to Lee County?

bb