My position at work requires that I be a union member, which does not
please me too much. Our union rep was waking around today after a meeting
handing out some little tchotchkes, including a ballpoint pen with the
union logo on it. Like everything else the union buys, it is union made
and proudly emblazoned with the logo of the union who produced it. As I
was taking some notes, I noted that the pen would write a few inches then
stop, write a few more inches, then stop again. I don't think our union
rep was too happy when I commented, "This pen is just like the average
union worker. It only works half the time."

Dan

--
Rosencrantz: What a shambles! We're just not getting anywhere! Not even England.
And I don't believe in it anyway.
Guildenstern: In what?
Rosencrantz: England.
Guildenstern: Just a conspiracy of cartographers, you mean?

-- Tom Stoppard, "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead"

What you forgot to consider......it was some money grubbing manager who
ordered the cheap ink refills rather than quality ones to save a penny per
pen.

Can a manager of the union be a union member?


"Don White" wrote in message
...
What you forgot to consider......it was some money grubbing manager who
ordered the cheap ink refills rather than quality ones to save a penny per
pen.

We will have to ask krause,,,


If we can trust that his answer will not be another one of his lies,,

He has belonged to unions his whole working career, he has bitten the hand
that has fed him his whole working career. He will know the answer.

Of course krause is a liar and his answers are all suspect.

I particularly will mention his lie of yesterday,,

lets have a look

""''''
'''''''''''I've never called Tuuu,,,,k's ISP.

Further, the standard way to file a complaint about "spoofing" is to
submit one of the offending posts with complete headers. Anyone who
looks at the headers of Tuuu,,,,k's posts will see the address of his
news posting server and the name of his ISP. Both are different from
mine. Tuuu,,,,k does spoof my online name ID.

And, further, there would be no reason for me to convince an ISP that
many of Tuuu,,,,k's posts *were* threatening towards me. His posts speak
for themselves.'''''''''




lol,,, krause,, point blank lie


Turns out you were trying to find out where I live,, lol,,, ouch,,, you were
trying to find out my name,, lol,, ,ha ha oooo my,,, krause,,, nice try,,,
but you failed again,, sound familiar?? Almost like marriage huh krause,,,,
almost like rearing children huh krause???
OOOOOpppps,,, Am I allowed to say that krause??? Did my IP provider say that
that was unacceptable??? lol,,








"Dr. Karen Grear MD, PHD" wrote in message
...
Can a manager of the union be a union member?


"Don White" wrote in message
...
What you forgot to consider......it was some money grubbing manager who
ordered the cheap ink refills rather than quality ones to save a penny
per
pen.

Marshall Banana wrote:
My position at work requires that I be a union member, which does not
please a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=me%20too"
onmouseover="window.status='me too'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"me too/a much. Our union
rep was waking around today after a meeting
handing out some little tchotchkes, including a ballpoint pen with
the
union logo on it. Like everything else the union buys, it is union
made
and proudly emblazoned with the logo of the union who produced it.
As I
was taking some notes, I noted that the pen would write a few inches
then
stop, write a few more inches, then stop again. I don't think our
union
rep was too happy when I commented, "This pen is just like the
average
union worker. It only works half the time."

You should quit your job immediately if you don't like unions. You
could go work somewhere else for less money than you are worth.

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Marshall Banana wrote:
My position at work requires that I be a union member, which does not
please a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=me%20too"
onmouseover="window.status='me too'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"me too/a much. Our union
rep was waking around today after a meeting
handing out some little tchotchkes, including a ballpoint pen with
the
union logo on it. Like everything else the union buys, it is union
made
and proudly emblazoned with the logo of the union who produced it.
As I
was taking some notes, I noted that the pen would write a few inches
then
stop, write a few more inches, then stop again. I don't think our
union
rep was too happy when I commented, "This pen is just like the
average
union worker. It only works half the time."

You should quit your job immediately if you don't like unions. You
could go work somewhere else for less money than you are worth.


Only union jobs pay folks a decent wage? I guess somewhere close to 90% of
workers in the US are underpaid then.

And why is union membership declining?

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 08:04:47 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


Only union jobs pay folks a decent wage? I guess somewhere close to 90% of
workers in the US are underpaid then.

I'm guessing your overpaid, whatever you do, union or not.

And why is union membership declining?

Because manufacturing is decling. No need for unions for the burger
flippers that are the new manufacturing base.

bb

And why is union membership declining?


Because manufacturing is decling. No need for unions for the burger
flippers that are the new manufacturing base.

*****************

And because many of the inequities and injustices of 100 years ago have
been corrected, by unions.

Even folks who despise unions and who, like most of us, work in
non-union shops, would be reluctant to give up the working conditions
achieved by union agitation, strike, sacrifice, and commitment over the
years. We take 40 hour weeks (with extra pay for overtime), sick leave,
paid vacation, paid holidays, health insurance, subsistence or better
retirement upon reaching "old age", etc for granted- but few of these
"perks" existed before unions pressured employers to make them a normal
part of compensation.

There are some corrupt unions and some unreasonable union demands, just
as there are some corrupt employers or those willing to make
unreasonable demands.

Collective bargaining gives the worker more negotiating power to try
and achieve an equitable deal from the employer. Just as employers form
"associations" to set/negotiate wages for an entire
industry.....(meaning, "no point quitting XYZ Widget to look for a
better deal at ABC, everybody pays the same low wage")........workers
need the ability to voluntarily form and/or join associations to
achieve a bit of leverage on their side of the negotiation.

A responsible employer offering a reasonable and competitive
compensation plan, a safe working environment, and other progressive
working conditions has little reason to fear that union organizers will
make much of an inroad in his shop.

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Marshall Banana wrote:
My position at work requires that I be a union member, which does
not
please a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=me%20too"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=me%20too"
onmouseover="window.status='me too'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"me too/a'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"me too/a much. Our
union
rep was waking around today after a meeting
handing out some little tchotchkes, including a ballpoint pen with
the
union logo on it. Like everything else the union buys, it is
union
made
and proudly emblazoned with the logo of the union who produced it.
As I
was taking some notes, I noted that the pen would write a few
inches
then
stop, write a few more inches, then stop again. I don't think our
union
rep was too happy when I commented, "This pen is just like the
average
union worker. It only works half the time."

You should quit your job immediately if you don't like unions. You
could go work somewhere else for less money than you are worth.


Only union jobs pay folks a decent wage?

Where did I say that? Learn to read, please.

I guess somewhere close to 90% of
workers in the US are underpaid then.

Hmm, I DO know that there are many, many people underpaid. Ask them.

And why is union membership declining?

The right wing whining makes people believe that unions are bad....
You do realize that before unions, working conditions were horrible,
kids as young as 7 or 8 were forced to work 14 hour days, or more?
There were no safety measures.

On 9 Feb 2005 06:31:57 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Marshall Banana wrote:
My position at work requires that I be a union member, which does
not
please a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=me%20too"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=me%20too"
onmouseover="window.status='me too'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"me too/a'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"me too/a much. Our
union
rep was waking around today after a meeting
handing out some little tchotchkes, including a ballpoint pen with
the
union logo on it. Like everything else the union buys, it is
union
made
and proudly emblazoned with the logo of the union who produced it.
As I
was taking some notes, I noted that the pen would write a few
inches
then
stop, write a few more inches, then stop again. I don't think our
union
rep was too happy when I commented, "This pen is just like the
average
union worker. It only works half the time."

You should quit your job immediately if you don't like unions. You
could go work somewhere else for less money than you are worth.


Only union jobs pay folks a decent wage?

Where did I say that? Learn to read, please.

I guess somewhere close to 90% of
workers in the US are underpaid then.

Hmm, I DO know that there are many, many people underpaid. Ask them.

And why is union membership declining?

The right wing whining makes people believe that unions are bad....
You do realize that before unions, working conditions were horrible,
kids as young as 7 or 8 were forced to work 14 hour days, or more?
There were no safety measures.

Given your expertise with the English language, this will not be a challenge:

What Do You Call Santa's Helpers?

Subordinate Clauses

Mr. Krause can definitely help with that one.


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes