"jchaplain" wrote in message
...

All attempts to transform the slush fund by Republicans in recent past
have been met with cries of "The sky is falling" by the various Democrat
Chicken Little's who induce paranoia amongst the largely lgnorant
general public and seniors in particular.

Just listen to yourself....Republicans "transforming" Social
security...

Do you think it's Republicans who protect the interest of the average
guy? or is it Republicans who want to "transform" Social Security to
use the money the way they see fit? ie: using our Social Security
money to pay off Bushs' spending spree...

It is ALWAYS the Democrats who stand to represent the average guy,
while the Republicans ALWAYS back whats good for corporations and big
business tax breaks, just like the current bufoon in the white house
does currently. Face reality. If you really think it's republicans
that protect the interest of the little guy, you've probably been
dropped on your head at one or more points in your life.

Neither party is innocent of using SS as a slush fund! The Dem's in power
now are blocking the SS Lockbox act.

Neither party is innocent of using SS as a slush fund! The Dem's in power
now are blocking the SS Lockbox act.

Thats the problem with republicans, they never look deeper into
issues.
Care to explain what the 'lockbox" act does? Obviously you don't have
a clue.
You might think it locks the SS funds away to be used only by
SS...wrong! Thats what the Republicans would like you to think, so
they put a name on it called 'lockbox' so that the uninformed would
think it was about locking money away for SS use only.....
What it really would do is lock the funds proceeds into being used to
pay down the national debt, which is why the republicans want it and
the democrats do not.
IF it locked the funds to be used only for Social Security, the
Democrats would be all behind it, because the Democrats are FOR the
little guy, not for paying down Bushs debt so he stands a chance at
getting elected again.
If that's to hard for you republicans to understand, please read this
post again SLOWLY....

"jchaplain" wrote in message
...

Neither party is innocent of using SS as a slush fund! The Dem's in
power
now are blocking the SS Lockbox act.

Thats the problem with republicans, they never look deeper into
issues.
Care to explain what the 'lockbox" act does? Obviously you don't have
a clue.
You might think it locks the SS funds away to be used only by
SS...wrong! Thats what the Republicans would like you to think, so
they put a name on it called 'lockbox' so that the uninformed would
think it was about locking money away for SS use only.....
What it really would do is lock the funds proceeds into being used to
pay down the national debt, which is why the republicans want it and
the democrats do not.
IF it locked the funds to be used only for Social Security, the
Democrats would be all behind it, because the Democrats are FOR the
little guy, not for paying down Bushs debt so he stands a chance at
getting elected again.
If that's to hard for you republicans to understand, please read this
post again SLOWLY....

I would rather see it paying down the National debt than the use that is has
been put too for the last 40 years!!! Clinton's touting of a balanced
budget included the SS taxes. Put it in the "Lockbox" and it will not be
part of the spending every year for general budget items. And as a fiscally
conservative Democrat, I despise the candidates for both parties. In the
last election, I voted for Bush as AGore is one of the stupidest people ever
to run for high office. Clinton was almost as crooked as LBJ, and that
takes some doing. Kerry is a Fiscal Liberal, as well as a social Liberal.
I care less about most social restrictions, but I do not want to pay for
your play!!!!!! The Gay Wedding scene. My biggest complaint is the local
judge who did not uphold the law. The judge should have upheld the law and
the plaintiff's could then appeal to higher courts. To many activist judges
making law. Is not their place. They are not the Legislative Branch!
Also, the term marriage seems to be chosen to **** off the most people. We
allow civil unions. A contract, just like marriage is a contract between
two people. As to the next election. Look at the Democrat party's
candidates. Way too much power from the DNC as to who gets to play. Where
is a Truman when we need him.

In article , jchaplain wrote:

All attempts to transform the slush fund by Republicans in recent past
have been met with cries of "The sky is falling" by the various Democrat
Chicken Little's who induce paranoia amongst the largely lgnorant
general public and seniors in particular.

Just listen to yourself....Republicans "transforming" Social
security...

Do you think it's Republicans who protect the interest of the average
guy? or is it Republicans who want to "transform" Social Security to
use the money the way they see fit? ie: using our Social Security
money to pay off Bushs' spending spree...

It is ALWAYS the Democrats who stand to represent the average guy,
while the Republicans ALWAYS back whats good for corporations and big
business tax breaks, just like the current bufoon in the white house
does currently. Face reality. If you really think it's republicans
that protect the interest of the little guy, you've probably been
dropped on your head at one or more points in your life.

The "average guy" eh?

Kind of like the NON-citizens who come here and collect food stamps,
welfare checks, social-security checks, etc.. etc.. do?

And then the bitching comes about proposed cuts in a system that
is being strained to the gills trying to address the problem of every recent
immigrant seeking to import their aged grandparents, great aunts, etc. - all
of whom become eligible for social security and medicare. All these monies
are, of course, drawn out of a system where they have never contributed a
single dime.

Are these the "average" folks that you are talking about? And just WHAT
PARTY subverted the laws and rules to allow this draining of social security
and other programs?

And exactly how does this "represent' the other forgotten folks (the "average"
folks who are AMERICAN CITIZENS)?

And do your really think the the elites who line-up and proclaim to represent
the "average guy" (John Edwards etc...) have any real connection to Joe
working class? Come on....get real....

Speaking of dropped on one's head....


(Trivia Quiz: What Democrat President signed NAFTA into law? NAFTA, now that
is one helluva deal that really protects the "interests of the little guy"
both here and abroad!)

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:35:12 +0000, Henry Blackmoore wrote:


Kind of like the NON-citizens who come here and collect food stamps,
welfare checks, social-security checks, etc.. etc.. do?

And then the bitching comes about proposed cuts in a system that
is being strained to the gills trying to address the problem of every recent
immigrant seeking to import their aged grandparents, great aunts, etc. - all
of whom become eligible for social security and medicare. All these monies
are, of course, drawn out of a system where they have never contributed a
single dime.

You actually believe this? You might want to read:

http://www.network-democracy.org/soc...mmigrants.html

"thunder" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:35:12 +0000, Henry Blackmoore wrote:


Kind of like the NON-citizens who come here and collect food stamps,
welfare checks, social-security checks, etc.. etc.. do?

And then the bitching comes about proposed cuts in a system that
is being strained to the gills trying to address the problem of every
recent
immigrant seeking to import their aged grandparents, great aunts, etc. -
all
of whom become eligible for social security and medicare. All these
monies
are, of course, drawn out of a system where they have never contributed
a
single dime.

You actually believe this? You might want to read:

http://www.network-democracy.org/soc...mmigrants.html

They get SS money but under the guise of SSI. For those who never paid into
the system. Was originally for Farmers, etc. Now immigrants get SSI. And
can be greater payment than someone who has paid into the SS sytem.
Bill

The "average guy" eh?

Kind of like the NON-citizens who come here and collect food stamps,
welfare checks, social-security checks, etc.. etc.. do?

Duh,
no...., average guy, like average american working, middle class.
I know you republicans like to think that your fellow americans (
everyone but you and your bubba buddy at the bar stool next to you,)
are all a bunch of leaches, no-good welfare bums, etc...etc....

Why in hell would you take it that someone speaking of an average
american meant non-citizens who collect food stamps and welfare
checks, etc.....
Your view of what the average american is must be pretty bleak, but
thats typical of the Republican viewpoint. Republicans think the world
is out to screw them, like an angry spoiled child syndrome.

Again it's the average guy that is protected by Democrats. People like
bus drivers, factory workers, office workers.

Republicans look to protect people like Donald Trump and Dick Cheney.
Fact.

In article , jchaplain wrote:


The "average guy" eh?

Kind of like the NON-citizens who come here and collect food stamps,
welfare checks, social-security checks, etc.. etc.. do?

Duh,
no...., average guy, like average american working, middle class.
I know you republicans like to think that your fellow americans (
everyone but you and your bubba buddy at the bar stool next to you,)
are all a bunch of leaches, no-good welfare bums, etc...etc....

Why in hell would you take it that someone speaking of an average
american meant non-citizens who collect food stamps and welfare
checks, etc.....

You missed the point entirely, go back and read it again.

Your view of what the average american is must be pretty bleak,

I normally don't get into typo, spelling and grammar correction but
could you please capitalize the A in American? :^)


but
thats typical of the Republican viewpoint. Republicans think the world
is out to screw them, like an angry spoiled child syndrome.

Again it's the average guy that is protected by Democrats. People like
bus drivers, factory workers, office workers.

Total bull****. Do you seriously eat that bull**** rhetoric up? What
connection does Teddy Kennedy have with an AVERAGE guy?

What does an Edwards relate to the little guy?

How does Barney Frank relate to the average joe?

How does Joe Liberman's lifestyle compare to a factory worker?

My point in the earlier post was that the Democrats have screwed
the "average guy" just as much as anybody else has if not more.

NAFTA was signed into law by a Democrat President.

How is NAFTA helping the "average" guy?

How is saddling this country with debt to pay for benefits to
illegal aliens and to require healthcare and schooling for them
when we can't even afford to pay for the same for the folk's that
live here? How is this helping the little average guy huh? Explain this to
me?



Republicans look to protect people like Donald Trump and Dick Cheney.
Fact.

yeah right.

Go ahead and live with your blinders on if it makes you feel better but
remember when you take them off that the real wold awaits you.

The whole premise of your post is total bull****, which of course is
no surprise being the political whore you are. Anyone who would
address it further than that is just as stupid as you...

On 26 Feb 2004 05:50:49 -0800, (Backyard
Renegade) wrote:

The whole premise of your post is total bull****, which of course is
no surprise being the political whore you are.

You express yourself so well. If things continue on the current
course, you soon won't have the right to express yourself in such a
manner.

Anyone who would
address it further than that is just as stupid as you...

Well, it looks like more than a few of your compatriots did address it
further, just as you did. In your case, I'd say you've overestimated
your intelligence.

bb