"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:48:24 -0500, DSK wrote:

The facts have never gotten into the way of NOYB's fantasies before.



NOYB wrote:
The funny thing is, Don, that once we start arguing facts, I always post
the
links to prove my point...and my opposition moves on to another thread.


That's just another fantasy... look at the record. When posting your
opinions, you usually flee as soon as facts enter the discussion. When
posting links to "prove your point" it usually turns out that you are
referencing either something totally unrelated or more right-wingnut
fantasy... it's often been pointed out to you that you don't read your
references very thoroughly, because info contradictory to your
statements is right there.

Then you move on to another thread.

DSK

No Doug, you're wrong. Nobby and Dave Hall tie you folks in knots. They do
it
repeatedly. Just sit back and watch some of the threads without getting
involved
in it. It's laughable.

Once again a liebral complains about the very thing they are guilty of.


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:48:24 -0500, DSK wrote:

The facts have never gotten into the way of NOYB's fantasies before.



NOYB wrote:
The funny thing is, Don, that once we start arguing facts, I always post
the
links to prove my point...and my opposition moves on to another thread.


That's just another fantasy... look at the record. When posting your
opinions, you usually flee as soon as facts enter the discussion. When
posting links to "prove your point" it usually turns out that you are
referencing either something totally unrelated or more right-wingnut
fantasy... it's often been pointed out to you that you don't read your
references very thoroughly, because info contradictory to your
statements is right there.

Then you move on to another thread.

DSK

No Doug, you're wrong. Nobby and Dave Hall tie you folks in knots. They do
it
repeatedly. Just sit back and watch some of the threads without getting
involved
in it. It's laughable.
--


I'm still waiting to see Doug's "proof" that the value of China's US
Treasury holdings is "7 times the United States' annual GDP". By my
calculations, that should put their holdings up around $82 trillion. That's
*TRILLION* with a "tr".

The odd thing is that after making that statement, he continued to stick
with it...even after he posted a link that cited their holdings at $500
billion. His own sources refute his argument, so I don't know why I even
bother citing *my* sources.

NOYB wrote:
I'm still waiting to see Doug's "proof" that the value of China's US
Treasury holdings is "7 times the United States' annual GDP". By my
calculations, that should put their holdings up around $82 trillion. That's
*TRILLION* with a "tr".

Can you not use Google?


The odd thing is that after making that statement, he continued to stick
with it...even after he posted a link that cited their holdings at $500
billion.

Wrong.

Can you not read?

That reference said that Chinese *cash reserves* were $500 billion.
That's dollars, not debt instruments (ie Treasuries).

Surely a man with your fiscal savvy knows the difference.

... His own sources refute his argument, so I don't know why I even
bother citing *my* sources.


I don't either. Probably because you can't read very well, and don't
have any patience for facts which contradict your prejudices. Same
reason why you think you're winning our little debates... until you run
away...

DSK

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:13:56 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:48:24 -0500, DSK wrote:

The facts have never gotten into the way of NOYB's fantasies before.



NOYB wrote:
The funny thing is, Don, that once we start arguing facts, I always post
the
links to prove my point...and my opposition moves on to another thread.


That's just another fantasy... look at the record. When posting your
opinions, you usually flee as soon as facts enter the discussion. When
posting links to "prove your point" it usually turns out that you are
referencing either something totally unrelated or more right-wingnut
fantasy... it's often been pointed out to you that you don't read your
references very thoroughly, because info contradictory to your
statements is right there.

Then you move on to another thread.

DSK

No Doug, you're wrong. Nobby and Dave Hall tie you folks in knots. They do
it
repeatedly. Just sit back and watch some of the threads without getting
involved
in it. It's laughable.
--


I'm still waiting to see Doug's "proof" that the value of China's US
Treasury holdings is "7 times the United States' annual GDP". By my
calculations, that should put their holdings up around $82 trillion. That's
*TRILLION* with a "tr".

The odd thing is that after making that statement, he continued to stick
with it...even after he posted a link that cited their holdings at $500
billion. His own sources refute his argument, so I don't know why I even
bother citing *my* sources.

Strange stuff happens in Never, Never Land!

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:52:13 -0500, DSK wrote:

NOYB wrote:
I'm still waiting to see Doug's "proof" that the value of China's US
Treasury holdings is "7 times the United States' annual GDP". By my
calculations, that should put their holdings up around $82 trillion. That's
*TRILLION* with a "tr".

Can you not use Google?


The odd thing is that after making that statement, he continued to stick
with it...even after he posted a link that cited their holdings at $500
billion.

Wrong.

Can you not read?

That reference said that Chinese *cash reserves* were $500 billion.
That's dollars, not debt instruments (ie Treasuries).

Surely a man with your fiscal savvy knows the difference.

... His own sources refute his argument, so I don't know why I even
bother citing *my* sources.


I don't either. Probably because you can't read very well, and don't
have any patience for facts which contradict your prejudices. Same
reason why you think you're winning our little debates... until you run
away...

DSK

Or maybe 'cause you lost again?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H wrote:
No Doug, you're wrong.

No, John, I'm not. Unfortunately.

... Nobby and Dave Hall tie you folks in knots. They do it
repeatedly. Just sit back and watch some of the threads without getting involved
in it. It's laughable.

What's laughable is that you think you're "winning."

Take a look at Dave Hall's increasingly petulant (look it up) posts
insisting that Iraq really really does have WMDs hidden *somewhere* long
after President Bush himself has admitted they were never there.

Take a look at Nobby (why do you call him that, too) floundering around
assuming that the Clinton Administration were the real pros at foreign
policy, who set the bar unrealisitically high for Bush/Cheney; and his
attempts to "prove" that we have an economic stranglehold over mainland
China thru Wal-Mart.

Take a look at yourself, who can do nothing more constructive than add
"me too, nyaa nyaa nyaa" to threads where the Bush/Cheney cheerleaders
are piling on.

All you guys can prove is that perhaps the average American really is so
ignorant and so gullible that Bush's recent election was not all that
difficult.

DSK

John H wrote:
Or maybe 'cause you lost again?

Or maybe because you don't know the difference between cash money and a
bond, either?

Dang, I was hoping you'd explain it to Nobby and save me the trouble.

DSK

Actually it made sense and was logical,

Very untypical for your style





"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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" Tuuk" wrote in message
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''''' Bush needs China's contribution to any solution to the N. Korean
problem.
Maybe. "'"'"'



kanter,,, as a lead puppet of krause's,, you have said some stupid,,
stupid ,,, embarrassing statements at times,, this one actually surprises
me. I am not sure if krause will be happy with it though,,,

What exactly do you find wrong with my statement, shmuck?

" Tuuk" wrote in message
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Actually it made sense and was logical,

Very untypical for your style

It's about time you got down on your knees and worshipped, you worthless
bucket of phlegm.











"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
" Tuuk" wrote in message
.. .
''''' Bush needs China's contribution to any solution to the N. Korean
problem.
Maybe. "'"'"'



kanter,,, as a lead puppet of krause's,, you have said some stupid,,
stupid ,,, embarrassing statements at times,, this one actually
surprises me. I am not sure if krause will be happy with it though,,,

What exactly do you find wrong with my statement, shmuck?

"DSK" wrote in message
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John H wrote:
Or maybe 'cause you lost again?

Or maybe because you don't know the difference between cash money and a
bond, either?

Dang, I was hoping you'd explain it to Nobby and save me the trouble.

DSK


A bond is what the government sells to raise money to cover the national
debt, or for temporary money. Since the national debt is about 7 trillion
dollars, that says there are 7 trillion in bonds outstanding. Since Savings
bonds are part of this, and lots of Americans have them, it would be hard to
have even the GDP value of the USA held by China.