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About Scotty
Has anyone else noticed that he is really coming apart at the seems?
He starts out sort of dignified and even prissy, but as his own thoughts are turned inward on him through conflict with basic logic and reason, he comes unravelled rather quickly and starts to lash out in a vulgar and violent fashion. What we seem to have here is an angry ex-cop anxious for the opportunity to kill someone. One day it will be a moment of dubious distinction to be able to say "I corresponded with Scott Weiser before he went postal." |
KMAN wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that he is really coming apart at the seems? He has done so every time someone went after him with arguments. Unfortunately, the problem is not that he eventually gets unmasked as a troll with nothing meaningful to say, but that he manages to draw so many people into arguing with him every time he feels like trolling, before those people come to that very conclusion for themselves. Please stop feeding the sick puppy, since most of us are fully aware of the mess he is capable of creating, every time he lures someone new in. -- Wilko van den Bergh wilko(a t)dse(d o t)nl Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe ---Look at the possibilities, don't worry about the limitations.--- http://wilko.webzone.ru/ |
"Wilko" wrote in message ... KMAN wrote: Has anyone else noticed that he is really coming apart at the seems? Correction! It seems he is coming apart at the seams :-) He has done so every time someone went after him with arguments. Unfortunately, the problem is not that he eventually gets unmasked as a troll with nothing meaningful to say, but that he manages to draw so many people into arguing with him every time he feels like trolling, before those people come to that very conclusion for themselves. I would not put him in the troll category. I think he mostly believes what he says, which is why he is both fascinating and...well...creepy. Please stop feeding the sick puppy, since most of us are fully aware of the mess he is capable of creating, every time he lures someone new in. I still have several weeks before the ice is out, so no promises :-D |
KMAN says:
=============== I still have several weeks before the ice is out, so no promises :-D ================ And of course, it is statements like the above that make those of us on the Wet Coast so annoying -- we love to tell you that the temp is in the low to mid teens (C) and that with a bit of sunshine everything will be great for a little paddle/pedal. Don't you just hate us? What's the little emoticon for "gloat"? Cheers, frtzw906 |
"BCITORGB" wrote in message oups.com... KMAN says: =============== I still have several weeks before the ice is out, so no promises :-D ================ And of course, it is statements like the above that make those of us on the Wet Coast so annoying -- we love to tell you that the temp is in the low to mid teens (C) and that with a bit of sunshine everything will be great for a little paddle/pedal. Don't you just hate us? What's the little emoticon for "gloat"? Cheers, frtzw906 LOL. Out here in the East we figure it's a fair trade to have more ice and snow but less yuppie snots! ;-D |
KMAN says:
=============== LOL. Out here in the East we figure it's a fair trade to have more ice and snow but less yuppie snots! ;-D ================== OK, that accounts for the ice and snow. Now what about the mosquitoes, black flys, noseeums, etc? What are you trading those for? ;-D ... is that a gloat or is it a belly laugh? Cheers, frtzw906 |
KMAN wrote:
"Wilko" wrote in message ... KMAN wrote: Has anyone else noticed that he is really coming apart at the seems? Correction! It seems he is coming apart at the seams :-) He has done so every time someone went after him with arguments. Unfortunately, the problem is not that he eventually gets unmasked as a troll with nothing meaningful to say, but that he manages to draw so many people into arguing with him every time he feels like trolling, before those people come to that very conclusion for themselves. I would not put him in the troll category. I think he mostly believes what he says, which is why he is both fascinating and...well...creepy. Wilko is correct. And so are you. Scott is a very intelligent and extremely well spoken 'troll' of sorts. Look at his sig. file, that should clue you into who Scott is. Scott thrives on anyone who disagrees with him. He will NOT back down, ever, the only way to win is to cease playing the game. I know this because 1) I've done battle with him in the past and 2) there's a little (OK, a LOT!) of Scott in me too! ;-) John Kuthe... |
"BCITORGB" wrote in news:1110398126.374531.240200
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com: KMAN says: =============== I still have several weeks before the ice is out, so no promises :-D ================ And of course, it is statements like the above that make those of us on the Wet Coast so annoying -- we love to tell you that the temp is in the low to mid teens (C) and that with a bit of sunshine everything will be great for a little paddle/pedal. Don't you just hate us? Not really, but that might have to do with the fact that I was born on (within an 1/8th of a mile) and lived for 40 years there, yet now I live on the east coast. There's a reason for that. |
"BCITORGB" wrote in news:1110400475.468092.115680
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: KMAN says: =============== LOL. Out here in the East we figure it's a fair trade to have more ice and snow but less yuppie snots! ;-D ================== OK, that accounts for the ice and snow. Now what about the mosquitoes, black flys, noseeums, etc? What are you trading those for? At least in my neck of the woods we don't get black flys or noseeums and the mosquitoe season is pretty light and only during the warm month. That's an easy trade for hour long 10 mile commutes. We have 4 real seasons. There's also the real estate market. Last fall my mother-n-father in law bought a house about 10 minutes from "downtown" Ithaca. It's a nice two level 3br, 2ba house with a huge two car garage on 25 wooded acres. They paid less than $200K for it. For paddling there's a 40 mile long lake within walking distance (the best route is through one of the gorges which has a couple of 50' water falls). If I wanted to I could launch onto the lake, paddle north to the Seneca river, make my way to the Erie canal and then either go south down the Hudson river to the ocean or north through Lake Champlain to the St Lawrence river and out to the ocean. It's about a 5 hour drive to the ocean otherwise (about what I used to do to go skiing when I lived on the west coast). During the winter, a flight to Florida or other southern states for some warm water winter paddling takes only a few hours and is typically under $300. Otherwise there's always pool sessions, or building a new boat in my basement. Also being on the east coast there are frequently some good airfares to Europe. A couple of months ago I saw a r/t fare to London for just over $200. |
"BCITORGB" wrote in message oups.com... KMAN says: =============== LOL. Out here in the East we figure it's a fair trade to have more ice and snow but less yuppie snots! ;-D ================== OK, that accounts for the ice and snow. Now what about the mosquitoes, black flys, noseeums, etc? What are you trading those for? ;-D ... is that a gloat or is it a belly laugh? Cheers, frtzw906 Damn you. |
"John Kuthe" wrote in message ... KMAN wrote: "Wilko" wrote in message ... KMAN wrote: Has anyone else noticed that he is really coming apart at the seems? Correction! It seems he is coming apart at the seams :-) He has done so every time someone went after him with arguments. Unfortunately, the problem is not that he eventually gets unmasked as a troll with nothing meaningful to say, but that he manages to draw so many people into arguing with him every time he feels like trolling, before those people come to that very conclusion for themselves. I would not put him in the troll category. I think he mostly believes what he says, which is why he is both fascinating and...well...creepy. Wilko is correct. And so are you. Scott is a very intelligent and extremely well spoken 'troll' of sorts. Look at his sig. file, that should clue you into who Scott is. Scott thrives on anyone who disagrees with him. He will NOT back down, ever, the only way to win is to cease playing the game. I know this because 1) I've done battle with him in the past and 2) there's a little (OK, a LOT!) of Scott in me too! ;-) John Kuthe... I feel he's already backed down by losing his cool and showing his anger and frustration as an ex-cop that is devoting his life to the opportunity to shoot someone :-\ |
John Fereira says:
=============== There's also the real estate market. Last fall my mother-n-father in law bought a house about 10 minutes from "downtown" Ithaca. It's a nice two level 3br, 2ba house with a huge two car garage on 25 wooded acres. They paid less than $200K for it. ============== You're certainly not going to get that around here. But it reminds me of a recent radio discussion of real estate prices across Canada. The economist suggested that prices are actually much higher in Winnipeg than in Vancouver. Whilst picking his jaw off the floor, the host blurted out, "That's ridiculous!" To which the economist responded, "Not if you factor in the fact that, when buying real estate in Winnipeg, you also have to live there." Of course the economist was having a bit of fun with words, but it did make me think about the various trade-offs we make in our lives. Cheers, frtzw906 |
KMAN says:
============= Damn you. ============== Jeez, I was hoping you'd have a rain-related retort (cliche though that may be). Which I would have gladly responded to with "what about the humidity?" If it weren't for the weather, I'd have way fewer reasons to call my best buddy in Ottawa. What makes it particularly delicious is that he's lived here and would love to come back. However, his wife is nth generation Ottawa and not likely to leave. BTW, on another thread, at another time, I'd appreciate your opinion of kayaking the Rideau and sundry other canals around Ottawa. Cheers, frtzw906 |
"BCITORGB" wrote in message oups.com... KMAN says: =============== LOL. Out here in the East we figure it's a fair trade to have more ice and snow but less yuppie snots! ;-D ================== OK, that accounts for the ice and snow. Now what about the mosquitoes, black flys, noseeums, etc? What are you trading those for? What do ya got? I'd settle for a beer - it could even be cheap beer. ;-D ... is that a gloat or is it a belly laugh? Cheers, frtzw906 |
No Spam wants to trade:
==================== What do ya got? I'd settle for a beer - it could even be cheap beer. ===================== Now you haven't been following the thread carefully now have you? As KMAN points out, I'm in the land "yuppie snots". We don't ever use the words "beer" and "cheap" in the same sentence. If it's not micro-brewery beer according to the Bavarian Purity Law, we don't allow it to pass our lips. And our coffees are only bird-friendly, fair trade, elixirs. GRIN But perhaps there's something we can trade. Oh, BTW, our grow-ops are reputed to produce some of the finest stuff around. I understand there's a brisk trade in that (much to the chagrin of the border police). frtzw906 |
in article , BCITORGB
at wrote on 3/9/05 7:18 PM: KMAN says: ============= Damn you. ============== Jeez, I was hoping you'd have a rain-related retort (cliche though that may be). Which I would have gladly responded to with "what about the humidity?" Ottawa has massive precipitation if you include both snow and rain :-) If it weren't for the weather, I'd have way fewer reasons to call my best buddy in Ottawa. What makes it particularly delicious is that he's lived here and would love to come back. However, his wife is nth generation Ottawa and not likely to leave. Yeah, Ottawans are like that. BTW, on another thread, at another time, I'd appreciate your opinion of kayaking the Rideau and sundry other canals around Ottawa. Cheers, frtzw906 Heh. Just check out www.gokayaking.ca In terms of canals "in" Ottawa, there's only one and it doesn't offer much for paddling. But the Rideau River has some fun little trips right in town depending on the season, and continues down to Kingston as part of the canal system and there are lots of great trips in there. My wife and I moved to a shoreline property on the mighty Ottawa River in December and can't wait for the ice to go out...it's going to be amazing to be ten seconds from getting on the water! |
KMAN said:
================== Heh. Just check out www.gokayaking.ca ==================== Wow! Nice site. If the weater weren't getting so good, I think I'd be spending more than a few hours visiting... I will anyway! KMAN: ================= In terms of canals "in" Ottawa, there's only one and it doesn't offer much for paddling. But the Rideau River has some fun little trips right in town depending on the season, and continues down to Kingston as part of the canal system and there are lots of great trips in there. ================== Two years ago, after my Ottawa buddy and I did some kayaking around Nanaimo, we talked about me coming out east, and we dreamed about the Kingston trip. KMAN: ============= My wife and I moved to a shoreline property on the mighty Ottawa River in December and can't wait for the ice to go out...it's going to be amazing to be ten seconds from getting on the water! ====================== Man! And I thought I had it sweet with only a 5 minute drive to the beach on English Bay. That 10 seconds sounds amazing indeed. Cheers, wilf |
in article , BCITORGB
at wrote on 3/9/05 9:44 PM: KMAN said: ================== Heh. Just check out www.gokayaking.ca ==================== Wow! Nice site. If the weater weren't getting so good, I think I'd be spending more than a few hours visiting... I will anyway! KMAN: ================= In terms of canals "in" Ottawa, there's only one and it doesn't offer much for paddling. But the Rideau River has some fun little trips right in town depending on the season, and continues down to Kingston as part of the canal system and there are lots of great trips in there. ================== Two years ago, after my Ottawa buddy and I did some kayaking around Nanaimo, we talked about me coming out east, and we dreamed about the Kingston trip. KMAN: ============= My wife and I moved to a shoreline property on the mighty Ottawa River in December and can't wait for the ice to go out...it's going to be amazing to be ten seconds from getting on the water! ====================== Man! And I thought I had it sweet with only a 5 minute drive to the beach on English Bay. That 10 seconds sounds amazing indeed. Cheers, wilf We finally figured out that if we were serious about paddling on a more frequent basis we'd have to do something drastic. A 5 minute drive to English Bay sounds pretty good! My dream is to buy up one of the little cottages nearby and turn it into a specialized B&B for paddlers :-) |
A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that he is really coming apart at the seems? That would be "seams" you illiterate putz. He starts out sort of dignified and even prissy, but as his own thoughts are turned inward on him through conflict with basic logic and reason, he comes unravelled rather quickly and starts to lash out in a vulgar and violent fashion. Wrong. I only engage in vulgar insult in direct response to your vulgar insults. What we seem to have here is an angry ex-cop anxious for the opportunity to kill someone. Hm. Well, I suppose that means you ought to stay the hell away from Colorado. Suits me. One day it will be a moment of dubious distinction to be able to say "I corresponded with Scott Weiser before he went postal." Don't hold your breath....no, wait, DO hold your breath waiting for it. -- Regards, Scott Weiser "I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM © 2005 Scott Weiser |
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KMAN wrote:
[snip] What we seem to have here is an angry ex-cop anxious for the opportunity to kill someone. [snip] You flatter him. Actually, he is an angry cop-WANNABE. Don't let his "we in the LEO community" rhetoric fool you; he lived on the outskirts. He seems to have spent a year or so in the early '90's as a police dispatcher or a clerk in a police station, or something like that, but I believe the record will show that he has never been a cop. Angry and bitter though he is, and misguided in his confusions about gun ownership vs. social responsibility, property ownership vs. social responsibility, etc. (the general red-state "rugged individualist" selfishness and greed institutionalized in our small-minded and short-sighted Republican Party), I think Scott Weiser has a core of decency that gets hidden by his usual defensive babble. Much like many of the religious right, who are actually quite nice people when they are not trying to force you to live yer life according to their primitive superstitions, I think Scott is probably quite a nice person when he is not lost in his idiological stupor, or smarting about the fact that his life has not been a success and he doesn't quite know whom to blame. -Richard, His Kanubic Travesty -- ================================================== ==================== Richard Hopley Winston-Salem, NC, USA rhopley[at]earthlink[dot]net Nothing really matters except Boats, Sex, and Rock'n'Roll rhopley[at]wfubmc[dot]edu OK, OK; computer programming for scientific research also matters ================================================== ==================== |
KMAN wrote:
I feel he's already backed down by losing his cool and showing his anger and frustration as an ex-cop that is devoting his life to the opportunity to shoot someone :-\ Youi are still hooked! Let it go, man!! ;-) John Kuthe... |
Oci-One Kanubi wrote:
: KMAN wrote: : : [snip] : : What we seem to have here is an angry ex-cop anxious for the : opportunity to kill someone. : : [snip] : You flatter him. Actually, he is an angry cop-WANNABE. Don't let his : "we in the LEO community" rhetoric fool you; he lived on the outskirts. : He seems to have spent a year or so in the early '90's as a police : dispatcher or a clerk in a police station, or something like that, but : I believe the record will show that he has never been a cop. : Angry and bitter though he is, and misguided in his confusions about : gun ownership vs. social responsibility, property ownership vs. social : responsibility, etc. (the general red-state "rugged individualist" : selfishness and greed institutionalized in our small-minded and : short-sighted Republican Party), I think Scott Weiser has a core of : decency that gets hidden by his usual defensive babble. Much like many : of the religious right, who are actually quite nice people when they : are not trying to force you to live yer life according to their : primitive superstitions, I think Scott is probably quite a nice person : when he is not lost in his idiological stupor, or smarting about the : fact that his life has not been a success and he doesn't quite know : whom to blame. You obviously haven't been chatting/arguing with Scott long enough here if you don't know what he does/did for a living back in the early days (since we were all protesting that he was posting from his work email address) http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...5 312500b11bf He was a Kampus Kop at University of Colorado who became famous locally for driving his Hummer in the left lane of the highway at 55mph.... One of the Boulder newsgroups had a story about him from a local paper once... I miss netcom... service was good for a while... -- John Nelson ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chicago Area Paddling/Fishing Page http://www.chicagopaddling.org http://www.chicagofishing.org (A Non-Commercial Web Site: No Sponsors, No Paid Ads and Nothing to Sell) |
"Oci-One Kanubi" wrote in message oups.com... KMAN wrote: [snip] What we seem to have here is an angry ex-cop anxious for the opportunity to kill someone. [snip] You flatter him. Actually, he is an angry cop-WANNABE. Don't let his "we in the LEO community" rhetoric fool you; he lived on the outskirts. He seems to have spent a year or so in the early '90's as a police dispatcher or a clerk in a police station, or something like that, but I believe the record will show that he has never been a cop. Angry and bitter though he is, and misguided in his confusions about gun ownership vs. social responsibility, property ownership vs. social responsibility, etc. (the general red-state "rugged individualist" selfishness and greed institutionalized in our small-minded and short-sighted Republican Party), I think Scott Weiser has a core of decency that gets hidden by his usual defensive babble. Much like many of the religious right, who are actually quite nice people when they are not trying to force you to live yer life according to their primitive superstitions, I think Scott is probably quite a nice person when he is not lost in his idiological stupor, or smarting about the fact that his life has not been a success and he doesn't quite know whom to blame. Could be! But the weight of all that luggage clearly places an excessive burden on his troubled mind. |
"John Kuthe" wrote in message ... KMAN wrote: I feel he's already backed down by losing his cool and showing his anger and frustration as an ex-cop that is devoting his life to the opportunity to shoot someone :-\ Youi are still hooked! Let it go, man!! ;-) John Kuthe... It's like a train wreck... |
Chicago says:
=========== You obviously haven't been chatting/arguing with Scott long enough here if you don't know what he does/did for a living back in the early days (since we were all protesting that he was posting from his work email address) http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...ssages/88f2542... He was a Kampus Kop at University of Colorado who became famous locally for driving his Hummer in the left lane of the highway at 55mph.... ================= Hey, that was a fun trip down memory-lane (Hummer and all...). Kampus Kop eh? frtzw906 |
Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:
Oci-One Kanubi wrote: : KMAN wrote: : : [snip] : : ) http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...5 312500b11bf He was a Kampus Kop at University of Colorado who became famous locally for driving his Hummer in the left lane of the highway at 55mph.... One of the Boulder newsgroups had a story about him from a local paper once... I miss netcom... service was good for a while... ***I*** miss Chris Bell, Chip Mefford, Brad Whitehurst... -Richard, His Kanubic Travesty -- ================================================== ==================== Richard Hopley Winston-Salem, NC, USA .. rhopley[at]earthlink[dot]net .. Nothing really matters except Boats, Sex, and Rock'n'Roll .. rhopley[at]wfubmc[dot]edu .. OK, OK; computer programming for scientific research also matters ================================================== ==================== |
KMAN wrote:
"John Kuthe" wrote in message ... KMAN wrote: I feel he's already backed down by losing his cool and showing his anger and frustration as an ex-cop that is devoting his life to the opportunity to shoot someone :-\ Youi are still hooked! Let it go, man!! ;-) John Kuthe... It's like a train wreck... I know it's hard, but you can do it! I trained myself not to look at car accidents! It was hard, but I did it! You can too! I have confidence in ya, man! :-) John Kuthe... |
A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote:
I feel he's already backed down by losing his cool and showing his anger and frustration as an ex-cop that is devoting his life to the opportunity to shoot someone :-\ Actually, you're the one who has been losing his cool. You (and Mike) insisted on posting personal insults rather than discussing the issues without rancor. As is my policy, when Netwits such as yourself resort to ad hominem attack, I reply in kind. Unlike you, however, I'm not in the least bit angry or upset. I don't have that much emotion invested in an on-line conversation with an idiot like you. I expect fractional wits such as you to do exactly as you have done. In fact I welcome it because it simply proves to the world your lack of intellect and ability to form rational, supportable arguments, and your inability to accept your limitations without resorting to bluster and insult. Once I find Netwits like you, I like to have some fun twitting you and watching you foam at the mouth, rant, and rave. It's most amusing, and you are the one making a fool of yourself. As anyone who's been around here a while can tell you, I'm perfectly happy to return to polite, if spirited discourse at any time and engage anyone interested in some intellectual exercise in a debate that may, or may not lead to a mutually satisfactory conclusion. I enjoy the journey, but have no particular destination in mind, so I just go with the flow of the debate, following it where it goes until I get bored. You haven't really bored me yet, because it's still funny to watch you froth and flail about. -- Regards, Scott Weiser "I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM © 2005 Scott Weiser |
"Scott Weiser" wrote in message ... A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote: I feel he's already backed down by losing his cool and showing his anger and frustration as an ex-cop that is devoting his life to the opportunity to shoot someone :-\ Actually, you're the one who has been losing his cool. You (and Mike) insisted on posting personal insults rather than discussing the issues without rancor. I'm sure you've twisted it in your mind to see it that way, but that certainly wasn't the order of operations in our interactions. You blew your cool and started cursing and hurling insults... As is my policy, when Netwits such as yourself resort to ad hominem attack, I reply in kind. ....and you haven't been able to stop since. Unlike you, however, I'm not in the least bit angry or upset. I'm sure you're feeling much better. I don't have that much emotion invested in an on-line conversation with an idiot like you. You see, I still think you are upset and you haven't recovered. I expect fractional wits such as you to do exactly as you have done. In fact I welcome it because it simply proves to the world your lack of intellect and ability to form rational, supportable arguments, and your inability to accept your limitations without resorting to bluster and insult. Again, it seems to me that you are the one engaging in the bluster and insult. Once I find Netwits like you, I like to have some fun twitting you and watching you foam at the mouth, rant, and rave. It's most amusing, and you are the one making a fool of yourself. I am sure that would be fun, but thus far, the only ranting and raving is coming from Scott Weiser. As anyone who's been around here a while can tell you, I'm perfectly happy to return to polite, if spirited discourse at any time and engage anyone interested in some intellectual exercise in a debate that may, or may not lead to a mutually satisfactory conclusion. It sounds like you have control issues but at the same time you feel the need to maintain a veneer of decency. I enjoy the journey, but have no particular destination in mind, so I just go with the flow of the debate, following it where it goes until I get bored. You haven't really bored me yet, because it's still funny to watch you froth and flail about. Again, check the mirror, wipe your mouth, and get a grip. You need to read your own blather and see where the frothing and flailing is really coming from. |
A Usenet persona calling itself Oci-One Kanubi wrote:
KMAN wrote: [snip] What we seem to have here is an angry ex-cop anxious for the opportunity to kill someone. [snip] You flatter him. Actually, he is an angry cop-WANNABE. Don't let his "we in the LEO community" rhetoric fool you; he lived on the outskirts. He seems to have spent a year or so in the early '90's as a police dispatcher or a clerk in a police station, or something like that, but I believe the record will show that he has never been a cop. You would be wrong. Angry and bitter though he is, and misguided in his confusions about gun ownership vs. social responsibility, property ownership vs. social responsibility, Ah, the typical socialist-collectivist dismissal of private property rights. You try to characterize anyone who defends their private property rights as being somehow "socially irresponsible" because it might happen to interfere with your selfish personal pleasure by excluding you from private streams. Sorry, but the Constitution guarantees the right of private property owners to exclude others. If you want to live in a socialist state, I suggest Cuba. etc. (the general red-state "rugged individualist" selfishness More socialist sneering. It's not the "rugged individualists" who are selfish, it is you, who demands unfettered and unobstructed access to whatever recreational venues you prefer, no matter that they may belong to someone else. You're like a two year old coveting your brother's toys. and greed institutionalized in our small-minded and short-sighted Republican Party), And I suppose that the computer you are using to post this swill belongs to the Proletariat? If so, how about I come and expropriate it, along with your kayak, because I want to use it? Or are you too greedy, shortsighted and small minded for that? I think Scott Weiser has a core of decency that gets hidden by his usual defensive babble. How very backhandedly kind of you... Much like many of the religious right, Typical of the liberal left to characterize anyone who doesn't agree with their socialist agenda as "religious right." who are actually quite nice people when they are not trying to force you to live yer life according to their primitive superstitions, I think Scott is probably quite a nice person when he is not lost in his idiological stupor, or smarting about the fact that his life has not been a success and he doesn't quite know whom to blame. Or, maybe I just like twitting Netwits like you and watching you parade your ignorance. -- Regards, Scott Weiser "I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM © 2005 Scott Weiser |
Weiser says:
================ It's not the "rugged individualists" who are selfish, it is you, who demands unfettered and unobstructed access to whatever recreational venues you prefer, no matter that they may belong to someone else. You're like a two year old coveting your brother's toys. =================== Which begs the question -- a public policy question: is it morally right for certain venues to be private? Or, would it be more appropriate to keep some venues in the public domain, in perpetuity? [BTW, the answer to that is very clearly "YES"] Then there is the further question which pertains to "How" these venues got into private hands. And yet another question: Is the public good or public interest being served by having these venues in private hands? Private property is private only so long as the state deems it to be private. frtzw906 |
A Usenet persona calling itself John Kuthe wrote:
KMAN wrote: I feel he's already backed down by losing his cool and showing his anger and frustration as an ex-cop that is devoting his life to the opportunity to shoot someone :-\ Youi are still hooked! ....and he's getting tired too. I'm about to reel him in, whack him over the head, gut him, clean him, fillet him and plop him in the pan with some butter and herbs. Let it go, man!! ;-) He can't. He's already addicted... John Kuthe... Nice to hear from you again, John. -- Regards, Scott Weiser "I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM © 2005 Scott Weiser |
A Usenet persona calling itself Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:
You obviously haven't been chatting/arguing with Scott long enough here if you don't know what he does/did for a living back in the early days (since we were all protesting that he was posting from his work email address) He was a Kampus Kop at University of Colorado who became famous locally for driving his Hummer in the left lane of the highway at 55mph.... One of the Boulder newsgroups had a story about him from a local paper once... I miss netcom... service was good for a while... No, no, no... Once again, I was not a police officer at the University of Colorado, I was a police dispatcher at CU. I was a police officer elsewhere, prior to becoming a police dispatcher at CU. My retirement from being a police officer was the result of a back injury, and I took up dispatching because I was well qualified for the job, having been a cop, and my back problems didn't preclude me from doing it. As for driving in the left lane, that's true, though the speed was "the legal speed limit," not necessarily 55 mph. I still do it, though there are now some legal hoops to jump through to do it legally in Colorado. And the story was an article by Wayne Laugesen in the Boulder Weekly called "A Most Annoying Netizen." It may still be in the BW archives. -- Regards, Scott Weiser "I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM © 2005 Scott Weiser |
Scott Weiser wrote:
Nice to hear from you again, John. Me too Scott! :-) John Kuthe... |
Scott Weiser wrote:
As for driving in the left lane, that's true, though the speed was "the legal speed limit," not necessarily 55 mph. I still do it, though there are now some legal hoops to jump through to do it legally in Colorado. I'm a left lane driver too Scott! Because as I understand it, the left lane is for faster traffic, and I *am* faster traffic! If I drive in the right lane, I have to keep changing lanes into the left lane to pass the person driving slower than I am in the right lane, then changing lanes back again, thereby increasing the miles I must drive to go the same linear distance, plus all the hazards associated with changing lanes! Of couse, one responsibility of any left lane driver is they must always be mindful of their rear view, because if someone is driving faster that they are and coming up behind them in the left lane, they *must* get over to the right lane to allow them to pass, as passing on the right is very unsafe!! ;-) John Kuthe... |
BCITORGB wrote: Weiser says: ================ It's not the "rugged individualists" who are selfish, it is you, who demands unfettered and unobstructed access to whatever recreational venues you prefer, no matter that they may belong to someone else. You're like a two year old coveting your brother's toys. =================== Which begs the question -- a public policy question: is it morally right for certain venues to be private? Or, would it be more appropriate to keep some venues in the public domain, in perpetuity? [BTW, the answer to that is very clearly "YES"] Then there is the further question which pertains to "How" these venues got into private hands. And yet another question: Is the public good or public interest being served by having these venues in private hands? Private property is private only so long as the state deems it to be private. frtzw906 Hey Scott, in light of this post, and preceding, I was wondering if it would be possible for us to meet sometime. I have always wanted to meet a fire breathing dragon, though I also always thought they were just a figment of vivid imaginations. And to hear that there is one so close up in Boulder. I am up that way every once in awhile, and I have heard that all kinds of strange things live in Boulder, but a dragon I would really like to see. However, I would be sure and contact you first, so I don't stumble into your line of fire with all those guns you keep strapped on you and probably mounted on fire platforms with fields of fire all scoped in. I hate getting shot at, or worse yet shot. Especially when I just wanted to say hi! Of course I would also like to check out this mighty river running through their. Now I am familiar with the area a bit, and for the life of me I can not figure where this hot kayaking spot known as the Grand Canyon of Boulder is located. If you could send me a map, and also a visa to visit the Liberal Republic of Boulder, that would be great, and much appreciated. It seems strange to me that with all I hear, that you have been able to even survive in that Liberal bastion. Probably your CCW that has kept them at bay. Maybe you have also learned to talk to them to keep them off balance. Seems that you have been doing alright, whatever you had to learn to survive. Would you mind if I brought my camera, I would love to take a few pictures to show some of my friends. They will not believe unless I show them pictures that I actually saw a fire-breathing, gun-toting, right-wing nut, survivalist, that lives in Boulder. :-) TnT |
BCITORGB wrote:
Weiser says: [all deleted!] OMIGOSH man! Don't even start that! you will NOT win! Even I, the "Ivory Tower Anarchist" agrees with Scott on this one! Shoulds are all fine and dandy, but we live in a world of is', not shoulds! If *I* owned a put-in or a take-out, and any waterway boaters wanted to boat, *I'd* probably let them, but I'd not want to be *forced* to let them, yano? Nor would you, I can practically guarantee! John Kuthe... |
A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:
Weiser says: ================ It's not the "rugged individualists" who are selfish, it is you, who demands unfettered and unobstructed access to whatever recreational venues you prefer, no matter that they may belong to someone else. You're like a two year old coveting your brother's toys. =================== Which begs the question -- a public policy question: is it morally right for certain venues to be private? Of course, if they are private. There's nothing at all immoral about owning something that someone else, or the general public want or covet. What's immoral is when the public decides that it "needs" the thing more than the owner and decides to take it away from him without either asking or paying for the right to do so. Or, would it be more appropriate to keep some venues in the public domain, in perpetuity? [BTW, the answer to that is very clearly "YES"] Indeed, but the key word is "some." Too many paddlers want it all, and won't be satisfied with "some." And, all you have to do to obtain a particular venue that you treasure and place it in the public domain in perpetuity is to PAY FOR IT. That is what the Constitution requires. You don't get to use it without paying for it if somebody else already owns it. Then there is the further question which pertains to "How" these venues got into private hands. By grants of Congress and devolvement of title according to law. The only way to interfere with that title is according to law. You don't get to use it or take it just because you want it. And yet another question: Is the public good or public interest being served by having these venues in private hands? When it comes to private property, private rights trump public interest unless and until the public comes up with the cumshaw (and the legal justification of "public use") to purchase that which it wants to put to public use. Private property is private only so long as the state deems it to be private. Maybe in Canada. Down here, private property is private until the state lawfully exercises its powers of eminent domain and provides just compensating for the taking. If you want to use it, or open it to public use, all you have to do is pay for it. Pretty simple, actually. Unfortunately, most liberal-socialists are parsimonious in the extreme and think they ought to be given everything for free. Sorry, but that's not the way it works down here. -- Regards, Scott Weiser "I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM © 2005 Scott Weiser |
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