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Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
"Don White" wrote in message
... I haven't decided if you really are as dumb as advertised or just another poor excuse for a troll. If I remember correctly, the labour component in a vehicle price was about $1500.00 SNIP Balance of mis rememberance The cost of Health insurance ALONE is estimated at $1200 per car: http://www.detnews.com/2004/editoria.../a12-25328.htm I (a retired auto worker) was told on more than 1 occasion that health/unemployment/workers comp/disability benefits added about $3500 per car. This is an early 90s figure. |
Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
"tbd" wrote in message ...
"Don White" wrote in message ... I haven't decided if you really are as dumb as advertised or just another poor excuse for a troll. If I remember correctly, the labour component in a vehicle price was about $1500.00 SNIP Balance of mis rememberance The cost of Health insurance ALONE is estimated at $1200 per car: http://www.detnews.com/2004/editoria.../a12-25328.htm I (a retired auto worker) was told on more than 1 occasion that health/unemployment/workers comp/disability benefits added about $3500 per car. This is an early 90s figure. Just more proof off Hairball Kraus' hypocrisy........ what are those costs in Japan where Hairball's Yamaha was made? |
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Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
John H wrote:
On 23 Feb 2004 07:56:36 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: Where did I say that I love unions? I simply stated that Yamaha U.S.A.'s operations centers, distribution centers, etc. use organized labor. You don't have a freakin' CLUE what the thread was about. Where did I "defend" unions? Which was more bull****, by the way. John H John spent his career in the military and is used to more bull****. |
Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
Harry Krause wrote in message ...
John spent his career in the military and is used to more bull****. Speaking of bull****, Hairball, tell us about that Japanese outboard and your love for US unions. |
Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 18:43:53 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: John H wrote: On 23 Feb 2004 07:56:36 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: Where did I say that I love unions? I simply stated that Yamaha U.S.A.'s operations centers, distribution centers, etc. use organized labor. You don't have a freakin' CLUE what the thread was about. Where did I "defend" unions? Which was more bull****, by the way. John H John spent his career in the military and is used to more bull****. And is well able to recognize that coming from Krause, Kerry, Klark, and kisser. By the way, Harry, you have often commented on the millions of jobs supposedly lost due to Bush's policies. Could you please cite which policy (or policies) of Bush were the cause of the job losses? John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:15:56 -0500 (EST), "Harry Krause"
wrote: John H wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 18:43:53 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: John H wrote: On 23 Feb 2004 07:56:36 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: Where did I say that I love unions? I simply stated that Yamaha U.S.A.'s operations centers, distribution centers, etc. use organized labor. You don't have a freakin' CLUE what the thread was about. Where did I "defend" unions? Which was more bull****, by the way. John H John spent his career in the military and is used to more bull****. And is well able to recognize that coming from Krause, Kerry, Klark, and kisser. By the way, Harry, you have often commented on the millions of jobs supposedly lost due to Bush's policies. Could you please cite which policy (or policies) of Bush were the cause of the job losses? John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! The failure to take his recession seriously, and the continuing failures to take actions that lead directly to employment gains. Tax cuts for the rich aren't hacking it, unless you are into voodoo. I could provide a long, detailed answer, but for what? You aren't worth any effort. I was just looking for more bull**** to recognize, Harry. You ably provided same. Thanks! John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
John H wrote in message . ..
On 23 Feb 2004 07:56:36 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: Where did I say that I love unions? I simply stated that Yamaha U.S.A.'s operations centers, distribution centers, etc. use organized labor. You don't have a freakin' CLUE what the thread was about. Where did I "defend" unions? Which was more bull****, by the way. Prove me wrong! Provide the name of that alleged lady you spoke to at Yamaha, U.S.A. Liar. |
Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
basskisser wrote: Prove me wrong! Provide the name of that alleged lady you spoke to at Yamaha, U.S.A. Liar. So if John provided the name of this lady, then he wouldn't be a liar? And you'd be proved wrong? uh huh. There's no way you *ever* admit being wrong about anything, b'asskisser. Carry on. -- Charlie |
Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
Asskisser,, are you some kind of a total moron? If I mentioned I had spoken
to a call center person or technical support staff representative. Then mentioned the name, only for you to call a few weeks later, ask the person to look over their notes, then reveal the names, locations, other private information, only for you dummies to broadcast it over the world's information networks. Duh,,, give the empty head a shake there asskisser, I wouldn't want you to get in the middle of my warranty transactions or negotiations. Do you know how much a simpleton like yourself could really screw something up? And your puppet masters there also, I mean, look what you morons did to the economy on a whole, you think I would want you dummies to destroy on an individual level also? Come on there asskisser, you really have no clue do you. Just a big mouth on the keyboard, but no brains to back up that big mouth. "basskisser" wrote in message om... John H wrote in message Sorry, I guess I got you confused with basskisser. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! You are easily confused. Just like when you thought that everyone would buy your lie about contacting Yamaha, U.S.A. Do you have the contact's name yet? If not, why not call *her* back, and GET her name. I really would love to talk to her. basskisser, you lost that round so long ago............. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! Uh, how so, John? What evidence do you have that Yamaha, U.S.A., and it's wholly owned subsidiaries are not using organized labor. If you will call that nice lady back, that you claim to have had a conversation with, get her name, and I'll talk to her. Then we can settle this. Agree? |
Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
Gene ,,, duh,,,,
Here we go again,, another union dummie out of the closet. Gene, don't try to blame the world or the corporations for the present job migration or economic problems, the main factor is you and your dummy union members. Come on, you think that this 500 billion trade deficit is something that will go away? Duh,,,, Come on, give the head a shake. "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:19:05 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: "Gene Kearns" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:29:08 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: Well, here's a non-rhetorical question: How do you keep jobs from going overseas when the employee costs to the corporations are reduced by 90%? That isn't the right question, that is a defeatist's question. The proper question is, why have our elected officials stood there like goggle-eyed tourists and watched it happen? .... and continue to do so. For the same reason you avoided answering my question...there's no easy, short-term fix. And at what point did I suggest that it was? I didn't answer your question, as asked, because it forces the issue to *be* simplistic. This isn't *just* about disparity in personal income or collective bargaining.... as your sock puppet Tuuk implies... and where the notion emerged. If you conceive the world as one economy (which is really what this is all about), with the poorest 3 countries with a GDP of less than $560 and the richest three countries with a GDP of over $33,000... This is obviously not a level playing field and unless you'd like to assume a lifestyle much closer to the $560 than the $33,000, you'd better accept some form of "field leveling" technology, taxes, tariffs, whatever Let's look at your solutions: 1) "field leveling" technology-- how would that help? Then you'd have robots doing the labor instead of $2/day Chinamen You do, now, and in this country and abroad. 2) taxes-- on who? Corporations? Then they'd just cut even deeper into the employee costs Taxing foreign corporations is fine. Actually, to tax a corporation is merely to state that the government has selected that company as a collector of XYZ tax. You really can't tax a corporation, but if I could somehow "level the field" by increasing the "employee costs in the foreign country..... 3) tariffs-- don't work. The Hawley-Smoot Tariff just managed to deepen and prolong the Great Depression. The recent steel tariff that Bush tried just ended up increasing costs to the manufacturers and end-users that depended upon it Nobody in their right mind would have thought the tariff on steel would work. But... Could we just try *something* workable? You don't see that America is being harmed by trade practices that allow (for example) Harbor Freight to sell a roughly 35# anvil for $35.00???? Disregard, if you wish, the labor cost, the material cost, import fees (if any) and see if you can ship that thing BACK to ROC for the $35.00 sale price. Oh, yeah, and I suspect that Harbor Freight paid *less* than $35.00 (probably around $17-$18) for the item.... ship it back for that. to bring the 59:1 discrepancy more in line with something workable. The best thing we can do is require that the governments who want to do business with us impose similar regulations (Fair Labor Standards, environmental controls, etc) on their manufacturing sector as we impose on ours. Sounds like "field leveling" to me. Anybody, no matter how incompetent, can run a business with these sorts of discrepancies.... and this is borne out in the all time high (Feb '04) trade deficit figures. With high tech jobs and industries, now headed overseas in droves... for the same reasons..... things aren't going to get any better just standing there watching it happen. I agree with your assessment, above, and is what I was referring to as "field leveling," but I'm not opposed to reasonable tariffs. I don't think that any correlation between today and the Great Depression is valid, nor do I think simple tariffs, on steel for example, will work. If steel producing countries can't sell to US at a profit, then they will sell to other countries. Gosh, though. How does that work? We charge a tariff on steel.... so they sell to ROC. ROC turns the steel into anvils and sells them back to us for less than we can even ship them.... this making sense to you?? Oh and on another matter... since I've held you in suspense long enough, I'll put it in dentisty terms, so that you will grasp the concept. On the matter of removing the cam and checking the valve clearance for $1000: This is analogous to a patient coming to you for you to measure the distance between two of their teeth. So.... you remove one of the teeth, measure the distance between them and then charge $1000 for services rendered. Now, see why you shouldn't post stuff you read at other places that you don't really understand? -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Southport, NC. http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/cavern/ Homepage http://www.southharbourvillage.com/directions.asp Where Southport,NC is located. http://www.southharbourvillage.com/autoupdater.htm Real Time Pictures at My Marina http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide |
Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
Harry,,,
You really are a moron,,, with no economic knowledge, or basic common sense. You can go out on your boat all day if you want,, me to,,, the only difference is I earned mine, honestly and feel good about it. Your earnings came from collective bargaining, uncompetitive labor, inflation causing factors. You may have well been on welfare you union dummies. You are totally unproductive, totally uncompetitive, totally inefficient. Wow, the Japanese can provide me with an auto for about 4000 dollars, and you can provide me with the same auto for around 35000. And you want me to listen to your Bush bashing and your comments of economics. Duh,,,,,,, "Harry Krause" wrote in message news:c3dhc2g=.c294978c5c95b422d6286c0b0a3f2527@107 7628556.nulluser.com... John H wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 18:43:53 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: John H wrote: On 23 Feb 2004 07:56:36 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: Where did I say that I love unions? I simply stated that Yamaha U.S.A.'s operations centers, distribution centers, etc. use organized labor. You don't have a freakin' CLUE what the thread was about. Where did I "defend" unions? Which was more bull****, by the way. John H John spent his career in the military and is used to more bull****. And is well able to recognize that coming from Krause, Kerry, Klark, and kisser. By the way, Harry, you have often commented on the millions of jobs supposedly lost due to Bush's policies. Could you please cite which policy (or policies) of Bush were the cause of the job losses? John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! The failure to take his recession seriously, and the continuing failures to take actions that lead directly to employment gains. Tax cuts for the rich aren't hacking it, unless you are into voodoo. I could provide a long, detailed answer, but for what? You aren't worth any effort. |
Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
John H wrote in message . ..
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:15:56 -0500 (EST), "Harry Krause" wrote: John H wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 18:43:53 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: John H wrote: On 23 Feb 2004 07:56:36 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: Where did I say that I love unions? I simply stated that Yamaha U.S.A.'s operations centers, distribution centers, etc. use organized labor. You don't have a freakin' CLUE what the thread was about. Where did I "defend" unions? Which was more bull****, by the way. John H John spent his career in the military and is used to more bull****. And is well able to recognize that coming from Krause, Kerry, Klark, and kisser. By the way, Harry, you have often commented on the millions of jobs supposedly lost due to Bush's policies. Could you please cite which policy (or policies) of Bush were the cause of the job losses? John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! The failure to take his recession seriously, and the continuing failures to take actions that lead directly to employment gains. Tax cuts for the rich aren't hacking it, unless you are into voodoo. I could provide a long, detailed answer, but for what? You aren't worth any effort. I was just looking for more bull**** to recognize, Harry. You ably provided same. Thanks! John H Speaking of bull****, can you post the name of the person you allegedly spoke with at Yamaha, USA? |
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