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No, fool. That post was prior to this one. This one is about
your ignorant claims that because a poor person in the US may
not be able to get to the doctor right away, then they are
'waiting' for treatment. I pointed out that it wasn't the
convenience of the system that is making them wait, as in
Canada, but their own. You then proceeded to claim that NO one
is waiting for treatment in Canada. Youlied then, and you are
lying now about your lie. You have already admitted that this
was in error. So, why not move on and refute that people are
dying in these wait lines that you now agree too.


Rick,

Is it your position that Americans don't die while waiting for
health care, because of the convenience of the U.S. healthcare
system?

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Another mind-numbed jingoistic chest-thumper?
No. I have stated that the US system has many many faults.
My entry into this 'discussion' was prompted by the deliberate
lies that kman made about no one dying while waiting for
treatment in Canada. I have made no claims about any system
being better, or worse than any other.



If healthcare is convenient, yet unaffordable, is it still not
worthless?

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I don't know anyone that doesn't get healthcare, so I guess
you'l, have to ask someone else.
Again, I have not promoted, or defended any health care system
over any other.



Mark



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Rick,

Is it your position that Americans don't die while waiting for health
care, because of the convenience of the U.S. healthcare system?

======================
Another mind-numbed jingoistic chest-thumper?


Please enlighten me! Where exactly does jingoism come into play in my
question?

No. I have stated that the US system has many many faults.
My entry into this 'discussion' was prompted by the deliberate lies that
kman made about no one dying while waiting for treatment in Canada.


KMAN has stated on numerous occasions that he didn't assert that "no one
[is] dying while waiting for treatment in Canada."


If healthcare is convenient, yet unaffordable, is it still not worthless?

=====================
I don't know anyone that doesn't get healthcare, so I guess you'l, have to
ask someone else.


You don't have to know anyone, who does or doesn't get healthcare to answer
the question I asked.

Mark


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"rick" wrote in message
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Rick,

Is it your position that Americans don't die while waiting
for health
care, because of the convenience of the U.S. healthcare
system?

======================
Another mind-numbed jingoistic chest-thumper?


Please enlighten me! Where exactly does jingoism come into
play in my
question?

No. I have stated that the US system has many many faults.
My entry into this 'discussion' was prompted by the deliberate
lies that
kman made about no one dying while waiting for treatment in
Canada.


KMAN has stated on numerous occasions that he didn't assert
that "no one
[is] dying while waiting for treatment in Canada."

=====================
No, that isn't what his latest assertion have been all about. I
suggest you read with a little more comprehension. He has been
asserting that he never claimed that no one is WAITING for
treatment in Canada. That was his second lie. His first one,
and one that he still hasn't retracted was that nobody dies while
waiting for treatment in Canada. maybe you can get him to admit
he lied about that too. Good luck though...




If healthcare is convenient, yet unaffordable, is it still
not worthless?

=====================
I don't know anyone that doesn't get healthcare, so I guess
you'l, have to
ask someone else.


You don't have to know anyone, who does or doesn't get
healthcare to answer the question I asked.

============================
Why? That wasn't in the discussion. It is but yet another
strawman to avoid the original posts that proved makn was, and is
lying. That you have to focus on other systems says you don't
have alot to defend in the Canadian system. If you could read
for comprehesion, I have stated in this thread several times that
the US system, as with many systems around the world have serious
problems. No where have I defended it. Now, if you would like
to discuss the lies presented here, go right ahead, but the
deversions aren't working...



Mark




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Another mind-numbed jingoistic chest-thumper?


Please enlighten me! Where exactly does jingoism come into play in my
question?


You never addressed the above, why not?

No. I have stated that the US system has many many faults.
My entry into this 'discussion' was prompted by the deliberate lies that
kman made about no one dying while waiting for treatment in Canada.


KMAN has stated on numerous occasions that he didn't assert that "no one
[is] dying while waiting for treatment in Canada."

=====================
No, that isn't what his latest assertion have been all about. I suggest
you read with a little more comprehension. He has been asserting that he
never claimed that no one is WAITING for treatment in Canada. That was
his second lie. His first one, and one that he still hasn't retracted was
that nobody dies while waiting for treatment in Canada. maybe you can get
him to admit he lied about that too. Good luck though...


Please direct me to the thread and I will address his "lies," as you call
them.


Why?


Because I am not arguing anyones point. I merely asked a question that you
find impossible to answer.

That wasn't in the discussion. It is but yet another strawman to avoid the
original posts that proved makn was, and is lying. That you have to focus
on other systems says you don't have alot to defend in the Canadian system.
If you could read for comprehesion, I have stated in this thread several
times that the US system, as with many systems around the world have
serious problems. No where have I defended it. Now, if you would like to
discuss the lies presented here, go right ahead, but the deversions aren't
working...


Are you seeing Boogymen under you bed?

Mark



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"rick" wrote in message
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Another mind-numbed jingoistic chest-thumper?

Please enlighten me! Where exactly does jingoism come into
play in my
question?


You never addressed the above, why not?

No. I have stated that the US system has many many faults.
My entry into this 'discussion' was prompted by the
deliberate lies that
kman made about no one dying while waiting for treatment in
Canada.

KMAN has stated on numerous occasions that he didn't assert
that "no one
[is] dying while waiting for treatment in Canada."

=====================
No, that isn't what his latest assertion have been all about.
I suggest you read with a little more comprehension. He has
been asserting that he never claimed that no one is WAITING
for treatment in Canada. That was his second lie. His first
one, and one that he still hasn't retracted was that nobody
dies while waiting for treatment in Canada. maybe you can get
him to admit he lied about that too. Good luck though...


Please direct me to the thread and I will address his "lies,"
as you call them.

========================
You're in the thread.




Why?


Because I am not arguing anyones point. I merely asked a
question that you find impossible to answer.

=================
No, I don't.


That wasn't in the discussion. It is but yet another strawman
to avoid the original posts that proved makn was, and is lying.
That you have to focus on other systems says you don't have
alot to defend in the Canadian system. If you could read for
comprehesion, I have stated in this thread several times that
the US system, as with many systems around the world have
serious problems. No where have I defended it. Now, if you
would like to discuss the lies presented here, go right ahead,
but the deversions aren't working...


Are you seeing Boogymen under you bed?

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Why, are you? Projecting your problems of comprehension?



Mark







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"rick" wrote in message
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Please enlighten me! Where exactly does jingoism come into play in my
question?


You never addressed the above, why not?


You ought not use words that you aren't familiar with. It make you look
uneducated.

Mark


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"bearsbuddy" wrote in message
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"rick" wrote in message
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Please enlighten me! Where exactly does jingoism come into
play in my
question?

You never addressed the above, why not?


You ought not use words that you aren't familiar with. It make
you look uneducated.

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LOL I see you are just as dishonest in your snipping, eh? Looks
to me like you cannot discuss what I said, so why bother with
yours? You can pretend to be asking a real question, but since
you have snipped out everything around it, without annotating
your snips, it just makes you look foolish and dishonest.





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"bearsbuddy" wrote in message
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"rick" wrote in message
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"Mark H. Bowen" wrote in
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Rick,

Is it your position that Americans don't die while waiting
for health
care, because of the convenience of the U.S. healthcare
system?
======================
Another mind-numbed jingoistic chest-thumper?


Please enlighten me! Where exactly does jingoism come into
play in my
question?

No. I have stated that the US system has many many faults.
My entry into this 'discussion' was prompted by the deliberate
lies that
kman made about no one dying while waiting for treatment in
Canada.


KMAN has stated on numerous occasions that he didn't assert
that "no one
[is] dying while waiting for treatment in Canada."

=====================
No, that isn't what his latest assertion have been all about. I
suggest you read with a little more comprehension. He has been
asserting that he never claimed that no one is WAITING for
treatment in Canada.


Which is correct. I never did. The only quote you have posted from me was
made in response to your interpretation of a story about people in
Newfoundland waiting for a specific type of test while under a doctor's
care. Whether my interpretation of that story is correct or not, we know
what it does not say: that no one in Canada is waiting for treatment. Since
it is obvious that everyone in every health care system has to wait for
treatment (that's why they have waiting rooms) I neither said, nor believe,
that no one in Canada is waiting.

You know I never said any such thing. You are making a deliberate false
accusation, and you are a scumbag and coward for continuing to do so.



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"KMAN" wrote in message
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et, rick at
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"bearsbuddy" wrote in message
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"rick" wrote in message
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"Mark H. Bowen" wrote in
message
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Rick,

Is it your position that Americans don't die while waiting
for health
care, because of the convenience of the U.S. healthcare
system?
======================
Another mind-numbed jingoistic chest-thumper?

Please enlighten me! Where exactly does jingoism come into
play in my
question?

No. I have stated that the US system has many many faults.
My entry into this 'discussion' was prompted by the
deliberate
lies that
kman made about no one dying while waiting for treatment in
Canada.

KMAN has stated on numerous occasions that he didn't assert
that "no one
[is] dying while waiting for treatment in Canada."

=====================
No, that isn't what his latest assertion have been all about.
I
suggest you read with a little more comprehension. He has
been
asserting that he never claimed that no one is WAITING for
treatment in Canada.


Which is correct. I never did. The only quote you have posted
from me was
made in response to your interpretation of a story about people
in
Newfoundland waiting for a specific type of test while under a
doctor's
care.

=======================
No fool, you've been shown that your reply was not when I posted
about nfld waiting. You posted your lie while we where
discussiong the waiting briought on by the conveninece of the
opatient vs the 'convenience' of the health system.


Whether my interpretation of that story is correct or not, we
know
what it does not say: that no one in Canada is waiting for
treatment. Since
it is obvious that everyone in every health care system has to
wait for
treatment (that's why they have waiting rooms) I neither said,
nor believe,
that no one in Canada is waiting.

You know I never said any such thing. You are making a
deliberate false
accusation, and you are a scumbag and coward for continuing to
do so.

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You should know all about being those things, liarman...







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snip continuing boring crud

my interpretation of that story is correct or not, we know
what it does not say: that no one in Canada is waiting for treatment.
Since
it is obvious that everyone in every health care system has to wait for
treatment (that's why they have waiting rooms) I neither said, nor
believe,
that no one in Canada is waiting.

You know I never said any such thing. You are making a deliberate false
accusation, and you are a scumbag and coward for continuing to do so.

==================
You should know all about being those things


Only what I have learned from watching you, as you continue in our lies and
cowardice.




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