"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
John H wrote:
Or maybe 'cause you lost again?

Or maybe because you don't know the difference between cash money and a
bond, either?

Dang, I was hoping you'd explain it to Nobby and save me the trouble.

DSK


A bond is what the government sells to raise money to cover the national
debt, or for temporary money. Since the national debt is about 7 trillion
dollars, that says there are 7 trillion in bonds outstanding. Since
Savings
bonds are part of this, and lots of Americans have them, it would be hard
to
have even the GDP value of the USA held by China.



Whoa! Did I say that Doug claimed US debt held by the Chinese was "7 times
our annual GDP"? I googled what he said, and here it is:

""Their thirst for US dollars" is already way way oversatisfied... they
are holding approximately 17 times our annual GDP in US debt.."

17 times our GDP!?!? Our annual GDP is roughly $11.73 TRILLION. That'd put
the debt figure at $199.46 TRILLION.

So, Dougie...
Are you sticking with your story that China holds $199.46 TRILLION in US
debt?

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
John H wrote:
No Doug, you're wrong.

No, John, I'm not. Unfortunately.

Yes, you are wrong, Doug.


You said: "they (the Chinese) are holding approximately 17 times our annual
GDP in US debt."

That means they'd have to be holding over $199 trillion in US debt...which
is a number that doesn't even meet the commonsense test. You do know what
commonsense is, right?

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:59:00 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
No Doug, you're wrong.

No, John, I'm not. Unfortunately.

... Nobby and Dave Hall tie you folks in knots. They do it
repeatedly. Just sit back and watch some of the threads without getting involved
in it. It's laughable.

What's laughable is that you think you're "winning."

Take a look at Dave Hall's increasingly petulant (look it up) posts
insisting that Iraq really really does have WMDs hidden *somewhere* long
after President Bush himself has admitted they were never there.

Take a look at Nobby (why do you call him that, too) floundering around
assuming that the Clinton Administration were the real pros at foreign
policy, who set the bar unrealisitically high for Bush/Cheney; and his
attempts to "prove" that we have an economic stranglehold over mainland
China thru Wal-Mart.

Take a look at yourself, who can do nothing more constructive than add
"me too, nyaa nyaa nyaa" to threads where the Bush/Cheney cheerleaders
are piling on.

All you guys can prove is that perhaps the average American really is so
ignorant and so gullible that Bush's recent election was not all that
difficult.

DSK

My responses to your posts are what the posts deserve.

Nobly has not attempted to prove what you say. He pointed out that your argument
was ridiculous.

Bush has never stated that Iraq never had WMD.

You state untruths and then expect people to take you seriously.

Bye.

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:39:42 -0500, John H wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:59:00 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
No Doug, you're wrong.

No, John, I'm not. Unfortunately.

... Nobby and Dave Hall tie you folks in knots. They do it
repeatedly. Just sit back and watch some of the threads without getting involved
in it. It's laughable.

What's laughable is that you think you're "winning."

Take a look at Dave Hall's increasingly petulant (look it up) posts
insisting that Iraq really really does have WMDs hidden *somewhere* long
after President Bush himself has admitted they were never there.

Take a look at Nobby (why do you call him that, too) floundering around
assuming that the Clinton Administration were the real pros at foreign
policy, who set the bar unrealisitically high for Bush/Cheney; and his
attempts to "prove" that we have an economic stranglehold over mainland
China thru Wal-Mart.

Take a look at yourself, who can do nothing more constructive than add
"me too, nyaa nyaa nyaa" to threads where the Bush/Cheney cheerleaders
are piling on.

All you guys can prove is that perhaps the average American really is so
ignorant and so gullible that Bush's recent election was not all that
difficult.

DSK

My responses to your posts are what the posts deserve.

Nobly has not attempted to prove what you say. He pointed out that your argument
was ridiculous.

Bush has never stated that Iraq never had WMD.

You state untruths and then expect people to take you seriously.

Bye.

Whoops, meant to type Nobby.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:29:46 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
John H wrote:
Or maybe 'cause you lost again?

Or maybe because you don't know the difference between cash money and a
bond, either?

Dang, I was hoping you'd explain it to Nobby and save me the trouble.

DSK


A bond is what the government sells to raise money to cover the national
debt, or for temporary money. Since the national debt is about 7 trillion
dollars, that says there are 7 trillion in bonds outstanding. Since
Savings
bonds are part of this, and lots of Americans have them, it would be hard
to
have even the GDP value of the USA held by China.



Whoa! Did I say that Doug claimed US debt held by the Chinese was "7 times
our annual GDP"? I googled what he said, and here it is:

""Their thirst for US dollars" is already way way oversatisfied... they
are holding approximately 17 times our annual GDP in US debt.."

17 times our GDP!?!? Our annual GDP is roughly $11.73 TRILLION. That'd put
the debt figure at $199.46 TRILLION.

So, Dougie...
Are you sticking with your story that China holds $199.46 TRILLION in US
debt?


I can't believe you made such a mistake!

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
John H wrote:
Or maybe 'cause you lost again?

Or maybe because you don't know the difference between cash money and a
bond, either?

Dang, I was hoping you'd explain it to Nobby and save me the trouble.

DSK


A bond is what the government sells to raise money to cover the national
debt, or for temporary money. Since the national debt is about 7
trillion
dollars, that says there are 7 trillion in bonds outstanding. Since
Savings
bonds are part of this, and lots of Americans have them, it would be hard
to
have even the GDP value of the USA held by China.



Whoa! Did I say that Doug claimed US debt held by the Chinese was "7
times our annual GDP"? I googled what he said, and here it is:

""Their thirst for US dollars" is already way way oversatisfied... they
are holding approximately 17 times our annual GDP in US debt.."

17 times our GDP!?!? Our annual GDP is roughly $11.73 TRILLION. That'd
put the debt figure at $199.46 TRILLION.

So, Dougie...
Are you sticking with your story that China holds $199.46 TRILLION in US
debt?



And Doug (the man who thinks that China holds $199.46 trillion in US debt)
disappears from a thread once again...

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:27:04 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
John H wrote:
Or maybe 'cause you lost again?

Or maybe because you don't know the difference between cash money and a
bond, either?

Dang, I was hoping you'd explain it to Nobby and save me the trouble.

DSK


A bond is what the government sells to raise money to cover the national
debt, or for temporary money. Since the national debt is about 7
trillion
dollars, that says there are 7 trillion in bonds outstanding. Since
Savings
bonds are part of this, and lots of Americans have them, it would be hard
to
have even the GDP value of the USA held by China.



Whoa! Did I say that Doug claimed US debt held by the Chinese was "7
times our annual GDP"? I googled what he said, and here it is:

""Their thirst for US dollars" is already way way oversatisfied... they
are holding approximately 17 times our annual GDP in US debt.."

17 times our GDP!?!? Our annual GDP is roughly $11.73 TRILLION. That'd
put the debt figure at $199.46 TRILLION.

So, Dougie...
Are you sticking with your story that China holds $199.46 TRILLION in US
debt?



And Doug (the man who thinks that China holds $199.46 trillion in US debt)
disappears from a thread once again...


It was a good show while it lasted, though!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

NOYB wrote:
And Doug (the man who thinks that China holds $199.46 trillion in US debt)
disappears from a thread once again...


I'm right here.

Let's see... you can't use Google... you can't do math... you don't know
the difference between bonds & cash... you think the U.S. can bankrupt
China via Wal-Mart...

You and JohnH are winning, all right.

DSK

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:09:51 -0500, DSK wrote:

NOYB wrote:
And Doug (the man who thinks that China holds $199.46 trillion in US debt)
disappears from a thread once again...


I'm right here.

Let's see... you can't use Google... you can't do math... you don't know
the difference between bonds & cash... you think the U.S. can bankrupt
China via Wal-Mart...

Wow, that was one fancy dance. Fred Astaire would be proud.

Dave

Let's see... you can't use Google... you can't do math... you don't know
the difference between bonds & cash... you think the U.S. can bankrupt
China via Wal-Mart...


Dave Hall wrote:
Wow, that was one fancy dance. Fred Astaire would be proud.

WTF are you talking about? NOBBY has misquoted one of my posts... same
thing as lying in my book, but the Bushies seem to feel there's nothing
immoral about lying...

Then a big list of all his other errors and you accuse me of "dancing"?
Do you have anything at all to say other than moronic name-calling?

DSK