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Dutch Iraq war crimes case opens

ROTTERDAM, Netherlands -- A Dutch court has opened hearings in the case
of a businessman accused of helping former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein
commit genocide by selling materials for chemical weapons to Baghdad.

Frans Van Anraat, 62, appeared in a Rotterdam court Friday to face
charges of complicity in war crimes and genocide.

"It was known since the mid-1980s that the Iraqi government was using
poison gas in the war against Iran and against its own population,"
Reuters quoted prosecutor Fred Teeven as saying as he outlined the
charges at a pre-trial hearing.

Van Anraat faces up to life in prison if convicted.

The Dutch chemicals dealer is accused of supplying thousands of tons of
raw materials for chemical weapons used in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war.

Baghdad also used chemical weapons against Iraqi Kurds, including a 1988
attack on the town of Halabja in which an estimated 5,000 people were
killed.

The United Nations has described Van Anraat as "one of the most
important middlemen in Iraq's acquisition of chemical material," Reuters
reported prosecutors as saying.

Van Anraat has said in the past that he sold chemicals to Saddam's
regime but that his actions were neither wrong nor illegal.

"The images of the gas attack on the Kurdish city Halabja were a shock.
But I did not give the order to do that. How many products, such as
bullets do we make in the Netherlands?" Van Anraat told Dutch magazine
Revu in 2003, according to Reuters.

He made similar statements in a 2003 interview with Dutch television
program Netwerk, The Associated Press said.

"This was not my main business, this was something I did in passing," he
was quoted as saying.

"Somewhere once back then, I got the request whether I could deliver
certain products to them, which they needed," he said. "And because I
had a very good relationship with the (Iraqi) Oil Ministry, and that's
where the request came from, I tried to see if I could do it. And that
was successful and we did deliver some materials."

Among the chemicals he is alleged to have shipped is thiodyglycol, which
can be used in the production of mustard gas. It is alleged to be the
lethal chemical that was used in the Halabja attack.

Prosecutors said Anraat "knew the destination and ultimate purpose of
the materials he was shipping."

Van Anraat is alleged to have shipped the chemicals on a route via the
United States and Europe to Iraq. Authorities in the United States,
Belgium, Germany, Italy and Switzerland contributed to the investigation.

Dutch officials arrested van Anraat at his Amsterdam home in December.

"The man is suspected of delivering thousands of tons of raw materials
for chemical weapons to the former regime in Baghdad between 1984 and
1988," a December prosecution statement said.

Prosecutors say evidence against Van Anraat includes "official Iraqi
documents" -- material which may also be used against Saddam when he
goes before an Iraqi tribunal on war crimes charges, AP reported.

Van Anraat had been arrested in 1989 in Milan, Italy at the request of
the U.S. government, prosecutors said. He fled to Iraq after being
released and remained there until 2003.

After the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, van Anraat returned
to the Netherlands via Syria.

The case is seen as a landmark because it would be the first time a
businessman has been prosecuted for war crimes by a national court, AP
reported. His trial starts in November.
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Jim, wrote:
Dutch Iraq war crimes case opens

ROTTERDAM, Netherlands -- A Dutch court has opened hearings in the

case
of a businessman accused of helping former Iraqi leader Saddam

Hussein
commit genocide by selling materials for chemical weapons to

Baghdad.

Frans Van Anraat, 62, appeared in a Rotterdam court Friday to face
charges of complicity in war crimes and genocide.

"It was known since the mid-1980s that the Iraqi government was

using
poison gas in the war against Iran and against its own population,"


Reuters quoted prosecutor Fred Teeven as saying as he outlined the
charges at a pre-trial hearing.

Van Anraat faces up to life in prison if convicted.

The Dutch chemicals dealer is accused of supplying thousands of

tons of
raw materials for chemical weapons used in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq

war.

Baghdad also used chemical weapons against Iraqi Kurds, including a

1988
attack on the town of Halabja in which an estimated 5,000 people

were
killed.

The United Nations has described Van Anraat as "one of the most
important middlemen in Iraq's acquisition of chemical material,"

Reuters
reported prosecutors as saying.

Van Anraat has said in the past that he sold chemicals to Saddam's
regime but that his actions were neither wrong nor illegal.

"The images of the gas attack on the Kurdish city Halabja were a

shock.
But I did not give the order to do that. How many products, such as


bullets do we make in the Netherlands?" Van Anraat told Dutch

magazine
Revu in 2003, according to Reuters.

He made similar statements in a 2003 interview with Dutch

television
program Netwerk, The Associated Press said.

"This was not my main business, this was something I did in

passing," he
was quoted as saying.

"Somewhere once back then, I got the request whether I could

deliver
certain products to them, which they needed," he said. "And because

I
had a very good relationship with the (Iraqi) Oil Ministry, and

that's
where the request came from, I tried to see if I could do it. And

that
was successful and we did deliver some materials."

Among the chemicals he is alleged to have shipped is thiodyglycol,

which
can be used in the production of mustard gas. It is alleged to be

the
lethal chemical that was used in the Halabja attack.

Prosecutors said Anraat "knew the destination and ultimate purpose

of
the materials he was shipping."

Van Anraat is alleged to have shipped the chemicals on a route via

the
United States and Europe to Iraq. Authorities in the United States,


Belgium, Germany, Italy and Switzerland contributed to the

investigation.

Dutch officials arrested van Anraat at his Amsterdam home in

December.

"The man is suspected of delivering thousands of tons of raw

materials
for chemical weapons to the former regime in Baghdad between 1984

and
1988," a December prosecution statement said.

Prosecutors say evidence against Van Anraat includes "official

Iraqi
documents" -- material which may also be used against Saddam when

he
goes before an Iraqi tribunal on war crimes charges, AP reported.

Van Anraat had been arrested in 1989 in Milan, Italy at the request

of
the U.S. government, prosecutors said. He fled to Iraq after being
released and remained there until 2003.

After the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, van Anraat

returned
to the Netherlands via Syria.

The case is seen as a landmark because it would be the first time a


businessman has been prosecuted for war crimes by a national court,

AP
reported. His trial starts in November.



That's good. When does Cheney go on trial?


Whenever that is, it won't be soon enough.....

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Jim, wrote:
Dutch Iraq war crimes case opens

ROTTERDAM, Netherlands -- A Dutch court has opened hearings in the

case
of a businessman accused of helping former Iraqi leader Saddam

Hussein
commit genocide by selling materials for chemical weapons to

Baghdad.

Frans Van Anraat, 62, appeared in a Rotterdam court Friday to face
charges of complicity in war crimes and genocide.

"It was known since the mid-1980s that the Iraqi government was

using
poison gas in the war against Iran and against its own population,"


Reuters quoted prosecutor Fred Teeven as saying as he outlined the
charges at a pre-trial hearing.

Van Anraat faces up to life in prison if convicted.

The Dutch chemicals dealer is accused of supplying thousands of

tons of
raw materials for chemical weapons used in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq

war.

Baghdad also used chemical weapons against Iraqi Kurds, including a

1988
attack on the town of Halabja in which an estimated 5,000 people

were
killed.

The United Nations has described Van Anraat as "one of the most
important middlemen in Iraq's acquisition of chemical material,"

Reuters
reported prosecutors as saying.

Van Anraat has said in the past that he sold chemicals to Saddam's
regime but that his actions were neither wrong nor illegal.

"The images of the gas attack on the Kurdish city Halabja were a

shock.
But I did not give the order to do that. How many products, such as


bullets do we make in the Netherlands?" Van Anraat told Dutch

magazine
Revu in 2003, according to Reuters.

He made similar statements in a 2003 interview with Dutch

television
program Netwerk, The Associated Press said.

"This was not my main business, this was something I did in

passing," he
was quoted as saying.

"Somewhere once back then, I got the request whether I could

deliver
certain products to them, which they needed," he said. "And because

I
had a very good relationship with the (Iraqi) Oil Ministry, and

that's
where the request came from, I tried to see if I could do it. And

that
was successful and we did deliver some materials."

Among the chemicals he is alleged to have shipped is thiodyglycol,

which
can be used in the production of mustard gas. It is alleged to be

the
lethal chemical that was used in the Halabja attack.

Prosecutors said Anraat "knew the destination and ultimate purpose

of
the materials he was shipping."

Van Anraat is alleged to have shipped the chemicals on a route via

the
United States and Europe to Iraq. Authorities in the United States,


Belgium, Germany, Italy and Switzerland contributed to the

investigation.

Dutch officials arrested van Anraat at his Amsterdam home in

December.

"The man is suspected of delivering thousands of tons of raw

materials
for chemical weapons to the former regime in Baghdad between 1984

and
1988," a December prosecution statement said.

Prosecutors say evidence against Van Anraat includes "official

Iraqi
documents" -- material which may also be used against Saddam when

he
goes before an Iraqi tribunal on war crimes charges, AP reported.

Van Anraat had been arrested in 1989 in Milan, Italy at the request

of
the U.S. government, prosecutors said. He fled to Iraq after being
released and remained there until 2003.

After the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, van Anraat

returned
to the Netherlands via Syria.

The case is seen as a landmark because it would be the first time a


businessman has been prosecuted for war crimes by a national court,

AP
reported. His trial starts in November.



That's good. When does Cheney go on trial?


Whenever that is, it won't be soon enough.....


The Democrat's mantra:

Cheney bad. Rice bad. Rumsfeld bad. Gonzales bad. Friedman bad. Mineta
bad. Bolten bad. Chertoff bad. Bodman bad. Chao bad. Leavitt bad.
Spelling bad. Norton bad. Johaans bad. Jackson bad. Snow bad. Nicholson
bad. Gutierrez bad. Bush judicial nominations bad. Bush evil.

Hey libs, did I get everyone?


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HarryKrause wrote:
Jim, wrote:
Dutch Iraq war crimes case opens

ROTTERDAM, Netherlands -- A Dutch court has opened hearings in the

case
of a businessman accused of helping former Iraqi leader Saddam

Hussein
commit genocide by selling materials for chemical weapons to

Baghdad.

Frans Van Anraat, 62, appeared in a Rotterdam court Friday to face
charges of complicity in war crimes and genocide.

"It was known since the mid-1980s that the Iraqi government was

using
poison gas in the war against Iran and against its own population,"


Reuters quoted prosecutor Fred Teeven as saying as he outlined the
charges at a pre-trial hearing.

Van Anraat faces up to life in prison if convicted.

The Dutch chemicals dealer is accused of supplying thousands of

tons of
raw materials for chemical weapons used in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq

war.

Baghdad also used chemical weapons against Iraqi Kurds, including a

1988
attack on the town of Halabja in which an estimated 5,000 people

were
killed.

The United Nations has described Van Anraat as "one of the most
important middlemen in Iraq's acquisition of chemical material,"

Reuters
reported prosecutors as saying.

Van Anraat has said in the past that he sold chemicals to Saddam's
regime but that his actions were neither wrong nor illegal.

"The images of the gas attack on the Kurdish city Halabja were a

shock.
But I did not give the order to do that. How many products, such as


bullets do we make in the Netherlands?" Van Anraat told Dutch

magazine
Revu in 2003, according to Reuters.

He made similar statements in a 2003 interview with Dutch

television
program Netwerk, The Associated Press said.

"This was not my main business, this was something I did in

passing," he
was quoted as saying.

"Somewhere once back then, I got the request whether I could

deliver
certain products to them, which they needed," he said. "And because

I
had a very good relationship with the (Iraqi) Oil Ministry, and

that's
where the request came from, I tried to see if I could do it. And

that
was successful and we did deliver some materials."

Among the chemicals he is alleged to have shipped is thiodyglycol,

which
can be used in the production of mustard gas. It is alleged to be

the
lethal chemical that was used in the Halabja attack.

Prosecutors said Anraat "knew the destination and ultimate purpose

of
the materials he was shipping."

Van Anraat is alleged to have shipped the chemicals on a route via

the
United States and Europe to Iraq. Authorities in the United States,


Belgium, Germany, Italy and Switzerland contributed to the

investigation.

Dutch officials arrested van Anraat at his Amsterdam home in

December.

"The man is suspected of delivering thousands of tons of raw

materials
for chemical weapons to the former regime in Baghdad between 1984

and
1988," a December prosecution statement said.

Prosecutors say evidence against Van Anraat includes "official

Iraqi
documents" -- material which may also be used against Saddam when

he
goes before an Iraqi tribunal on war crimes charges, AP reported.

Van Anraat had been arrested in 1989 in Milan, Italy at the request

of
the U.S. government, prosecutors said. He fled to Iraq after being
released and remained there until 2003.

After the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, van Anraat

returned
to the Netherlands via Syria.

The case is seen as a landmark because it would be the first time a


businessman has been prosecuted for war crimes by a national court,

AP
reported. His trial starts in November.


That's good. When does Cheney go on trial?


Whenever that is, it won't be soon enough.....


The Democrat's mantra:

Cheney bad. Rice bad. Rumsfeld bad. Gonzales bad. Friedman bad.
Mineta bad. Bolten bad. Chertoff bad. Bodman bad. Chao bad. Leavitt
bad. Spelling bad. Norton bad. Johaans bad. Jackson bad. Snow bad.
Nicholson bad. Gutierrez bad. Bush judicial nominations bad. Bush
evil.

Hey libs, did I get everyone?


I thought Mineta was one of them. Isn't he a hold over from Clinton?


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HarryKrause wrote:
Jim, wrote:
Dutch Iraq war crimes case opens

ROTTERDAM, Netherlands -- A Dutch court has opened hearings in the
case
of a businessman accused of helping former Iraqi leader Saddam
Hussein
commit genocide by selling materials for chemical weapons to
Baghdad.

Frans Van Anraat, 62, appeared in a Rotterdam court Friday to face
charges of complicity in war crimes and genocide.

"It was known since the mid-1980s that the Iraqi government was
using
poison gas in the war against Iran and against its own population,"

Reuters quoted prosecutor Fred Teeven as saying as he outlined the
charges at a pre-trial hearing.

Van Anraat faces up to life in prison if convicted.

The Dutch chemicals dealer is accused of supplying thousands of
tons of
raw materials for chemical weapons used in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq
war.

Baghdad also used chemical weapons against Iraqi Kurds, including a
1988
attack on the town of Halabja in which an estimated 5,000 people
were
killed.

The United Nations has described Van Anraat as "one of the most
important middlemen in Iraq's acquisition of chemical material,"
Reuters
reported prosecutors as saying.

Van Anraat has said in the past that he sold chemicals to Saddam's
regime but that his actions were neither wrong nor illegal.

"The images of the gas attack on the Kurdish city Halabja were a
shock.
But I did not give the order to do that. How many products, such as

bullets do we make in the Netherlands?" Van Anraat told Dutch
magazine
Revu in 2003, according to Reuters.

He made similar statements in a 2003 interview with Dutch
television
program Netwerk, The Associated Press said.

"This was not my main business, this was something I did in
passing," he
was quoted as saying.

"Somewhere once back then, I got the request whether I could
deliver
certain products to them, which they needed," he said. "And because
I
had a very good relationship with the (Iraqi) Oil Ministry, and
that's
where the request came from, I tried to see if I could do it. And
that
was successful and we did deliver some materials."

Among the chemicals he is alleged to have shipped is thiodyglycol,
which
can be used in the production of mustard gas. It is alleged to be
the
lethal chemical that was used in the Halabja attack.

Prosecutors said Anraat "knew the destination and ultimate purpose
of
the materials he was shipping."

Van Anraat is alleged to have shipped the chemicals on a route via
the
United States and Europe to Iraq. Authorities in the United States,

Belgium, Germany, Italy and Switzerland contributed to the
investigation.

Dutch officials arrested van Anraat at his Amsterdam home in
December.

"The man is suspected of delivering thousands of tons of raw
materials
for chemical weapons to the former regime in Baghdad between 1984
and
1988," a December prosecution statement said.

Prosecutors say evidence against Van Anraat includes "official
Iraqi
documents" -- material which may also be used against Saddam when
he
goes before an Iraqi tribunal on war crimes charges, AP reported.

Van Anraat had been arrested in 1989 in Milan, Italy at the request
of
the U.S. government, prosecutors said. He fled to Iraq after being
released and remained there until 2003.

After the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, van Anraat
returned
to the Netherlands via Syria.

The case is seen as a landmark because it would be the first time a

businessman has been prosecuted for war crimes by a national court,
AP
reported. His trial starts in November.


That's good. When does Cheney go on trial?

Whenever that is, it won't be soon enough.....


The Democrat's mantra:

Cheney bad. Rice bad. Rumsfeld bad. Gonzales bad. Friedman bad.
Mineta bad. Bolten bad. Chertoff bad. Bodman bad. Chao bad. Leavitt
bad. Spelling bad. Norton bad. Johaans bad. Jackson bad. Snow bad.
Nicholson bad. Gutierrez bad. Bush judicial nominations bad. Bush
evil.

Hey libs, did I get everyone?


I thought Mineta was one of them. Isn't he a hold over from Clinton?



Well how could that be? Imagine evil GWB appointing someone from Clintons
cabinet.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/mineta-bio.html




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HarryKrause wrote:
Jim, wrote:
Dutch Iraq war crimes case opens

ROTTERDAM, Netherlands -- A Dutch court has opened hearings in the
case
of a businessman accused of helping former Iraqi leader Saddam
Hussein
commit genocide by selling materials for chemical weapons to
Baghdad.

Frans Van Anraat, 62, appeared in a Rotterdam court Friday to face
charges of complicity in war crimes and genocide.

"It was known since the mid-1980s that the Iraqi government was
using
poison gas in the war against Iran and against its own population,"

Reuters quoted prosecutor Fred Teeven as saying as he outlined the
charges at a pre-trial hearing.

Van Anraat faces up to life in prison if convicted.

The Dutch chemicals dealer is accused of supplying thousands of
tons of
raw materials for chemical weapons used in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq
war.

Baghdad also used chemical weapons against Iraqi Kurds, including a
1988
attack on the town of Halabja in which an estimated 5,000 people
were
killed.

The United Nations has described Van Anraat as "one of the most
important middlemen in Iraq's acquisition of chemical material,"
Reuters
reported prosecutors as saying.

Van Anraat has said in the past that he sold chemicals to Saddam's
regime but that his actions were neither wrong nor illegal.

"The images of the gas attack on the Kurdish city Halabja were a
shock.
But I did not give the order to do that. How many products, such as

bullets do we make in the Netherlands?" Van Anraat told Dutch
magazine
Revu in 2003, according to Reuters.

He made similar statements in a 2003 interview with Dutch
television
program Netwerk, The Associated Press said.

"This was not my main business, this was something I did in
passing," he
was quoted as saying.

"Somewhere once back then, I got the request whether I could
deliver
certain products to them, which they needed," he said. "And because
I
had a very good relationship with the (Iraqi) Oil Ministry, and
that's
where the request came from, I tried to see if I could do it. And
that
was successful and we did deliver some materials."

Among the chemicals he is alleged to have shipped is thiodyglycol,
which
can be used in the production of mustard gas. It is alleged to be
the
lethal chemical that was used in the Halabja attack.

Prosecutors said Anraat "knew the destination and ultimate purpose
of
the materials he was shipping."

Van Anraat is alleged to have shipped the chemicals on a route via
the
United States and Europe to Iraq. Authorities in the United States,

Belgium, Germany, Italy and Switzerland contributed to the
investigation.

Dutch officials arrested van Anraat at his Amsterdam home in
December.

"The man is suspected of delivering thousands of tons of raw
materials
for chemical weapons to the former regime in Baghdad between 1984
and
1988," a December prosecution statement said.

Prosecutors say evidence against Van Anraat includes "official
Iraqi
documents" -- material which may also be used against Saddam when
he
goes before an Iraqi tribunal on war crimes charges, AP reported.

Van Anraat had been arrested in 1989 in Milan, Italy at the request
of
the U.S. government, prosecutors said. He fled to Iraq after being
released and remained there until 2003.

After the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, van Anraat
returned
to the Netherlands via Syria.

The case is seen as a landmark because it would be the first time a

businessman has been prosecuted for war crimes by a national court,
AP
reported. His trial starts in November.


That's good. When does Cheney go on trial?

Whenever that is, it won't be soon enough.....


The Democrat's mantra:

Cheney bad. Rice bad. Rumsfeld bad. Gonzales bad. Friedman bad.
Mineta bad. Bolten bad. Chertoff bad. Bodman bad. Chao bad. Leavitt
bad. Spelling bad. Norton bad. Johaans bad. Jackson bad. Snow bad.
Nicholson bad. Gutierrez bad. Bush judicial nominations bad. Bush
evil.

Hey libs, did I get everyone?


I thought Mineta was one of them. Isn't he a hold over from Clinton?



Yes. But he is now on GWB's cabinet therefore he is bad according to the
libs.


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HarryKrause wrote:

Jim, wrote:

Dutch Iraq war crimes case opens

ROTTERDAM, Netherlands -- A Dutch court has opened hearings in the


case

of a businessman accused of helping former Iraqi leader Saddam


Hussein

commit genocide by selling materials for chemical weapons to


Baghdad.

Frans Van Anraat, 62, appeared in a Rotterdam court Friday to face
charges of complicity in war crimes and genocide.

"It was known since the mid-1980s that the Iraqi government was


using

poison gas in the war against Iran and against its own population,"


Reuters quoted prosecutor Fred Teeven as saying as he outlined the
charges at a pre-trial hearing.

Van Anraat faces up to life in prison if convicted.

The Dutch chemicals dealer is accused of supplying thousands of


tons of

raw materials for chemical weapons used in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq


war.

Baghdad also used chemical weapons against Iraqi Kurds, including a


1988

attack on the town of Halabja in which an estimated 5,000 people


were

killed.

The United Nations has described Van Anraat as "one of the most
important middlemen in Iraq's acquisition of chemical material,"


Reuters

reported prosecutors as saying.

Van Anraat has said in the past that he sold chemicals to Saddam's
regime but that his actions were neither wrong nor illegal.

"The images of the gas attack on the Kurdish city Halabja were a


shock.

But I did not give the order to do that. How many products, such as


bullets do we make in the Netherlands?" Van Anraat told Dutch


magazine

Revu in 2003, according to Reuters.

He made similar statements in a 2003 interview with Dutch


television

program Netwerk, The Associated Press said.

"This was not my main business, this was something I did in


passing," he

was quoted as saying.

"Somewhere once back then, I got the request whether I could


deliver

certain products to them, which they needed," he said. "And because


I

had a very good relationship with the (Iraqi) Oil Ministry, and


that's

where the request came from, I tried to see if I could do it. And


that

was successful and we did deliver some materials."

Among the chemicals he is alleged to have shipped is thiodyglycol,


which

can be used in the production of mustard gas. It is alleged to be


the

lethal chemical that was used in the Halabja attack.

Prosecutors said Anraat "knew the destination and ultimate purpose


of

the materials he was shipping."

Van Anraat is alleged to have shipped the chemicals on a route via


the

United States and Europe to Iraq. Authorities in the United States,


Belgium, Germany, Italy and Switzerland contributed to the


investigation.

Dutch officials arrested van Anraat at his Amsterdam home in


December.

"The man is suspected of delivering thousands of tons of raw


materials

for chemical weapons to the former regime in Baghdad between 1984


and

1988," a December prosecution statement said.

Prosecutors say evidence against Van Anraat includes "official


Iraqi

documents" -- material which may also be used against Saddam when


he

goes before an Iraqi tribunal on war crimes charges, AP reported.

Van Anraat had been arrested in 1989 in Milan, Italy at the request


of

the U.S. government, prosecutors said. He fled to Iraq after being
released and remained there until 2003.

After the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, van Anraat


returned

to the Netherlands via Syria.

The case is seen as a landmark because it would be the first time a


businessman has been prosecuted for war crimes by a national court,


AP

reported. His trial starts in November.


That's good. When does Cheney go on trial?


Whenever that is, it won't be soon enough.....



The Democrat's mantra:

Cheney bad. Rice bad. Rumsfeld bad. Gonzales bad. Friedman bad. Mineta
bad. Bolten bad. Chertoff bad. Bodman bad. Chao bad. Leavitt bad.
Spelling bad. Norton bad. Johaans bad. Jackson bad. Snow bad. Nicholson
bad. Gutierrez bad. Bush judicial nominations bad. Bush evil.

Hey libs, did I get everyone?


Forgot DeLay and congress, but I agree so far.
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Jim, wrote:
Dutch Iraq war crimes case opens

ROTTERDAM, Netherlands -- A Dutch court has opened hearings in

the
case
of a businessman accused of helping former Iraqi leader Saddam

Hussein
commit genocide by selling materials for chemical weapons to

Baghdad.

Frans Van Anraat, 62, appeared in a Rotterdam court Friday to

face
charges of complicity in war crimes and genocide.

"It was known since the mid-1980s that the Iraqi government was

using
poison gas in the war against Iran and against its own

population,"

Reuters quoted prosecutor Fred Teeven as saying as he outlined

the
charges at a pre-trial hearing.

Van Anraat faces up to life in prison if convicted.

The Dutch chemicals dealer is accused of supplying thousands of

tons of
raw materials for chemical weapons used in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq

war.

Baghdad also used chemical weapons against Iraqi Kurds,

including a
1988
attack on the town of Halabja in which an estimated 5,000 people

were
killed.

The United Nations has described Van Anraat as "one of the most
important middlemen in Iraq's acquisition of chemical material,"

Reuters
reported prosecutors as saying.

Van Anraat has said in the past that he sold chemicals to

Saddam's
regime but that his actions were neither wrong nor illegal.

"The images of the gas attack on the Kurdish city Halabja were a

shock.
But I did not give the order to do that. How many products, such

as

bullets do we make in the Netherlands?" Van Anraat told Dutch

magazine
Revu in 2003, according to Reuters.

He made similar statements in a 2003 interview with Dutch

television
program Netwerk, The Associated Press said.

"This was not my main business, this was something I did in

passing," he
was quoted as saying.

"Somewhere once back then, I got the request whether I could

deliver
certain products to them, which they needed," he said. "And

because
I
had a very good relationship with the (Iraqi) Oil Ministry, and

that's
where the request came from, I tried to see if I could do it.

And
that
was successful and we did deliver some materials."

Among the chemicals he is alleged to have shipped is

thiodyglycol,
which
can be used in the production of mustard gas. It is alleged to

be
the
lethal chemical that was used in the Halabja attack.

Prosecutors said Anraat "knew the destination and ultimate

purpose
of
the materials he was shipping."

Van Anraat is alleged to have shipped the chemicals on a route

via
the
United States and Europe to Iraq. Authorities in the United

States,

Belgium, Germany, Italy and Switzerland contributed to the

investigation.

Dutch officials arrested van Anraat at his Amsterdam home in

December.

"The man is suspected of delivering thousands of tons of raw

materials
for chemical weapons to the former regime in Baghdad between

1984
and
1988," a December prosecution statement said.

Prosecutors say evidence against Van Anraat includes "official

Iraqi
documents" -- material which may also be used against Saddam

when
he
goes before an Iraqi tribunal on war crimes charges, AP

reported.

Van Anraat had been arrested in 1989 in Milan, Italy at the

request
of
the U.S. government, prosecutors said. He fled to Iraq after

being
released and remained there until 2003.

After the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, van Anraat

returned
to the Netherlands via Syria.

The case is seen as a landmark because it would be the first

time a

businessman has been prosecuted for war crimes by a national

court,
AP
reported. His trial starts in November.


That's good. When does Cheney go on trial?


Whenever that is, it won't be soon enough.....


The Democrat's mantra:

Cheney bad. Rice bad. Rumsfeld bad. Gonzales bad. Friedman bad.

Mineta
bad. Bolten bad. Chertoff bad. Bodman bad. Chao bad. Leavitt bad.
Spelling bad. Norton bad. Johaans bad. Jackson bad. Snow bad.

Nicholson
bad. Gutierrez bad. Bush judicial nominations bad. Bush evil.

Hey libs, did I get everyone?


Going to start name calling and general hatred for anything not as far
right as it can get soon?

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HarryKrause wrote:
Jim, wrote:
Dutch Iraq war crimes case opens

ROTTERDAM, Netherlands -- A Dutch court has opened hearings in

the
case
of a businessman accused of helping former Iraqi leader Saddam
Hussein
commit genocide by selling materials for chemical weapons to
Baghdad.

Frans Van Anraat, 62, appeared in a Rotterdam court Friday to

face
charges of complicity in war crimes and genocide.

"It was known since the mid-1980s that the Iraqi government

was
using
poison gas in the war against Iran and against its own

population,"

Reuters quoted prosecutor Fred Teeven as saying as he outlined

the
charges at a pre-trial hearing.

Van Anraat faces up to life in prison if convicted.

The Dutch chemicals dealer is accused of supplying thousands

of
tons of
raw materials for chemical weapons used in the 1980-88

Iran-Iraq
war.

Baghdad also used chemical weapons against Iraqi Kurds,

including a
1988
attack on the town of Halabja in which an estimated 5,000

people
were
killed.

The United Nations has described Van Anraat as "one of the

most
important middlemen in Iraq's acquisition of chemical

material,"
Reuters
reported prosecutors as saying.

Van Anraat has said in the past that he sold chemicals to

Saddam's
regime but that his actions were neither wrong nor illegal.

"The images of the gas attack on the Kurdish city Halabja were

a
shock.
But I did not give the order to do that. How many products,

such as

bullets do we make in the Netherlands?" Van Anraat told Dutch
magazine
Revu in 2003, according to Reuters.

He made similar statements in a 2003 interview with Dutch
television
program Netwerk, The Associated Press said.

"This was not my main business, this was something I did in
passing," he
was quoted as saying.

"Somewhere once back then, I got the request whether I could
deliver
certain products to them, which they needed," he said. "And

because
I
had a very good relationship with the (Iraqi) Oil Ministry,

and
that's
where the request came from, I tried to see if I could do it.

And
that
was successful and we did deliver some materials."

Among the chemicals he is alleged to have shipped is

thiodyglycol,
which
can be used in the production of mustard gas. It is alleged to

be
the
lethal chemical that was used in the Halabja attack.

Prosecutors said Anraat "knew the destination and ultimate

purpose
of
the materials he was shipping."

Van Anraat is alleged to have shipped the chemicals on a route

via
the
United States and Europe to Iraq. Authorities in the United

States,

Belgium, Germany, Italy and Switzerland contributed to the
investigation.

Dutch officials arrested van Anraat at his Amsterdam home in
December.

"The man is suspected of delivering thousands of tons of raw
materials
for chemical weapons to the former regime in Baghdad between

1984
and
1988," a December prosecution statement said.

Prosecutors say evidence against Van Anraat includes "official
Iraqi
documents" -- material which may also be used against Saddam

when
he
goes before an Iraqi tribunal on war crimes charges, AP

reported.

Van Anraat had been arrested in 1989 in Milan, Italy at the

request
of
the U.S. government, prosecutors said. He fled to Iraq after

being
released and remained there until 2003.

After the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, van Anraat
returned
to the Netherlands via Syria.

The case is seen as a landmark because it would be the first

time a

businessman has been prosecuted for war crimes by a national

court,
AP
reported. His trial starts in November.


That's good. When does Cheney go on trial?

Whenever that is, it won't be soon enough.....


The Democrat's mantra:

Cheney bad. Rice bad. Rumsfeld bad. Gonzales bad. Friedman

bad.
Mineta bad. Bolten bad. Chertoff bad. Bodman bad. Chao bad.

Leavitt
bad. Spelling bad. Norton bad. Johaans bad. Jackson bad. Snow

bad.
Nicholson bad. Gutierrez bad. Bush judicial nominations bad.

Bush
evil.

Hey libs, did I get everyone?


I thought Mineta was one of them. Isn't he a hold over from

Clinton?



Yes. But he is now on GWB's cabinet therefore he is bad according to

the
libs.


Libs? You've apparently been listening to Hannity too much.

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JimH wrote:
wrote in message
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HarryKrause wrote:
Jim, wrote:
Dutch Iraq war crimes case opens

ROTTERDAM, Netherlands -- A Dutch court has opened hearings in

the
case
of a businessman accused of helping former Iraqi leader Saddam
Hussein
commit genocide by selling materials for chemical weapons to
Baghdad.

Frans Van Anraat, 62, appeared in a Rotterdam court Friday to

face
charges of complicity in war crimes and genocide.

"It was known since the mid-1980s that the Iraqi government was
using
poison gas in the war against Iran and against its own

population,"

Reuters quoted prosecutor Fred Teeven as saying as he outlined

the
charges at a pre-trial hearing.

Van Anraat faces up to life in prison if convicted.

The Dutch chemicals dealer is accused of supplying thousands of
tons of
raw materials for chemical weapons used in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq
war.

Baghdad also used chemical weapons against Iraqi Kurds,

including a
1988
attack on the town of Halabja in which an estimated 5,000 people
were
killed.

The United Nations has described Van Anraat as "one of the most
important middlemen in Iraq's acquisition of chemical material,"
Reuters
reported prosecutors as saying.

Van Anraat has said in the past that he sold chemicals to

Saddam's
regime but that his actions were neither wrong nor illegal.

"The images of the gas attack on the Kurdish city Halabja were a
shock.
But I did not give the order to do that. How many products, such

as

bullets do we make in the Netherlands?" Van Anraat told Dutch
magazine
Revu in 2003, according to Reuters.

He made similar statements in a 2003 interview with Dutch
television
program Netwerk, The Associated Press said.

"This was not my main business, this was something I did in
passing," he
was quoted as saying.

"Somewhere once back then, I got the request whether I could
deliver
certain products to them, which they needed," he said. "And

because
I
had a very good relationship with the (Iraqi) Oil Ministry, and
that's
where the request came from, I tried to see if I could do it.

And
that
was successful and we did deliver some materials."

Among the chemicals he is alleged to have shipped is

thiodyglycol,
which
can be used in the production of mustard gas. It is alleged to

be
the
lethal chemical that was used in the Halabja attack.

Prosecutors said Anraat "knew the destination and ultimate

purpose
of
the materials he was shipping."

Van Anraat is alleged to have shipped the chemicals on a route

via
the
United States and Europe to Iraq. Authorities in the United

States,

Belgium, Germany, Italy and Switzerland contributed to the
investigation.

Dutch officials arrested van Anraat at his Amsterdam home in
December.

"The man is suspected of delivering thousands of tons of raw
materials
for chemical weapons to the former regime in Baghdad between

1984
and
1988," a December prosecution statement said.

Prosecutors say evidence against Van Anraat includes "official
Iraqi
documents" -- material which may also be used against Saddam

when
he
goes before an Iraqi tribunal on war crimes charges, AP

reported.

Van Anraat had been arrested in 1989 in Milan, Italy at the

request
of
the U.S. government, prosecutors said. He fled to Iraq after

being
released and remained there until 2003.

After the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, van Anraat
returned
to the Netherlands via Syria.

The case is seen as a landmark because it would be the first

time a

businessman has been prosecuted for war crimes by a national

court,
AP
reported. His trial starts in November.


That's good. When does Cheney go on trial?

Whenever that is, it won't be soon enough.....


The Democrat's mantra:

Cheney bad. Rice bad. Rumsfeld bad. Gonzales bad. Friedman bad.

Mineta
bad. Bolten bad. Chertoff bad. Bodman bad. Chao bad. Leavitt bad.
Spelling bad. Norton bad. Johaans bad. Jackson bad. Snow bad.

Nicholson
bad. Gutierrez bad. Bush judicial nominations bad. Bush evil.

Hey libs, did I get everyone?


Going to start name calling and general hatred for anything not as far
right as it can get soon?


Calling you a lib a lib is name calling? Whatever you say Kevin.


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