COOL!!!!

-W

"HKrause" wrote in message
...

Army Won't Prosecute 17 Soldiers In Detainee Deaths
Army Says 27 Detainees Have Died While In U.S. Military Custody

WASHINGTON -- Army officials will not prosecute seventeen U.S. soldiers
involved in the deaths of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Military investigators had recommended the soldiers be court-martialed
in three prisoner deaths. Charges ranged from making false statements to
murder.

Instead, Army officials decided either that force was lawfully used,
that soldiers didn't understand the rules for using force or there
wasn't enough evidence.

Eleven other Army soldiers still face murder or other charges involving
the deaths of detainees in Iraq or Afghanistan. The Army Criminal
Investigation Command released a report Friday detailing the cases of 27
detainees killed in custody in Iraq and Afghanistan between August 2002
and November 2004.

Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved.


- - -

"We've investigated ourselves and we've decided we're not guilty. After
all, you don't count the dead when Jesus is on your side."

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 06:53:33 GMT, "Clams Canino" wrote:

COOL!!!!

-W

"HKrause" wrote in message
...

Army Won't Prosecute 17 Soldiers In Detainee Deaths
Army Says 27 Detainees Have Died While In U.S. Military Custody

WASHINGTON -- Army officials will not prosecute seventeen U.S. soldiers
involved in the deaths of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Military investigators had recommended the soldiers be court-martialed
in three prisoner deaths. Charges ranged from making false statements to
murder.

Instead, Army officials decided either that force was lawfully used,
that soldiers didn't understand the rules for using force or there
wasn't enough evidence.

Eleven other Army soldiers still face murder or other charges involving
the deaths of detainees in Iraq or Afghanistan. The Army Criminal
Investigation Command released a report Friday detailing the cases of 27
detainees killed in custody in Iraq and Afghanistan between August 2002
and November 2004.

Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved.


- - -

"We've investigated ourselves and we've decided we're not guilty. After
all, you don't count the dead when Jesus is on your side."

We should expect at least a 100% conviction rate of soldiers investigated by
soldiers. Hell, when civilians investigate civilians it happens, doesn't it?

As eleven other soldiers are now facing murder charges, the premise of Harry's
statement is bull****.

I would expect as much from one who despises the military, but Clams... I'd have
thought better of you.

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John,
Funny how people read things differently. I took Clams reply that he
was in agreement that the soldiers shouldn't be prosecuted. I'm sure
he'll clarify.
Paul


John H wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 06:53:33 GMT, "Clams Canino" wrote:


COOL!!!!

-W

"HKrause" wrote in message
...

Army Won't Prosecute 17 Soldiers In Detainee Deaths
Army Says 27 Detainees Have Died While In U.S. Military Custody

WASHINGTON -- Army officials will not prosecute seventeen U.S. soldiers
involved in the deaths of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Military investigators had recommended the soldiers be court-martialed
in three prisoner deaths. Charges ranged from making false statements to
murder.

Instead, Army officials decided either that force was lawfully used,
that soldiers didn't understand the rules for using force or there
wasn't enough evidence.

Eleven other Army soldiers still face murder or other charges involving
the deaths of detainees in Iraq or Afghanistan. The Army Criminal
Investigation Command released a report Friday detailing the cases of 27
detainees killed in custody in Iraq and Afghanistan between August 2002
and November 2004.

Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved.


- - -

"We've investigated ourselves and we've decided we're not guilty. After
all, you don't count the dead when Jesus is on your side."


We should expect at least a 100% conviction rate of soldiers investigated by
soldiers. Hell, when civilians investigate civilians it happens, doesn't it?

As eleven other soldiers are now facing murder charges, the premise of Harry's
statement is bull****.

I would expect as much from one who despises the military, but Clams... I'd have
thought better of you.

Hope you're right. I took it as agreement with Krause's 'Hate the Military'
campaign.

Clams, if Paul's impression was the correct one, please accept this apology!

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 07:22:31 -0500, Paul Schilter ""paulschilter\"@comcast dot
net" wrote:

John,
Funny how people read things differently. I took Clams reply that he
was in agreement that the soldiers shouldn't be prosecuted. I'm sure
he'll clarify.
Paul


John H wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 06:53:33 GMT, "Clams Canino" wrote:


COOL!!!!

-W

"HKrause" wrote in message
...

Army Won't Prosecute 17 Soldiers In Detainee Deaths
Army Says 27 Detainees Have Died While In U.S. Military Custody

WASHINGTON -- Army officials will not prosecute seventeen U.S. soldiers
involved in the deaths of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Military investigators had recommended the soldiers be court-martialed
in three prisoner deaths. Charges ranged from making false statements to
murder.

Instead, Army officials decided either that force was lawfully used,
that soldiers didn't understand the rules for using force or there
wasn't enough evidence.

Eleven other Army soldiers still face murder or other charges involving
the deaths of detainees in Iraq or Afghanistan. The Army Criminal
Investigation Command released a report Friday detailing the cases of 27
detainees killed in custody in Iraq and Afghanistan between August 2002
and November 2004.

Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved.


- - -

"We've investigated ourselves and we've decided we're not guilty. After
all, you don't count the dead when Jesus is on your side."


We should expect at least a 100% conviction rate of soldiers investigated by
soldiers. Hell, when civilians investigate civilians it happens, doesn't it?

As eleven other soldiers are now facing murder charges, the premise of Harry's
statement is bull****.

I would expect as much from one who despises the military, but Clams... I'd have
thought better of you.


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Correct...... it was "**** happens". I'm a firm believer in "err to the
side of caution".

Or......... if in real doubt - shoot the ****er.

-W

"John H" wrote in message
...
Hope you're right. I took it as agreement with Krause's 'Hate the
Military'
campaign.

Clams, if Paul's impression was the correct one, please accept this
apology!

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 07:22:31 -0500, Paul Schilter
""paulschilter\"@comcast dot
net" wrote:

John,
Funny how people read things differently. I took Clams reply that he
was in agreement that the soldiers shouldn't be prosecuted. I'm sure
he'll clarify.
Paul


John H wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 06:53:33 GMT, "Clams Canino"
wrote:


COOL!!!!

-W

"HKrause" wrote in message
...

Army Won't Prosecute 17 Soldiers In Detainee Deaths
Army Says 27 Detainees Have Died While In U.S. Military Custody

WASHINGTON -- Army officials will not prosecute seventeen U.S.
soldiers
involved in the deaths of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Military investigators had recommended the soldiers be court-martialed
in three prisoner deaths. Charges ranged from making false statements
to
murder.

Instead, Army officials decided either that force was lawfully used,
that soldiers didn't understand the rules for using force or there
wasn't enough evidence.

Eleven other Army soldiers still face murder or other charges
involving
the deaths of detainees in Iraq or Afghanistan. The Army Criminal
Investigation Command released a report Friday detailing the cases of
27
detainees killed in custody in Iraq and Afghanistan between August
2002
and November 2004.

Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved.


- - -

"We've investigated ourselves and we've decided we're not guilty.
After
all, you don't count the dead when Jesus is on your side."


We should expect at least a 100% conviction rate of soldiers
investigated by
soldiers. Hell, when civilians investigate civilians it happens,
doesn't it?

As eleven other soldiers are now facing murder charges, the premise of
Harry's
statement is bull****.

I would expect as much from one who despises the military, but Clams...
I'd have
thought better of you.


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

If you thought better of me you don't know *my* rules of engagement.

-W

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 06:53:33 GMT, "Clams Canino"
wrote:

COOL!!!!

-W

"HKrause" wrote in message
...

Army Won't Prosecute 17 Soldiers In Detainee Deaths
Army Says 27 Detainees Have Died While In U.S. Military Custody

WASHINGTON -- Army officials will not prosecute seventeen U.S. soldiers
involved in the deaths of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Military investigators had recommended the soldiers be court-martialed
in three prisoner deaths. Charges ranged from making false statements
to
murder.

Instead, Army officials decided either that force was lawfully used,
that soldiers didn't understand the rules for using force or there
wasn't enough evidence.

Eleven other Army soldiers still face murder or other charges involving
the deaths of detainees in Iraq or Afghanistan. The Army Criminal
Investigation Command released a report Friday detailing the cases of
27
detainees killed in custody in Iraq and Afghanistan between August 2002
and November 2004.

Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved.


- - -

"We've investigated ourselves and we've decided we're not guilty. After
all, you don't count the dead when Jesus is on your side."

We should expect at least a 100% conviction rate of soldiers investigated
by
soldiers. Hell, when civilians investigate civilians it happens, doesn't
it?

As eleven other soldiers are now facing murder charges, the premise of
Harry's
statement is bull****.

I would expect as much from one who despises the military, but Clams...
I'd have
thought better of you.

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"HKrause" wrote in message
...

Army Won't Prosecute 17 Soldiers In Detainee Deaths
Army Says 27 Detainees Have Died While In U.S. Military Custody
snip...
"We've investigated ourselves and we've decided we're not guilty. After
all, you don't count the dead when Jesus is on your side."


The US militart has declared itself 'above the law'. The pilot who
disobeyed orders and attacked a Canadian unit, killing four with his bombs,
lost a months pay. He has never apologized.

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"HKrause" wrote in message
...

Army Won't Prosecute 17 Soldiers In Detainee Deaths
Army Says 27 Detainees Have Died While In U.S. Military Custody
snip...
"We've investigated ourselves and we've decided we're not guilty. After
all, you don't count the dead when Jesus is on your side."


The US militart has declared itself 'above the law'. The pilot who
disobeyed orders and attacked a Canadian unit, killing four with his
bombs,
lost a months pay. He has never apologized.



That came under the heading of "**** happens in war", Don. Apologies are not
required.

(I assume you know a cynical remark when you see it).

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...



That came under the heading of "**** happens in war", Don. Apologies are
not
required.

(I assume you know a cynical remark when you see it).

Yes....trouble is, there's a sizeable group of characters in here who really
do believe that psychology.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:57:00 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...



That came under the heading of "**** happens in war", Don. Apologies are
not
required.

(I assume you know a cynical remark when you see it).

Yes....trouble is, there's a sizeable group of characters in here who really
do believe that psychology.



I doubt there is anyone here who is happy about the Canadians getting killed. It
was a damn shame. I'm sorry it happened, for both the Canadians and the pilots.

Well, I imagine there is at least one or two here who *were* happy with the
news. It gave them more ammunition in their 'hate the military' campaign.

How do you know they never apologized? Do you mean to say they never 'publicly'
apologized?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."