On 27 Mar 2005 09:13:53 -0800, wrote:

"War is not healthy for children and other living things."

It's hypocritical to expect any armed force to behave in any manner
that doesn't reflect the entire spectrum of personalities comprising
the force itself.

An unbalanced, homocidal, whack job who finds his or her way into the
armed forces (and the vast majority of servicepeople cannot be so
described) then becomes an unbalanced, homocidal, whack job with a gun,
or a bomb, or a tank, or prison guard's uniform.

The jerks killing off prisoners do not represent the military in
general any more than the super-heroes who earn the Medal of Honor,
etc. Most everybody is going to be somewhere between the two extremes,
just like in "real life".

Given that only the minority are in your 'extreme', would you say it is 'fair
and balanced' to report only *their* activities, as some seem to do?

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"John H" wrote in message
...

Don, would it make a damn bit of difference to you? If they'd made a
public
apology, you'd be down on them 'cause it wasn't soon enough, or heartfelt
enough, or not enough tears, or some damn thing.

Do you really think they shot up a bunch of Canadians on purpose?
--


They disobeyed a direct order and displayed that 'shoot'em up cowboy
attitude that creates disdain for the US military in many parts of the
world. Of course they didn't bomb the Canadians on purpose....I don't think
they really cared who they were blasting. It could have been Brits, or your
own troops. If the US Military cared about it's image, it would discourage
this type of yahoo.

"WaIIy" wrote in message
...

No, this one.....................................

Canada Seizes Spanish Vessel

Texts
1 2 3
Chronicle Herald, March 10, 1995



You really dug back for that one.. The Spanish and Portugese were stealing
fish off the Grand Banks. I guarantee if this happened in US waters, the
outcome would have been worse. (we let them go after their gov'ts promised
to do better)

"WaIIy" wrote in message
...

You really dug back for that one.. The Spanish and Portugese were
stealing
fish off the Grand Banks. I guarantee if this happened in US waters, the
outcome would have been worse.

Don't make statements you have no knowledge of and cannot ever know.

(we let them go after their gov'ts promised
to do better)


You let them go after the "World" exposed you as the pirates you are.


Wally...go back to gouging chocolate. You're babbling.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:05:18 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .

Don, would it make a damn bit of difference to you? If they'd made a
public
apology, you'd be down on them 'cause it wasn't soon enough, or heartfelt
enough, or not enough tears, or some damn thing.

Do you really think they shot up a bunch of Canadians on purpose?
--


They disobeyed a direct order and displayed that 'shoot'em up cowboy
attitude that creates disdain for the US military in many parts of the
world. Of course they didn't bomb the Canadians on purpose....I don't think
they really cared who they were blasting. It could have been Brits, or your
own troops. If the US Military cared about it's image, it would discourage
this type of yahoo.


You're babbling, Don.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

If you thought better of me you don't know *my* rules of engagement.

-W

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 06:53:33 GMT, "Clams Canino"
wrote:

COOL!!!!

-W

"HKrause" wrote in message
...

Army Won't Prosecute 17 Soldiers In Detainee Deaths
Army Says 27 Detainees Have Died While In U.S. Military Custody

WASHINGTON -- Army officials will not prosecute seventeen U.S. soldiers
involved in the deaths of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Military investigators had recommended the soldiers be court-martialed
in three prisoner deaths. Charges ranged from making false statements
to
murder.

Instead, Army officials decided either that force was lawfully used,
that soldiers didn't understand the rules for using force or there
wasn't enough evidence.

Eleven other Army soldiers still face murder or other charges involving
the deaths of detainees in Iraq or Afghanistan. The Army Criminal
Investigation Command released a report Friday detailing the cases of
27
detainees killed in custody in Iraq and Afghanistan between August 2002
and November 2004.

Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved.


- - -

"We've investigated ourselves and we've decided we're not guilty. After
all, you don't count the dead when Jesus is on your side."

We should expect at least a 100% conviction rate of soldiers investigated
by
soldiers. Hell, when civilians investigate civilians it happens, doesn't
it?

As eleven other soldiers are now facing murder charges, the premise of
Harry's
statement is bull****.

I would expect as much from one who despises the military, but Clams...
I'd have
thought better of you.

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Correct...... it was "**** happens". I'm a firm believer in "err to the
side of caution".

Or......... if in real doubt - shoot the ****er.

-W

"John H" wrote in message
...
Hope you're right. I took it as agreement with Krause's 'Hate the
Military'
campaign.

Clams, if Paul's impression was the correct one, please accept this
apology!

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 07:22:31 -0500, Paul Schilter
""paulschilter\"@comcast dot
net" wrote:

John,
Funny how people read things differently. I took Clams reply that he
was in agreement that the soldiers shouldn't be prosecuted. I'm sure
he'll clarify.
Paul


John H wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 06:53:33 GMT, "Clams Canino"
wrote:


COOL!!!!

-W

"HKrause" wrote in message
...

Army Won't Prosecute 17 Soldiers In Detainee Deaths
Army Says 27 Detainees Have Died While In U.S. Military Custody

WASHINGTON -- Army officials will not prosecute seventeen U.S.
soldiers
involved in the deaths of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Military investigators had recommended the soldiers be court-martialed
in three prisoner deaths. Charges ranged from making false statements
to
murder.

Instead, Army officials decided either that force was lawfully used,
that soldiers didn't understand the rules for using force or there
wasn't enough evidence.

Eleven other Army soldiers still face murder or other charges
involving
the deaths of detainees in Iraq or Afghanistan. The Army Criminal
Investigation Command released a report Friday detailing the cases of
27
detainees killed in custody in Iraq and Afghanistan between August
2002
and November 2004.

Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved.


- - -

"We've investigated ourselves and we've decided we're not guilty.
After
all, you don't count the dead when Jesus is on your side."


We should expect at least a 100% conviction rate of soldiers
investigated by
soldiers. Hell, when civilians investigate civilians it happens,
doesn't it?

As eleven other soldiers are now facing murder charges, the premise of
Harry's
statement is bull****.

I would expect as much from one who despises the military, but Clams...
I'd have
thought better of you.


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."