"Marley" wrote in message
...

Believe it or not, MANY surveyors frequently have no clue that this is
the case.


At a seminarduring our local boat show, the speaker, who is president of an
international surveyors association, said the moisture meter is probably the
last thing he uses during a survey.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:10:48 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Marley" wrote in message
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Believe it or not, MANY surveyors frequently have no clue that this is
the case.

At a seminarduring our local boat show, the speaker, who is president of an
international surveyors association, said the moisture meter is probably the
last thing he uses during a survey.

Interesting. Did he say why?

Just out of plain old curiosity, what group was he with?

Later,

Tom

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
Interesting. Did he say why?

Just out of plain old curiosity, what group was he with?

Later,

Tom


I started to take notes...but the coated cashew nuts in my freebee bag kept
calling out to me.
I remember him talking about good judgement, experience, tapping on hull
etc. and length of report (30-45 pages long)
As for which association...I can't remember which...just know he said it was
the best one.
I went hoping he'd be telling us all the secrets of the trade...tips on how
to do our own survey. It was more like an infomercial
and those darn coated cashews kept interrupting my attention.......

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:22:04 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
Interesting. Did he say why?

Just out of plain old curiosity, what group was he with?

I started to take notes...but the coated cashew nuts in my freebee bag kept
calling out to me.
I remember him talking about good judgement, experience, tapping on hull
etc. and length of report (30-45 pages long)
As for which association...I can't remember which...just know he said it was
the best one.
I went hoping he'd be telling us all the secrets of the trade...tips on how
to do our own survey. It was more like an infomercial
and those darn coated cashews kept interrupting my attention.......

mmmmmmmmcoatedcashewnutsmmmmmmmmmmm

Think about it... unless the hull has been out of the water for some time,
it's probably wet when pulled during the survey! I agree, these things are
very inexact and more art than science. I did have significant blistering on
my hull... did the whole peel and dry with hotvac thing. We took LOTS of
meter readings with different meters in the same place, even oven dried core
samples, etc. Meter readings should only be used to measure relative
differences, as none that I could tell gave an absolute measurement. Also
any metal in the hull or nearby makes the readings go high.

--


Keith
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The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth.
"Don White" wrote in message
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"Marley" wrote in message
...

Believe it or not, MANY surveyors frequently have no clue that this is
the case.


At a seminarduring our local boat show, the speaker, who is president of
an
international surveyors association, said the moisture meter is probably
the
last thing he uses during a survey.

Keith wrote:
Meter readings should only be used to measure relative
differences,
Absolutely, what's the controversy in this thread? (not that you're
creating it) Meters do what they purport to do, and as long as one
recognizes that it is a qualitative, relative measurement i.e. comparing
moisture presence in a portion of the hull high above the water line to
sections below -with the anti-fouling removed first of course- the
values given do provide useful information IF it's interpreted correctly.

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:03:14 -0500, prodigal1 wrote:

Keith wrote:
Meter readings should only be used to measure relative
differences,
Absolutely, what's the controversy in this thread? (not that you're
creating it) Meters do what they purport to do, and as long as one
recognizes that it is a qualitative, relative measurement i.e. comparing
moisture presence in a portion of the hull high above the water line to
sections below -with the anti-fouling removed first of course- the
values given do provide useful information IF it's interpreted correctly.

There isn't any controversy - it was initiated by somebody taking
offense at some definitions - got a little huffy about it.

Of course, once asked some questions just for clarification, that
person disappeared, but hey...

No controversy all.

Later,

Tom

One has to remember that a meter only measures *surface* moisture

In article , prodigal1
wrote:

Keith wrote:
Meter readings should only be used to measure relative
differences,
Absolutely, what's the controversy in this thread? (not that you're
creating it) Meters do what they purport to do, and as long as one
recognizes that it is a qualitative, relative measurement i.e. comparing
moisture presence in a portion of the hull high above the water line to
sections below -with the anti-fouling removed first of course- the
values given do provide useful information IF it's interpreted correctly.