On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:18:56 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Joe Parsons wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 06:07:05 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

[snip]

Joe, you a math minor in a business major?
Bill

Neither. I'm a writer.

Another Harry

I didn't miss your smiley (however ironic it might be), but I do have to make a
couple of observations about your comment:

First, that it is an example of a logical fallacy called "hasty generalization."
It goes like this:

Harry is an often flagrantly rude participant who espouses a
predominately "liberal" political position;

Harry describes himself as a writer;

Joe describes himself as a writer;

THEREFORE

Joe and Harry are the same.

The reason I mention this, apart from my fondness for identifying sloppy
thinking, is that Mr. Krause is (IMO) one of the more unpleasant and disruptive
participants in rec.boats. I find any attempt to tie me to anyone behaving as
he does to be, frankly, insulting.

Besides: you have no idea what (if any) political persuasions I might hold.

Joe Parsons



What a nice welcome back after my roadtrip (well, planetrip and
roadtrip) to an even more frigid part of the country!

So, Joe, are you "this" Joe Parsons:


Subject: 11) Who is Joe Parsons, anyway??
From: Chris LIEthiser nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Let me see if I have this straight: you search the Usenet archives on Google and
find something an individual who cowers behind myriad sockpuppets and 'nyms
wrote about me.

Evidently, you are content to accept that screed of personal attacks from that
anonymous person as being somehow factual.

(continued, below)

Date: 7/31/03 4:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: p2ajivgaef9kng3kqrq7agn76mign099p8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]


11) Who is Joe Parsons, anyway??

Joe Parsons is a writer living in the San Francisco Bay area. As of this
writing, he is producing
erotic audio dramas for release near the end of the year (1994). Since
as a
writer he is just one
step away from being unemployed, he spends a lot of time sailing "Good
Faith"
out of Berkeley,
California.


There's a sleezebag goes by the name of Joe Parsons trolling ASAD, a
mental
health support group for those with neurological differences causing them
deficits of attention, who writes and posts a ton of propaganda to ASAD
depicting persons with deficits of attention as pathetic, disturbed,
disabled
losers, needing heavy duty drugging, research shows doesn't help them
perform any better, only makes them more complaint and pliable for the
psychopathic owners of businesses in the flourishing sex industry
recruiting
those all drugged up owing to damage done them by people believe horse
manure
people like Parsons manufactures.

Is the Joe Parsons producing the porn, one and the same Joe Parsons
writing
and posting the ton of propaganda to the attention deficit NG,
depicting those
with deficits of attention as pathetic, disturbed, worthless losers
in need
of drugging up, harmful to them, but making them more compliant and
pliable
for exploitation by psychopaths and porn producers?

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Or would you be some other unctuous rectal fissure who goes by the name
of Joe Parsons? You know, the kind of fellow Ian Maclaren wrote about in
Kate Carnegie: "A certain class of smug, self-contented, unctuous men."

You know, In the years I have been involved in rec.boats I have taken pains to
be courteous and respectful to others. It's true that, being human, I can be
provoked, but those instances--even in the increasingly nasty environment of
rec.boats--are rare. It's also true that I tend to point out logical flaws in
arguments--call it a hobby--but I generally try to do so in a way that is
constructive and polite.

You, on the other hand, politics aside, are, as I described you, typically a
"flagrantly rude participant" in rec.boats. Anyone who has read this newsgroup
beyond a couple of days and has seen your posts would have to concur. Even many
of who espouse views similar to yours will agree with that assessment.

I find it ironic that you have no idea what (if any) political views I might
have; for all you know, I could be to the left of Fidel Castro. Personally, I
think your conduct here is an embarrassment to anyone who holds views similar to
yours. I think your relentlessly hostile and belligerent behavior here may well
drive people *away* from your way of thinking.

It's a cowardly argument as well, Mr. Krause: where I characterize you
(accurately, I think) as being "flagrantly rude" here, you search the archives
for accusations and personal smears against me, then post that screed from an
arguably disturbed person as though it had some scintilla of truth.

But you know what?

Anyone reading your mean-spirited response is likely to see it for what it is:
the impotent mumbling of a deeply unhappy and angry man who, lacking an
argument, lashes out at anyone within reach--but bloodies and soils himself in
the process.

I hope a time comes when you can find some measure of peace for yourself.

Joe Parsons