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Ellen MacArthur has smashed the world record for a solo
circumnavigation, finishing in under 71 days 13 hours.
The previous record holder Francis Joyon took 72 days 22 hours 54 mins.

The BBC yesterday devoted half its time to this event. I doubt any US
news program mentioned it at all. Imoressive. That boat really moves.

On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 08:41:30 -0500, DSK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

Most of these solo types are very focused and competitive. From what
I've read, Amelia Earhart was much the same way.

Agreed. A polite way of saying she's an asshole?

No - not at all. We have some friends who are ultra marathoners and
one of my kids is a tri-athelete. Their whole perspective on what's
important changes while training and racing.

But Ellen and Amelia have made really outstanding accomplishments in
fields occupied by self-driven obsessives (assholes), so I think they'd
probably stand above most in that ranking. I don't know about Amelia
Earhart, but Ellen is at least polite and well-spoken (and very very
focussed)

Good - that's a plus then.

Agreed. A polite way of saying she's an a**h***?



Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
No - not at all. We have some friends who are ultra marathoners and
one of my kids is a tri-athelete. Their whole perspective on what's
important changes while training and racing.


I'd agree that some people manage to be focussed, self-directed, and
intensely competitive without quite being full-fledged a**h***s, but
most of the times such priorities as curtesy, social ritual, attention
to the wants & needs of others, etc etc fade away... and guess what you
have left...

Of course, this kind of person is also a super-achiever... as Ellen M
certainly is. This is the kind of person you want to have if the goal is
getting things done. I think this is the origin of the term "Type-A
personality."

The problem is that a lot of people have all the negative
characteristics and few of the positive, and are not even plus-scale
achievers.

DSK

On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 08:47:03 -0500, DSK wrote:

Gogarty wrote:
Unless you get BBC News you would never know it.

Well, those who listen to NPR ("liberal mouthpiece radio" according to
some) get a nice BBC account of the world.

... The Beeb gave about half
its evening news yesterday to this and it was very, very interesting.
That boat really moves!

Heck yeah!
It's an astonishing mix of technology & skill. Hard to say how much
faster these types of boats can get.

... But so far as I know, there was not a word on any
other news program or channel. Haven't checked this morning's paper yet
but if there is more than a short paragraph I will be surprised.


The U.S. pretty much ignores the sport of sailing. Even the America's
Cup barely gets a small blip in the popular media. I don't know why, in
many places it's very popular.


One word: NASCAR

Dave

On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 08:41:30 -0500, DSK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Exactly. My wife has girlfriends. So do my daughters. And my boys.


Yeah, whatever.


Actually, from what I've read and seen of Ellen MacArthur she is totally
and completely focused on sailing. She is so intensely competitive that
IMHO she'd be a very uncomfortable person to have a relationship with...
although I would like to sail with her as a learning experience.


Most of these solo types are very focused and competitive. From what
I've read, Amelia Earhart was much the same way.


Agreed. A polite way of saying she's an asshole?

Why would you consider someone who drives themselves hard to be an
asshole?

That's a behavior that should be emulated, not denigrated.



But Ellen and Amelia have made really outstanding accomplishments in
fields occupied by self-driven obsessives (assholes), so I think they'd
probably stand above most in that ranking. I don't know about Amelia
Earhart, but Ellen is at least polite and well-spoken (and very very
focussed)

Good for her - I'm glad she accomplished something spectacular.


Me too. She deserves the record.

Those who work hard, get the rewards.


Dave

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 09:33:33 -0500, "Dr. Karen Grear MD, PHD"
wrote:

Harry,
Please be nice or I won't let you go out in the Jon Boat to fish for
sunfish.


"hkrause" wrote in message
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Billy wrote:


:-)


Carry on.


Isn't it amazing that there are people in this newsgroup who are so
unhappy with themselves that they pretend to be me? :}

Obsessed rectal fissures, every one of them. But that's their problem, not
mine.


Was that post from the *real* Harry, or one of the fakes?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:06:40 -0500, Dave Hall
wrote:

On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 08:47:03 -0500, DSK wrote:

Gogarty wrote:
Unless you get BBC News you would never know it.

Well, those who listen to NPR ("liberal mouthpiece radio" according to
some) get a nice BBC account of the world.

... The Beeb gave about half
its evening news yesterday to this and it was very, very interesting.
That boat really moves!

Heck yeah!
It's an astonishing mix of technology & skill. Hard to say how much
faster these types of boats can get.

... But so far as I know, there was not a word on any
other news program or channel. Haven't checked this morning's paper yet
but if there is more than a short paragraph I will be surprised.


The U.S. pretty much ignores the sport of sailing. Even the America's
Cup barely gets a small blip in the popular media. I don't know why, in
many places it's very popular.

One word: NASCAR

NASCAR is an acronym. :)

Later,

Tom

Dave Hall wrote:
One word: NASCAR


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
NASCAR is an acronym.

Dave said more than he thinks he did.



DSK

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:24:00 +0000, Chris Newport
wrote:


Ellen MacArthur has smashed the world record for a solo
circumnavigation, finishing in under 71 days 13 hours.
The previous record holder Francis Joyon took 72 days 22 hours 54 mins.

Aged 28, in a trimaran no less, and no boyfriend on hand to welcome
her back.

Brian W

krause

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"hkrause" wrote in message
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Billy wrote:


:-)


Carry on.


Isn't it amazing that there are people in this newsgroup who are so
unhappy with themselves that they pretend to be me? :}

Obsessed rectal fissures, every one of them. But that's their problem, not
mine.