"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article t,
rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:16 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:49 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
t,
rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 1:40 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
t,
rick at
wrote on 3/4/05 10:23 PM:


snip...

I understand what you said! The rest of the world
understands
what you
said! The only one who will not accept what you meant,
and
modified,
and clarified 25 times, is rick, and he may never
choose
to
acknowledge
your first apology,
========================
LOL What apology was that? I never saw anything
nearing
an
apology.

That's because you are too busy being a supreme scumbag
and
showing what a
coward you are for refusing to apologize for your
deliberate
false
accusations.
======================
No foll, it's because you weren't man enought o post it to
me,
liarman. You buried it in a post to TnT, and even then
was
really only apologizing for your ignorant 'wording.'
You are the dishonest one here, liarman...

Sorry you didn't care for the apology.
==============
Because as I see it, it wasn't an apology to me.

Yes, it was.
=====================
LOL Only in your delusional, willfully ignorant brain,
liarman.

You are the only one who is confused about it.

And it was not an apology for deliberate wrongdoing, it was
an
apology
because that was what I offered as an outcome if you could
meet
the burdern
of proof in response to a question.
==========================
See, you did not apologize as you promised.

Yes, I did.

snip tired old crap

You, on the other hand, have made a deliberate false
accusation. You claimed
that I said no one in Canada ever waits for treatment. I
never
said that.
You are a liar and a scumbag and a coward for continuing to
insist that I
did.
=====================
It has been shown that you did fool, many times now. that you
have now admitted your lie has already been determined.

You showed part of a quote where I said "No one is waiting for
treatment"
which was a response to your babble about a particular group of
people in
Newfoundland.
====================
Keep trying to tell yourself that liarman. maybe someday even
you will believe it. That reply was not at the time I posted the
link. The discussion was all about waiting for treatment in
Canada, ou claimed then that that did not happen. You have
since changed your tune.



Even the most twisted interpretation could not see that quote
as evidence
that I stated or believe that no one in Canada waits for
treatment. It is
only your deliberate dishonesty as a liar and a scumbag that
makes it
possible for you to insist upon what you know to be untrue.
=====================
It has been shown that you did fool, many times now. that you
have now admitted your lie has already been determined. Now, how
about the rest of your lies about wait lists, liarman?

snip tired old crap

in article , rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 11:04 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article t,
rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:16 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:49 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
t,
rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 1:40 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
t,
rick at
wrote on 3/4/05 10:23 PM:


snip...

I understand what you said! The rest of the world
understands
what you
said! The only one who will not accept what you meant,
and
modified,
and clarified 25 times, is rick, and he may never
choose
to
acknowledge
your first apology,
========================
LOL What apology was that? I never saw anything
nearing
an
apology.

That's because you are too busy being a supreme scumbag
and
showing what a
coward you are for refusing to apologize for your
deliberate
false
accusations.
======================
No foll, it's because you weren't man enought o post it to
me,
liarman. You buried it in a post to TnT, and even then
was
really only apologizing for your ignorant 'wording.'
You are the dishonest one here, liarman...

Sorry you didn't care for the apology.
==============
Because as I see it, it wasn't an apology to me.

Yes, it was.
=====================
LOL Only in your delusional, willfully ignorant brain,
liarman.

You are the only one who is confused about it.

And it was not an apology for deliberate wrongdoing, it was
an
apology
because that was what I offered as an outcome if you could
meet
the burdern
of proof in response to a question.
==========================
See, you did not apologize as you promised.

Yes, I did.

snip tired old crap

You, on the other hand, have made a deliberate false
accusation. You claimed
that I said no one in Canada ever waits for treatment. I
never
said that.
You are a liar and a scumbag and a coward for continuing to
insist that I
did.
=====================
It has been shown that you did fool, many times now. that you
have now admitted your lie has already been determined.

You showed part of a quote where I said "No one is waiting for
treatment"
which was a response to your babble about a particular group of
people in
Newfoundland.
====================
Keep trying to tell yourself that liarman. maybe someday even
you will believe it. That reply was not at the time I posted the
link. The discussion was all about waiting for treatment in
Canada, ou claimed then that that did not happen. You have
since changed your tune.



Even the most twisted interpretation could not see that quote
as evidence
that I stated or believe that no one in Canada waits for
treatment. It is
only your deliberate dishonesty as a liar and a scumbag that
makes it
possible for you to insist upon what you know to be untrue.
=====================
It has been shown that you did fool, many times now. that you
have now admitted your lie has already been determined. Now, how
about the rest of your lies about wait lists, liarman?

I have not lied about anything.

This is the only reference you have made in support of your false
accusation:

====

in article , KMAN at
wrote on 2/20/05 2:14 PM:

in article t, rick at
wrote on 2/20/05 1:18 PM:

Another strawman, I see. We aren't talking about their
'convenience', we're talking about the convenience of the medical
systam. When that 'poor' person arrives at a medical facility in
need, then yes, I'm saying that they will not wait 2 1/2 years
for treatment.

No one is waiting for treatment. It's about a specific type of scan in a
specific geographic area and the waiting is for non-emergencies.

====

As we've already reviewed a dozen times, in the above I'm responding to your
interpretation of the article about Newfoundland and your assertion that the
people in the story were waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment. Whether you
agree with what I said or not (and what I said is supported by one of the
doctors quoted in the article) clearly I am not making a statement that no
one in Canada ever has to wait for treatment.

This is the only reference you have made to anything I have said on the
subject, and yet you continue to lie about it and insist that I claimed no
one in Canada ever waits for treatment.

Stop being a scumbag and apologize. You know I never said any such thing,
nor do I believe any such thing.

"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article ,
rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 11:04 PM:


snip..

You, on the other hand, have made a deliberate false
accusation. You claimed
that I said no one in Canada ever waits for treatment. I
never
said that.
You are a liar and a scumbag and a coward for continuing to
insist that I
did.
=====================
It has been shown that you did fool, many times now. that
you
have now admitted your lie has already been determined.

You showed part of a quote where I said "No one is waiting
for
treatment"
which was a response to your babble about a particular group
of
people in
Newfoundland.
====================
Keep trying to tell yourself that liarman. maybe someday even
you will believe it. That reply was not at the time I posted
the
link. The discussion was all about waiting for treatment in
Canada, ou claimed then that that did not happen. You have
since changed your tune.



Even the most twisted interpretation could not see that quote
as evidence
that I stated or believe that no one in Canada waits for
treatment. It is
only your deliberate dishonesty as a liar and a scumbag that
makes it
possible for you to insist upon what you know to be untrue.
=====================
It has been shown that you did fool, many times now. that you
have now admitted your lie has already been determined. Now,
how
about the rest of your lies about wait lists, liarman?

I have not lied about anything.
=================
Yes, and you continue to do so. Why is that, liarman? Just
can't help yourself?


This is the only reference you have made in support of your
false
accusation:

====

in article , KMAN at
wrote on 2/20/05 2:14 PM:

in article
t, rick at
wrote on 2/20/05 1:18 PM:

Another strawman, I see. We aren't talking about their
'convenience', we're talking about the convenience of the
medical
systam. When that 'poor' person arrives at a medical facility
in
need, then yes, I'm saying that they will not wait 2 1/2 years
for treatment.

No one is waiting for treatment. It's about a specific type of
scan in a
specific geographic area and the waiting is for
non-emergencies.

====

As we've already reviewed a dozen times, in the above I'm
responding to your
interpretation of the article about Newfoundland and your
assertion that the
people in the story were waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment.
Whether you
agree with what I said or not (and what I said is supported by
one of the
doctors quoted in the article) clearly I am not making a
statement that no
one in Canada ever has to wait for treatment.
======================
No, fool. That post was prior to this one. This one is about
your ignorant claims that because a poor person in the US may not
be able to get to the doctor right away, then they are 'waiting'
for treatment. I pointed out that it wasn't the convenience of
the system that is making them wait, as in Canada, but their own.
You then proceeded to claim that NO one is waiting for treatment
in Canada. Youlied then, and you are lying now about your lie.
You have already admitted that this was in error. So, why not
move on and refute that people are dying in these wait lines that
you now agree too.


This is the only reference you have made to anything I have
said on the
subject, and yet you continue to lie about it and insist that I
claimed no
one in Canada ever waits for treatment.

Stop being a scumbag and apologize. You know I never said any
such thing,
nor do I believe any such thing.
================
No need, you lied and have retracked your lie. I have accepted
that. Now, talk about those that are dying while waiting,
liarman.

"rick" wrote in message
k.net...

snip boring old crap

Stop being a scumbag and apologize. You know I never said any such thing,
nor do I believe any such thing.
================
No need, you lied and have retracked your lie. I have accepted that.

I have not lied about anything.

This is the only reference you have made in support of your false
accusation:

====

in article , KMAN at
wrote on 2/20/05 2:14 PM:

in article t, rick at
wrote on 2/20/05 1:18 PM:

Another strawman, I see. We aren't talking about their
'convenience', we're talking about the convenience of the medical
systam. When that 'poor' person arrives at a medical facility in
need, then yes, I'm saying that they will not wait 2 1/2 years
for treatment.

No one is waiting for treatment. It's about a specific type of scan in a
specific geographic area and the waiting is for non-emergencies.

====

As we've already reviewed a dozen times, in the above I'm responding to your
interpretation of the article about Newfoundland and your assertion that the
people in the story were waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment. Whether you
agree with what I said or not (and what I said is supported by one of the
doctors quoted in the article) clearly I am not making a statement that no
one in Canada ever has to wait for treatment.

This is the only reference you have made to anything I have said on the
subject, and yet you continue to lie about it and insist that I claimed no
one in Canada ever waits for treatment.

Stop being a scumbag and apologize. You know I never said any such thing,
nor do I believe any such thing.

"KMAN" wrote in message
.. .

"rick" wrote in message
k.net...

snip boring old crap
restore snip that you would like to go away...
I am not making a
statement that no
one in Canada ever has to wait for treatment.
======================
No, fool. That post was prior to this one. This one is about
your ignorant claims that because a poor person in the US may not
be able to get to the doctor right away, then they are 'waiting'
for treatment. I pointed out that it wasn't the convenience of
the system that is making them wait, as in Canada, but their own.
You then proceeded to claim that NO one is waiting for treatment
in Canada. Youlied then, and you are lying now about your lie.
You have already admitted that this was in error. So, why not
move on and refute that people are dying in these wait lines that
you now agree too.


This is the only reference you have made to anything I have
said on the
subject, and yet you continue to lie about it and insist that I
claimed no
one in Canada ever waits for treatment.

Stop being a scumbag and apologize. You know I never said any
such thing,
nor do I believe any such thing.
========================
No need for me to. You made the statement, and have now admitted
it was wrong. I have accepted that you made a mistake and moved
on. You however seem to be stuck on the small details while
ignoring the fcat that people still die waiting for treatment.
end restore...



Stop being a scumbag and apologize. You know I never said any
such thing,
nor do I believe any such thing.
================
No need, you lied and have retracked your lie. I have
accepted that.

I have not lied about anything.

This is the only reference you have made in support of your
false
accusation:

====

in article , KMAN at
wrote on 2/20/05 2:14 PM:

in article
t, rick at
wrote on 2/20/05 1:18 PM:

Another strawman, I see. We aren't talking about their
'convenience', we're talking about the convenience of the
medical
systam. When that 'poor' person arrives at a medical facility
in
need, then yes, I'm saying that they will not wait 2 1/2 years
for treatment.

No one is waiting for treatment. It's about a specific type of
scan in a
specific geographic area and the waiting is for
non-emergencies.

====

As we've already reviewed a dozen times, in the above I'm
responding to your
interpretation of the article about Newfoundland and your
assertion that the
people in the story were waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment.
Whether you
agree with what I said or not (and what I said is supported by
one of the
doctors quoted in the article) clearly I am not making a
statement that no
one in Canada ever has to wait for treatment.

This is the only reference you have made to anything I have
said on the
subject, and yet you continue to lie about it and insist that I
claimed no
one in Canada ever waits for treatment.

Stop being a scumbag and apologize. You know I never said any
such thing,
nor do I believe any such thing.

"rick" wrote in message
ink.net...

"KMAN" wrote in message
.. .

"rick" wrote in message
k.net...

snip boring old crap
restore snip that you would like to go away...
I am not making a
statement that no
one in Canada ever has to wait for treatment.
======================
No, fool. That post was prior to this one. This one is about
your ignorant claims that because a poor person in the US may not
be able to get to the doctor right away, then they are 'waiting'
for treatment.

Or if they are denied treatment completely.

"KMAN" wrote in message
. ..

"rick" wrote in message
ink.net...

"KMAN" wrote in message
.. .

"rick" wrote in message
k.net...

snip boring old crap
restore snip that you would like to go away...
I am not making a
statement that no
one in Canada ever has to wait for treatment.
======================
No, fool. That post was prior to this one. This one is about
your ignorant claims that because a poor person in the US may
not
be able to get to the doctor right away, then they are
'waiting'
for treatment.

Or if they are denied treatment completely.
======================
Nice strawman, liarman. All you have left is to devert attention
from your lies?
maybe they are, maybr=e they aren't. Problem for you is that
that wasn't the discussion. The discussion was YOUR lies about
nobody dieing from waiting in Canada. Why is it that you seem to
be unable to discuss your lies and willful ignorance?

"rick" wrote in message news:xYWWd.3533

No, fool. That post was prior to this one. This one is about your
ignorant claims that because a poor person in the US may not be able to
get to the doctor right away, then they are 'waiting' for treatment. I
pointed out that it wasn't the convenience of the system that is making
them wait, as in Canada, but their own. You then proceeded to claim that
NO one is waiting for treatment in Canada. Youlied then, and you are
lying now about your lie. You have already admitted that this was in
error. So, why not move on and refute that people are dying in these wait
lines that you now agree too.

Rick,

Is it your position that Americans don't die while waiting for health care,
because of the convenience of the U.S. healthcare system?

If healthcare is convenient, yet unaffordable, is it still not worthless?

Mark

"Mark H. Bowen" wrote in message
.. .

"rick" wrote in message news:xYWWd.3533

No, fool. That post was prior to this one. This one is about
your ignorant claims that because a poor person in the US may
not be able to get to the doctor right away, then they are
'waiting' for treatment. I pointed out that it wasn't the
convenience of the system that is making them wait, as in
Canada, but their own. You then proceeded to claim that NO one
is waiting for treatment in Canada. Youlied then, and you are
lying now about your lie. You have already admitted that this
was in error. So, why not move on and refute that people are
dying in these wait lines that you now agree too.

Rick,

Is it your position that Americans don't die while waiting for
health care, because of the convenience of the U.S. healthcare
system?
======================
Another mind-numbed jingoistic chest-thumper?
No. I have stated that the US system has many many faults.
My entry into this 'discussion' was prompted by the deliberate
lies that kman made about no one dying while waiting for
treatment in Canada. I have made no claims about any system
being better, or worse than any other.



If healthcare is convenient, yet unaffordable, is it still not
worthless?
=====================
I don't know anyone that doesn't get healthcare, so I guess
you'l, have to ask someone else.
Again, I have not promoted, or defended any health care system
over any other.



Mark

"rick" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Mark H. Bowen" wrote in message
.. .
Rick,

Is it your position that Americans don't die while waiting for health
care, because of the convenience of the U.S. healthcare system?
======================
Another mind-numbed jingoistic chest-thumper?

Please enlighten me! Where exactly does jingoism come into play in my
question?

No. I have stated that the US system has many many faults.
My entry into this 'discussion' was prompted by the deliberate lies that
kman made about no one dying while waiting for treatment in Canada.

KMAN has stated on numerous occasions that he didn't assert that "no one
[is] dying while waiting for treatment in Canada."


If healthcare is convenient, yet unaffordable, is it still not worthless?
=====================
I don't know anyone that doesn't get healthcare, so I guess you'l, have to
ask someone else.

You don't have to know anyone, who does or doesn't get healthcare to answer
the question I asked.

Mark