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John H February 9th 04 09:33 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
On 9 Feb 2004 12:10:02 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

(Backyard Renegade) wrote in message
So, we know Harry is a liar. No arguements there? Now the facts seem
to be out on Basskisser, another one who will state anything during a
debate, without reguard to truth. So now we are making progress. If we
now dismiss both Harry and Bass, the whole damn group would soon be
about boats again. Just don't address the lies, we all know they are
lies. Put the Boats back into rec.boats...


Oh, horse****! You right bent, bush lovers post just as much off topic
as ANYBODY on the left does.


I think, basskisser, the gist of the post had to do with truth (or
lack thereof).

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H February 9th 04 09:33 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
On 9 Feb 2004 12:05:53 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message news:5nBUb.12504
Burned yet another bridge, eh, Johnny?


Bridge? basskisser is a bridge to land of the idiots...and you're his toll
collector.


What an ignorant putz you are. You continue to amaze me with your
stupidity. I mean, look at you, you have NOTHING of any substance to
interject into the thread, yet continue to blather.


Would you, basskisser, consider your post to be of *substance*?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Charles February 10th 04 03:36 AM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 


B'asskisser wrote:

Oh, horse****! You right bent, bush lovers post just as much off topic
as ANYBODY on the left does.


krause, an extremest lefty, has started more off-topic posts in the past
two weeks, running a close second to jim dunce the pointy head. Things
are getting paniky on the left it seems.

That's a fact. Come'on, take the stupid helmet off b'asskisser and let
some light shine in.

-- Charlie


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basskisser February 10th 04 11:17 AM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
Charles wrote in message ...
B'asskisser wrote:

Oh, horse****! You right bent, bush lovers post just as much off topic
as ANYBODY on the left does.


krause, an extremest lefty, has started more off-topic posts in the past
two weeks, running a close second to jim dunce the pointy head. Things
are getting paniky on the left it seems.

That's a fact. Come'on, take the stupid helmet off b'asskisser and let
some light shine in.



Another off topic post by a righty.

basskisser February 10th 04 11:19 AM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
John H wrote in message . ..
On 9 Feb 2004 12:10:02 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

(Backyard Renegade) wrote in message
So, we know Harry is a liar. No arguements there? Now the facts seem
to be out on Basskisser, another one who will state anything during a
debate, without reguard to truth. So now we are making progress. If we
now dismiss both Harry and Bass, the whole damn group would soon be
about boats again. Just don't address the lies, we all know they are
lies. Put the Boats back into rec.boats...


Oh, horse****! You right bent, bush lovers post just as much off topic
as ANYBODY on the left does.


I think, basskisser, the gist of the post had to do with truth (or
lack thereof).

John H


Then you think wrong.

basskisser February 10th 04 11:21 AM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
John H wrote in message . ..
On 9 Feb 2004 12:05:53 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message news:5nBUb.12504
Burned yet another bridge, eh, Johnny?

Bridge? basskisser is a bridge to land of the idiots...and you're his toll
collector.


What an ignorant putz you are. You continue to amaze me with your
stupidity. I mean, look at you, you have NOTHING of any substance to
interject into the thread, yet continue to blather.


Would you, basskisser, consider your post to be of *substance*?

John H


Simply replying to someone writing directly about ME, so yes. Also,
I've interjected much into this thread. Now, let's get back to that
fictitious person you talked to at Yamaha, U.S.A. that said there were
no unions in Yamaha, U.S.A. owned support centers, distribution
centers, etc. WHAT WAS HER NAME?

Charles February 10th 04 02:07 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 


basskisser wrote:

Charles wrote in message ...
B'asskisser wrote:

Oh, horse****! You right bent, bush lovers post just as much off topic
as ANYBODY on the left does.


krause, an extremest lefty, has started more off-topic posts in the past
two weeks, running a close second to jim dunce the pointy head. Things
are getting paniky on the left it seems.

That's a fact. Come'on, take the stupid helmet off b'asskisser and let
some light shine in.


Another off topic post by a righty.


Another off topic post by a lefty.

So there. na-na na-na-na. Keep it up and I'll start saying bad things
about your mother.

-- Charlie


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John H February 10th 04 05:33 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
On 10 Feb 2004 03:21:26 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On 9 Feb 2004 12:05:53 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message news:5nBUb.12504
Burned yet another bridge, eh, Johnny?

Bridge? basskisser is a bridge to land of the idiots...and you're his toll
collector.

What an ignorant putz you are. You continue to amaze me with your
stupidity. I mean, look at you, you have NOTHING of any substance to
interject into the thread, yet continue to blather.


Would you, basskisser, consider your post to be of *substance*?

John H


Simply replying to someone writing directly about ME, so yes. Also,
I've interjected much into this thread. Now, let's get back to that
fictitious person you talked to at Yamaha, U.S.A. that said there were
no unions in Yamaha, U.S.A. owned support centers, distribution
centers, etc. WHAT WAS HER NAME?


The fictitious person was the nice young lady who answers the phone at
the headquarters number that I provided, in Cypress, CA. I don't need
her name. If you need her name, call her.

Basskisser, you tried to spread a little bull****, and it didn't't
work. Now...cry yourself a river, get some wood, build a bridge, and
get over it.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

basskisser February 11th 04 12:11 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
John H wrote in message . ..
On 10 Feb 2004 03:21:26 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On 9 Feb 2004 12:05:53 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message news:5nBUb.12504
Burned yet another bridge, eh, Johnny?

Bridge? basskisser is a bridge to land of the idiots...and you're his toll
collector.

What an ignorant putz you are. You continue to amaze me with your
stupidity. I mean, look at you, you have NOTHING of any substance to
interject into the thread, yet continue to blather.

Would you, basskisser, consider your post to be of *substance*?

John H


Simply replying to someone writing directly about ME, so yes. Also,
I've interjected much into this thread. Now, let's get back to that
fictitious person you talked to at Yamaha, U.S.A. that said there were
no unions in Yamaha, U.S.A. owned support centers, distribution
centers, etc. WHAT WAS HER NAME?


The fictitious person was the nice young lady who answers the phone at
the headquarters number that I provided, in Cypress, CA. I don't need
her name. If you need her name, call her.

Basskisser, you tried to spread a little bull****, and it didn't't
work. Now...cry yourself a river, get some wood, build a bridge, and
get over it.

John H


John, you were caught dead in a lie, and you know it. Funny, when I
called the headquarters, in Cypress, CA, NO ONE remembers that
conversation. It's time to fess up, John. You know damned well you
lied, because if you had went to all of that trouble to prove a point,
and forgot to get a name, you'd be less intelligent than I thought.
What good would that exercise be without any relevant information?

John H February 11th 04 05:13 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
On 11 Feb 2004 04:11:54 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On 10 Feb 2004 03:21:26 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On 9 Feb 2004 12:05:53 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message news:5nBUb.12504
Burned yet another bridge, eh, Johnny?

Bridge? basskisser is a bridge to land of the idiots...and you're his toll
collector.

What an ignorant putz you are. You continue to amaze me with your
stupidity. I mean, look at you, you have NOTHING of any substance to
interject into the thread, yet continue to blather.

Would you, basskisser, consider your post to be of *substance*?

John H


Simply replying to someone writing directly about ME, so yes. Also,
I've interjected much into this thread. Now, let's get back to that
fictitious person you talked to at Yamaha, U.S.A. that said there were
no unions in Yamaha, U.S.A. owned support centers, distribution
centers, etc. WHAT WAS HER NAME?


The fictitious person was the nice young lady who answers the phone at
the headquarters number that I provided, in Cypress, CA. I don't need
her name. If you need her name, call her.

Basskisser, you tried to spread a little bull****, and it didn't't
work. Now...cry yourself a river, get some wood, build a bridge, and
get over it.

John H


John, you were caught dead in a lie, and you know it. Funny, when I
called the headquarters, in Cypress, CA, NO ONE remembers that
conversation. It's time to fess up, John. You know damned well you
lied, because if you had went to all of that trouble to prove a point,
and forgot to get a name, you'd be less intelligent than I thought.
What good would that exercise be without any relevant information?


Right. You're starting to sound like a whining crybaby. If I were you
I'd just drop it.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

basskisser February 12th 04 01:59 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
John H wrote in message . ..
On 11 Feb 2004 04:11:54 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On 10 Feb 2004 03:21:26 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On 9 Feb 2004 12:05:53 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message news:5nBUb.12504
Burned yet another bridge, eh, Johnny?

Bridge? basskisser is a bridge to land of the idiots...and you're his toll
collector.

What an ignorant putz you are. You continue to amaze me with your
stupidity. I mean, look at you, you have NOTHING of any substance to
interject into the thread, yet continue to blather.

Would you, basskisser, consider your post to be of *substance*?

John H


Simply replying to someone writing directly about ME, so yes. Also,
I've interjected much into this thread. Now, let's get back to that
fictitious person you talked to at Yamaha, U.S.A. that said there were
no unions in Yamaha, U.S.A. owned support centers, distribution
centers, etc. WHAT WAS HER NAME?

The fictitious person was the nice young lady who answers the phone at
the headquarters number that I provided, in Cypress, CA. I don't need
her name. If you need her name, call her.

Basskisser, you tried to spread a little bull****, and it didn't't
work. Now...cry yourself a river, get some wood, build a bridge, and
get over it.

John H


John, you were caught dead in a lie, and you know it. Funny, when I
called the headquarters, in Cypress, CA, NO ONE remembers that
conversation. It's time to fess up, John. You know damned well you
lied, because if you had went to all of that trouble to prove a point,
and forgot to get a name, you'd be less intelligent than I thought.
What good would that exercise be without any relevant information?


Right. You're starting to sound like a whining crybaby. If I were you
I'd just drop it.

John H


No, you mean that you WANT me to drop it, because I've made you out to
be a liar. Why am I a crybaby, because I've either exposed your lie,
or at the very least shown your shortcomings. Please address the above
paragraph I've written. If you had went to all of that trouble, why
didn't you provide the relevent information?

Christopher Robin February 12th 04 11:16 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
thunder wrote in message ...
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 10:39:48 -0500, Tuuk wrote:

Here you go with your love for unions again basskisser, with all the damage
unions have done to the west, one must wonder how you can still associate
let alone defend unions.
Give your head a shake.



Yup, all sorts of damage, child labor laws, 40 hour work week, safe
working conditions, living wage. You can argue they have outlived their
usefulness, but on the whole, unions have done far more good than damage.


Buy a Yamaha Outboard and send an American union job to Japan.

Tuuk February 13th 04 07:49 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
Thunder

Give the head a shake there dummy, you have no clue of what your talking
about. What your saying is that the unions are responsible for our 40 hour
work week, child labor laws, safe working conditions, living wages,, come on
there Thunder, I thought that our government and labor laws were responsible
for those.
Don't try to defend your unions, you cannot, they have done so much damage
for us here in the west that it is irreversible.
Thunder, if you and your buddy asskisser don't know what your talking about,
then shut it.







"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 10:39:48 -0500, Tuuk wrote:

Here you go with your love for unions again basskisser, with all the

damage
unions have done to the west, one must wonder how you can still

associate
let alone defend unions.
Give your head a shake.



Yup, all sorts of damage, child labor laws, 40 hour work week, safe
working conditions, living wage. You can argue they have outlived their
usefulness, but on the whole, unions have done far more good than damage.




Don White February 13th 04 08:00 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
Are you really as stupid as you sound?
The governments would have done little or nothing if not for lobbying by
unions and socialist groups.
I think you'd be wise to take your own advice.


Tuuk wrote in message
...
Thunder

Give the head a shake there dummy, you have no clue of what your talking
about. What your saying is that the unions are responsible for our 40 hour
work week, child labor laws, safe working conditions, living wages,, come

on
there Thunder, I thought that our government and labor laws were

responsible
for those.
Don't try to defend your unions, you cannot, they have done so much damage
for us here in the west that it is irreversible.
Thunder, if you and your buddy asskisser don't know what your talking

about,
then shut it.







"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 10:39:48 -0500, Tuuk wrote:

Here you go with your love for unions again basskisser, with all the

damage
unions have done to the west, one must wonder how you can still

associate
let alone defend unions.
Give your head a shake.



Yup, all sorts of damage, child labor laws, 40 hour work week, safe
working conditions, living wage. You can argue they have outlived their
usefulness, but on the whole, unions have done far more good than

damage.





Tuuk February 16th 04 11:18 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
Are you really as stupid as you sound?



"""""The governments would have done little or nothing if not for lobbying

by
unions and socialist groups.
I think you'd be wise to take your own advice.""""



Hey stupid,,, who said anything needed to be done? Come on , you need the
government to tell you when to eat? when to ****? when to work? when to
sleep? when to shower? when to shave? when to do this ? and when to do that?
Come on simpleton, give your head a shake, your a big boy , you certainly
could make some decisions on your own,,,,

And because you couldn't ,, look what you dumb union members have done. YOu
have caused all these job migrations.

Then you ignorant labor try to bad mouth those in a more labor co-operative
environment by saying things like "the children go to sweat shops with no
shoes" wa, wa, wa, cry me another river, bring yourself some wood, build
yourself a bridge and get over it.

You dumb moron union greedy teamsters etc etc are what ruined the west and
jobs, and you morons blame it on someone else,,

So the government has done little or nothing you say,,, but you morons do
not realize is that the market will decide globally.




Tuuk wrote in message
...
Thunder

Give the head a shake there dummy, you have no clue of what your talking
about. What your saying is that the unions are responsible for our 40

hour
work week, child labor laws, safe working conditions, living wages,,

come
on
there Thunder, I thought that our government and labor laws were

responsible
for those.
Don't try to defend your unions, you cannot, they have done so much

damage
for us here in the west that it is irreversible.
Thunder, if you and your buddy asskisser don't know what your talking

about,
then shut it.







"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 10:39:48 -0500, Tuuk wrote:

Here you go with your love for unions again basskisser, with all the

damage
unions have done to the west, one must wonder how you can still

associate
let alone defend unions.
Give your head a shake.


Yup, all sorts of damage, child labor laws, 40 hour work week, safe
working conditions, living wage. You can argue they have outlived

their
usefulness, but on the whole, unions have done far more good than

damage.







Don White February 17th 04 12:04 AM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
Do you ever remove your head from your ass long enough to see daylight?



Tuuk February 17th 04 01:51 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
No time to stick my head up my ass, especially on company time. We leave
that for you union reps who need time to think.

Too busy running a company with a few hundred other valuable employees.

None of us feel the need to bite the owners hand,
none of us feel the need to disrupt business operations with bull****
typical of union business.
None of us feel the need to collectively unite to screw the owners, who have
the most risk, who have the most invested, who are there twice as long as I,
who deserve what little bit more is left over, if any. You union cry babies
have reduced that little profit left over to near nothing, forcing
businesses to more labor friendlier environment. Face it, you union morons
did this because you haven't the knowledge, no education, you only advanced
because of your own demanding, ridiculous and forced input to the operations
of the firm.

So what do you not understand there Harry and Don White ?

Try answering that question without the insults only, I mean you can include
your childish insulting, but try to answer the question.
How do you think the unions are NOT responsible for this business migration?
Don't give me your bull**** about labor laws, rights, abuse, people going to
work without shoes on their feet, all the regular stupid union
unknowledgeable and repeated over and over again because you cannot think
for yourself bull,,,
Why do you think the unions are not responsible?





"Don White" wrote in message
...
Do you ever remove your head from your ass long enough to see daylight?





Don White February 17th 04 02:30 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
What company are you with. I'll send your queries along to the Quebec
Federation of Labour.
They will be happy to 'educate you' on the particular circumstances in your
area and type of business.
..



John H February 17th 04 10:39 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:19:19 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 08:51:57 -0500, " Tuuk"
wrote:

You union cry babies
have reduced that little profit left over to near nothing, forcing
businesses to more labor friendlier environment. Face it, you union morons
did this because you haven't the knowledge, no education, you only advanced
because of your own demanding, ridiculous and forced input to the operations
of the firm.


How do you think the unions are NOT responsible for this business migration?
Don't give me your bull**** about labor laws, rights, abuse, people going to
work without shoes on their feet, all the regular stupid union
unknowledgeable and repeated over and over again because you cannot think
for yourself bull,,,
Why do you think the unions are not responsible?


You seem to have a lot of answers. Perhaps you can explain this. North
Carolina is a right-to-work state. That means there are *very* few
union shops and that if the company you work for *has* a union, you
can't be forced to become a member.

Companies have moved out of North Carolina in droves, headed for
countries in which the citizens can work for $.10 on the dollar
compared to an American wage, and still eke out an existence. More
often than not, these companies move to countries that have health
care at least subsidized by the foreign government.... thus, they need
not offer any health benefits.

So, since, at least in North Carolina, unions are not to blame......
why is this happening?


Because cheaper labor increases the profit margin.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Don White February 18th 04 12:09 AM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
At least John helped out this Tuuk character. Probably saved him a couple
nights anguish trying to answer the question.

Gene Kearns wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:39:19 -0500, John H
wrote:


Because cheaper labor increases the profit margin.


Thanks, John, but I sorta considered it a rhetorical question....

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John H February 18th 04 02:26 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:44:46 -0500, "Gene Kearns"
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:39:19 -0500, John H
wrote:


Because cheaper labor increases the profit margin.


Thanks, John, but I sorta considered it a rhetorical question....


Sorry, I guess I got you confused with basskisser.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

NOYB February 18th 04 02:29 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:39:19 -0500, John H
wrote:


Because cheaper labor increases the profit margin.


Thanks, John, but I sorta considered it a rhetorical question....


Well, here's a non-rhetorical question:
How do you keep jobs from going overseas when the employee costs to the
corporations are reduced by 90%?



Tuuk February 18th 04 03:24 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
So you couldn't answer the question.

Don, Bass, come on, it is an easy question. How haven't the unions caused
this massive migration? You seem to think that the unions are the best thing
here in the west since whatever, but you dummies failed to see the damage
that they have been bottling up, and finally this bottle released. You union
dummies have screwed the west once and for all. Lets look at a say 10 year
frame here, in 10 or even 20 years window. What do you think the
unemployment rate will be? What do you think the debt will be? The states is
near 7trillion, Canada near 600billion,
See you union dummies tried to do some thinking, you forced yourselves to
have say in the firm. You collectively made changes in the whole economic
situation and you screwed up. Now the entire western economic structure will
be disrupted because of your stupidity and greed.
There, I answered the question for you morons.






"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:39:19 -0500, John H
wrote:


Because cheaper labor increases the profit margin.


Thanks, John, but I sorta considered it a rhetorical question....


Well, here's a non-rhetorical question:
How do you keep jobs from going overseas when the employee costs to the
corporations are reduced by 90%?





NOYB February 18th 04 05:19 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:29:08 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


Well, here's a non-rhetorical question:
How do you keep jobs from going overseas when the employee costs to the
corporations are reduced by 90%?


That isn't the right question, that is a defeatist's question. The
proper question is, why have our elected officials stood there like
goggle-eyed tourists and watched it happen? .... and continue to do
so.


For the same reason you avoided answering my question...there's no easy,
short-term fix.

If you conceive the world as one economy (which is really what this is
all about), with the poorest 3 countries with a GDP of less than $560
and the richest three countries with a GDP of over $33,000...


This is obviously not a level playing field and unless you'd like to
assume a lifestyle much closer to the $560 than the $33,000, you'd
better accept some form of "field leveling" technology, taxes,
tariffs, whatever


Let's look at your solutions:
1) "field leveling" technology--
how would that help? Then you'd have robots doing the labor instead of
$2/day Chinamen

2) taxes--
on who? Corporations? Then they'd just cut even deeper into the employee
costs

3) tariffs--

don't work. The Hawley-Smoot Tariff just managed to deepen and prolong the
Great Depression. The recent steel tariff that Bush tried just ended up
increasing costs to the manufacturers and end-users that depended upon it

4) whatever--
I like this solution.


to bring the 59:1 discrepancy more in line with
something workable.


The best thing we can do is require that the governments who want to do
business with us impose similar regulations (Fair Labor Standards,
environmental controls, etc) on their manufacturing sector as we impose on
ours.


Anybody, no matter how incompetent, can run a business with these
sorts of discrepancies.... and this is borne out in the all time high
(Feb '04) trade deficit figures. With high tech jobs and industries,
now headed overseas in droves... for the same reasons..... things
aren't going to get any better just standing there watching it happen.


Agreed. But you still haven't answered the question: What's *your*
solution?



basskisser February 18th 04 07:09 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
John H wrote in message . ..
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:44:46 -0500, "Gene Kearns"
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:39:19 -0500, John H
wrote:


Because cheaper labor increases the profit margin.


Thanks, John, but I sorta considered it a rhetorical question....


Sorry, I guess I got you confused with basskisser.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


You are easily confused. Just like when you thought that everyone
would buy your lie about contacting Yamaha, U.S.A. Do you have the
contact's name yet? If not, why not call *her* back, and GET her name.
I really would love to talk to her.

basskisser February 18th 04 07:15 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
" Tuuk" wrote in message ...
Thunder

Give the head a shake there dummy, you have no clue of what your talking
about. What your saying is that the unions are responsible for our 40 hour
work week, child labor laws, safe working conditions, living wages,, come on
there Thunder, I thought that our government and labor laws were responsible
for those.
Don't try to defend your unions, you cannot, they have done so much damage
for us here in the west that it is irreversible.
Thunder, if you and your buddy asskisser don't know what your talking about,
then shut it.


Shut "it" for me, you idiot! I realize that you are dumber than a
post, but here it is in a nutshell. Before organized labor in the
United States, there was no incentive for a 40 hour work week, nor
child labor laws. The UNIONS are the ones that got our government to
realize these situations, and do something about them. The unions of
today serve the same damn purpose, to lobby our government for new and
better laws to protect us. You are a moron if you think that the
government would have done anything otherwise.

basskisser February 18th 04 08:30 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
"NOYB" wrote in message news:UEKYb.9860
Well, here's a non-rhetorical question:
How do you keep jobs from going overseas when the employee costs to the
corporations are reduced by 90%?


By making a comparable economy. Quite simple, actually. The cost of
production is hugely influenced by lining the cofers of the
corporations. Multi million dollar wages, etc. Inflation. If we reduce
the cost of living, then we can reduce the cost of doing business in
the U.S. as opposed to other countries. You do understand that, in
some of those other countries, if a person were to make $10.00 per
hour, they would be rich, don't you? So, it's a question of GLOBAL
economy.

Don White February 18th 04 08:31 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
Not too bright, are you?
Canada has been showing a surplus the last few years and using some (not
much) to pay down the debt.
Therefore, one has to assume the debt will actually shrink ...not grow.
From your posts I get the impression you are some kind of low level
supervisor in a small industry.
Keep sucking up to the bosses and you might get to supervise a whole
department of 'call centre' employees.


Tuuk wrote in message
...
So you couldn't answer the question.

Don, Bass, come on, it is an easy question. How haven't the unions caused
this massive migration? You seem to think that the unions are the best

thing
here in the west since whatever, but you dummies failed to see the damage
that they have been bottling up, and finally this bottle released. You

union
dummies have screwed the west once and for all. Lets look at a say 10 year
frame here, in 10 or even 20 years window. What do you think the
unemployment rate will be? What do you think the debt will be? The states

is
near 7trillion, Canada near 600billion,
See you union dummies tried to do some thinking, you forced yourselves to
have say in the firm. You collectively made changes in the whole economic
situation and you screwed up. Now the entire western economic structure

will
be disrupted because of your stupidity and greed.
There, I answered the question for you morons.






"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:39:19 -0500, John H
wrote:


Because cheaper labor increases the profit margin.


Thanks, John, but I sorta considered it a rhetorical question....


Well, here's a non-rhetorical question:
How do you keep jobs from going overseas when the employee costs to the
corporations are reduced by 90%?







Christopher Robin February 18th 04 08:47 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 

Where did I say that I love unions? I simply stated that Yamaha
U.S.A.'s operations centers, distribution centers, etc. use organized
labor. You don't have a freakin' CLUE what the thread was about.
Where did I "defend" unions?


Why would someone like Dirtball Kraus claim he love Unions and would then
purchase a Japanese outboard?

NOYB February 18th 04 08:51 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message news:UEKYb.9860
Well, here's a non-rhetorical question:
How do you keep jobs from going overseas when the employee costs to the
corporations are reduced by 90%?


By making a comparable economy. Quite simple, actually. The cost of
production is hugely influenced by lining the cofers of the
corporations. Multi million dollar wages, etc. Inflation. If we reduce
the cost of living,


LOL. basskisser favors *DEFLATION* as a means to stop the efflux of
jobs!?!?

The cost of living has gotten that way because many overpaid union people
are earning three times what the prevailing wage would be if free-market
forces were allowed to take place. The COL has also risen because of the
abundance of cheap money via financing. You can finance virtually anything
nowadays.

People from all levels of income believe they have a right to expensive
electronics, nice cars, the latest appliances, etc. If we all lived within
our means, there'd be less demand for the items, and they'd cost less.





John H February 18th 04 10:48 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
On 18 Feb 2004 11:09:34 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:44:46 -0500, "Gene Kearns"
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:39:19 -0500, John H
wrote:


Because cheaper labor increases the profit margin.


Thanks, John, but I sorta considered it a rhetorical question....


Sorry, I guess I got you confused with basskisser.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


You are easily confused. Just like when you thought that everyone
would buy your lie about contacting Yamaha, U.S.A. Do you have the
contact's name yet? If not, why not call *her* back, and GET her name.
I really would love to talk to her.


basskisser, you lost that round so long ago.............

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Tuuk February 19th 04 01:06 AM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
Bass, your economics is unusual, and you still didn't answer any questions
that were thrown to you.

Ya, the unions had nothing to do with these job migrations over to a less
expensive labor country. Nothing.
bass, should be Carp.

You keep sticking up for your union, only because you have to, do you have
all your picket signs and skids in your garage all ready?

Ya, maybe the unions leaders should run for elected office? CarpKisser, you
really should give it up.

And how is the government going to control what or how other countries run
their countries? You trying to impose somemore import duties or tariffs to
reduce market driven demands and supplies? Same as an automobile coming in
from Japan, should cost about 5000 and because of import duties, to protect
the unions, to protect the western labor, because they need extra help
because on their own, they would starve, and now the Japan autos cost me,
the end user 4 times what they should, because you union morons get paid
four times what you should. There is your equalization factor.
Come on there Carpkisser, give the head a shake.






"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
" Tuuk" wrote in message

...
Thunder

Give the head a shake there dummy, you have no clue of what your talking
about. What your saying is that the unions are responsible for our 40

hour
work week, child labor laws, safe working conditions, living wages,,

come on
there Thunder, I thought that our government and labor laws were

responsible
for those.
Don't try to defend your unions, you cannot, they have done so much

damage
for us here in the west that it is irreversible.
Thunder, if you and your buddy asskisser don't know what your talking

about,
then shut it.


Shut "it" for me, you idiot! I realize that you are dumber than a
post, but here it is in a nutshell. Before organized labor in the
United States, there was no incentive for a 40 hour work week, nor
child labor laws. The UNIONS are the ones that got our government to
realize these situations, and do something about them. The unions of
today serve the same damn purpose, to lobby our government for new and
better laws to protect us. You are a moron if you think that the
government would have done anything otherwise.




Don White February 19th 04 01:37 AM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
I haven't decided if you really are as dumb as advertised or just another
poor excuse for a troll.
If I remember correctly, the labour component in a vehicle price was about
$1500.00
If that is so and the unions offered to work for $ 5.00 per hour...the
vehicle would only be about $ 1200.00 cheaper.
So which is it....??
are you really dumb or just pretending... so you can agitate decent
hardworking union folk .Tuurky boy?

Tuuk wrote in message
...
snip
And how is the government going to control what or how other countries run
their countries? You trying to impose somemore import duties or tariffs to
reduce market driven demands and supplies? Same as an automobile coming in
from Japan, should cost about 5000 and because of import duties, to

protect
the unions, to protect the western labor, because they need extra help
because on their own, they would starve, and now the Japan autos cost me,
the end user 4 times what they should, because you union morons get paid
four times what you should. There is your equalization factor.
Come on there Carpkisser, give the head a shake.






Christopher Robin February 19th 04 10:27 AM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 

Shut "it" for me, you idiot! I realize that you are dumber than a
post, but here it is in a nutshell. Before organized labor in the
United States, there was no incentive for a 40 hour work week, nor
child labor laws. The UNIONS are the ones that got our government to
realize these situations, and do something about them. The unions of
today serve the same damn purpose, to lobby our government for new and
better laws to protect us. You are a moron if you think that the
government would have done anything otherwise.



If that is so then why does Hairball Hairy Kraus buy a Japanese outboard?

Because he wants to bust American unions!!

basskisser February 19th 04 12:29 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
"Don White" wrote in message ...
I haven't decided if you really are as dumb as advertised or just another
poor excuse for a troll.
If I remember correctly, the labour component in a vehicle price was about
$1500.00
If that is so and the unions offered to work for $ 5.00 per hour...the
vehicle would only be about $ 1200.00 cheaper.
So which is it....??
are you really dumb or just pretending... so you can agitate decent
hardworking union folk .Tuurky boy?


I know the answer to your first sentence, Don, and I think YOU do, too!!!!!!

basskisser February 19th 04 12:29 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
" Tuuk" wrote in message ...
Bass, your economics is unusual, and you still didn't answer any questions
that were thrown to you.


Of course I answered it, you are just too dumb to comprehend it.

basskisser February 19th 04 12:32 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
John H wrote in message
Sorry, I guess I got you confused with basskisser.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


You are easily confused. Just like when you thought that everyone
would buy your lie about contacting Yamaha, U.S.A. Do you have the
contact's name yet? If not, why not call *her* back, and GET her name.
I really would love to talk to her.


basskisser, you lost that round so long ago.............

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


Uh, how so, John? What evidence do you have that Yamaha, U.S.A., and
it's wholly owned subsidiaries are not using organized labor. If you
will call that nice lady back, that you claim to have had a
conversation with, get her name, and I'll talk to her. Then we can
settle this. Agree?

John H February 19th 04 01:04 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 20:06:14 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:

On 18 Feb 2004 11:09:34 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:44:46 -0500, "Gene Kearns"
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:39:19 -0500, John H
wrote:


Because cheaper labor increases the profit margin.


Thanks, John, but I sorta considered it a rhetorical question....

Sorry, I guess I got you confused with basskisser.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

You are easily confused. Just like when you thought that everyone
would buy your lie about contacting Yamaha, U.S.A. Do you have the
contact's name yet? If not, why not call *her* back, and GET her name.
I really would love to talk to her.


basskisser, you lost that round so long ago.............

John H



He did? On the basis of what? Your statements? You righties...always wrong.


Harry, do you really believe your credibility adds to basskisser's?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

basskisser February 19th 04 04:57 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
(Christopher Robin) wrote in message . com...

Shut "it" for me, you idiot! I realize that you are dumber than a
post, but here it is in a nutshell. Before organized labor in the
United States, there was no incentive for a 40 hour work week, nor
child labor laws. The UNIONS are the ones that got our government to
realize these situations, and do something about them. The unions of
today serve the same damn purpose, to lobby our government for new and
better laws to protect us. You are a moron if you think that the
government would have done anything otherwise.



If that is so then why does Hairball Hairy Kraus buy a Japanese outboard?

Because he wants to bust American unions!!


You certainly like showing the group how ignorant you are, huh? Does
mommy know that you are playing with her computer?

Tuuk February 20th 04 03:05 PM

Yamaha unions - basskisser, where are you?
 
Don White

LOL,,, you figure that the labor component of an automobile here in the west
is 1500 dollars?
Are you out of your mind? My father just bought a big suv, I think it was
near 65,000. and you are telling me that only 1500. is labor,

Don, you sure have lost it. And in the same sentence you made the statement
that you are undecided if I am dumb or a troll,,, then you say something
like that....LOL,,,, now who is the idiot?

If the costs of an western auto associates 2% of its total costs to labor,
what would you associate the balance or remaining 98% of the costs?
Material? No,, dont tell me,, management? Taxes? Resources? Fees?
LOL,,,,Donny, you have really embarrassed yourself with this one.

Give the head a shake.








"Don White" wrote in message
...
I haven't decided if you really are as dumb as advertised or just another
poor excuse for a troll.
If I remember correctly, the labour component in a vehicle price was about
$1500.00
If that is so and the unions offered to work for $ 5.00 per hour...the
vehicle would only be about $ 1200.00 cheaper.
So which is it....??
are you really dumb or just pretending... so you can agitate decent
hardworking union folk .Tuurky boy?

Tuuk wrote in message
...
snip
And how is the government going to control what or how other countries

run
their countries? You trying to impose somemore import duties or tariffs

to
reduce market driven demands and supplies? Same as an automobile coming

in
from Japan, should cost about 5000 and because of import duties, to

protect
the unions, to protect the western labor, because they need extra help
because on their own, they would starve, and now the Japan autos cost

me,
the end user 4 times what they should, because you union morons get paid
four times what you should. There is your equalization factor.
Come on there Carpkisser, give the head a shake.









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