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"KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 3/1/05 5:12 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message . .. "rick" wrote in message k.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article , rick at wrote on 2/28/05 6:49 PM: snip Is there a coroner's report that says Mr X. died because he was waiting? ===================== Read the sites fool. As you know, patient info is not released. There are stories about health care issues in the media all the time. Something as serious as someone dying while waiting for care would definitely make the front page. ================== It has before fool. Never. Prove it. ======================= Yes, fool. Try some researchof you own. You made the claim. I've done it. It hasn't happened, save for your weasel imagination. =================================== OK If you have done the research, then you should be able to refute the facts, eh liar? Still claiming no one waits for treatment in Canada? Still afraid to read the facts, liar? |
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wrote on 3/1/05 10:52 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 3/1/05 5:12 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message . .. "rick" wrote in message k.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article , rick at wrote on 2/28/05 6:49 PM: snip Is there a coroner's report that says Mr X. died because he was waiting? ===================== Read the sites fool. As you know, patient info is not released. There are stories about health care issues in the media all the time. Something as serious as someone dying while waiting for care would definitely make the front page. ================== It has before fool. Never. Prove it. ======================= Yes, fool. Try some researchof you own. You made the claim. I've done it. It hasn't happened, save for your weasel imagination. =================================== OK If you have done the research, then you should be able to refute the facts, eh liar? Still claiming no one waits for treatment in Canada? I never said that. As I've told you more than a dozen times, as with every health care system, people in Canada sometimes have to wait. So. Did you see what I just said? People in Canada sometimes have to wait. In fact, I will guarantee that given it is a snowy night and the roads are slippery, somewhere her in Ottawa someone is sitting in a hospital and waiting for treatment. So. Do you understand that I do not claim that nobody is waiting? Or are you going to continue being a supreme weasel, scumbag, and liar, and keep stating that I claim otherwise? |
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"KMAN" wrote in message ... in article t, rick at wrote on 3/1/05 10:52 PM: snip... Is there a coroner's report that says Mr X. died because he was waiting? ===================== Read the sites fool. As you know, patient info is not released. There are stories about health care issues in the media all the time. Something as serious as someone dying while waiting for care would definitely make the front page. ================== It has before fool. Never. Prove it. ======================= Yes, fool. Try some researchof you own. You made the claim. I've done it. It hasn't happened, save for your weasel imagination. =================================== OK If you have done the research, then you should be able to refute the facts, eh liar? Still claiming no one waits for treatment in Canada? I never said that. ==================== Yes, you did liarman. "...No one is waiting for treatment..." As I've told you more than a dozen times, as with every health care system, people in Canada sometimes have to wait. =========================== That's not what you were claiming until your lies were exposed, liarman... So. Did you see what I just said? People in Canada sometimes have to wait. In fact, I will guarantee that given it is a snowy night and the roads are slippery, somewhere her in Ottawa someone is sitting in a hospital and waiting for treatment. ==================== Nice strawman fool. We aren't talking about waiting rooms, we're discussing waits that cause people their lives. But, if you want to discuss the problems with you hospitals because of your system rationing, then you'll find that people have died because they have been refused admission and treatment. So. Do you understand that I do not claim that nobody is waiting? ====================== Because you lie was exposed, so you now have to lie, and say you never claimed that. Or are you going to continue being a supreme weasel, scumbag, and liar, and keep stating that I claim otherwise? ========================== Yes, because you did. "...No one is waiting for treatment..." 2/20/2005 2:14 |
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"KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 3/1/05 11:32 PM: Still claiming no one waits for treatment in Canada? I never said that. ==================== Yes, you did liarman. "...No one is waiting for treatment..." Just because it is a sentence doesn't mean it is a complete statement. ================== Yes, it does fool. Your next sentence even emphsised what you said in this one, liarman. Example: What do you mean rick is a bit of an idiot, that's not true. He's got to be the biggest idiot on the planet! To paste only the first sentence and then claim that I don't think rick is an idiot would be just as dishonest as what you have been doing with my sentence about waiting. Here is more of the context: ====== As many as 100 children in Newfoundland face 30-month waits for the high-tech scans, said Geoffrey Higgins, clinical chief of diagnostic imaging at the Health Care Corporation of St. John's. While the wait is "less than ideal," he said patients' conditions are being investigated and followed by other medical means, and that anyone needing an emergency scan gets one. ====================== LOL Sure, 2 years into a wait he might really NEED emegency treatment, eh? At that time he goes right to the top of the list. Maybe too late, eh? At the least, he has suffered more than was medically necessary, and at worst is now beyond treatment, or too weak to survive the treatment. You're telling me there aren't poor people in the US in isolated or slum areas where they have a hard time getting a scan at their convenience? Get real. ==================== Another strawman, I see. We aren't talking about their 'convenience', we're talking about the convenience of the medical systam. When that 'poor' person arrives at a medical facility in need, then yes, I'm saying that they will not wait 2 1/2 years for treatment. No one is waiting for treatment. It's about a specific type of scan in a specific geographic area and the waiting is for non-emergencies. ============================ LOL You just made my point for me, liarman. Your first statement is declarative. 'No one is waiting for treatment.' The next sentence just emphasizes it. Her you are making sure that treatment and scans are seperate things, and saying people are witing for those. Unfortunately for you, I have preseneted facts that tell that canadaians are in fact waiting for treatment, and you have now had to try to tap dance your way out of this lie. ===== What I am saying (clearly) is that nobody is waiting 2 1/2 years to get treatment. They get treatment the day they walk into the hospital. What they are waiting for, as the article says, is a specific type of high-tech scan. Note from the above: "While the wait is "less than ideal," he said patients' conditions are being investigated and followed by other medical means, and that anyone needing an emergency scan gets one. Now, let's get back to what you have been saying: rick: kman also claimed that no one in Canada waits for treatment, yet another lie ====================== No, you are lying, liarman. I never made the statement that no one in Canada waits for treatment. =============== Yes, you did, and you've even kindly quoted yourself above, liarman. You owe me an apology. ===================== No, fool, you owe the apology. I have proven that peple wwait for treatment, AND that some die waiting for treatment. I don't expect you're honest enough to admit your lies though, liarman. But I bet you are too weak to do it. ================= No need to. I haven't lied... as I've told you a dozen times (but you are such a scumbag that you keep on lying) there are wait times in every health care system, including Canada. ======================= That's not waht you claimed earlier, until your lies were exposed, liarman. No, I didn't. You owe me an apology. ====================== Yes, you did, and you even provided the quote yourself... In fact, you will recall that you yourself posted an article about people waiting for a specific test in Newfoundland. ======================== Which is where you denied that Candaians are waiting for treatment. You lied then, liarman... As you can see above, clearly I was explaining that those people were not waiting for treatment, they were waiting for a specific type of high tech test. ============================ No fool. You didn't say that the people in the story were not waiting for treatment, you claimed that "NO" candaians are waiting for treatment. When you lie was exposed, you had to change your tune, eh liarman? You owe me an apology. ================ Nope. |
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"rick" wrote in message ink.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 3/1/05 11:32 PM: Still claiming no one waits for treatment in Canada? I never said that. ==================== Yes, you did liarman. "...No one is waiting for treatment..." Just because it is a sentence doesn't mean it is a complete statement. ================== Yes, it does fool. Your next sentence even emphsised what you said in this one, liarman. Example: What do you mean rick is a bit of an idiot, that's not true. He's got to be the biggest idiot on the planet! To paste only the first sentence and then claim that I don't think rick is an idiot would be just as dishonest as what you have been doing with my sentence about waiting. Here is more of the context: ====== As many as 100 children in Newfoundland face 30-month waits for the high-tech scans, said Geoffrey Higgins, clinical chief of diagnostic imaging at the Health Care Corporation of St. John's. While the wait is "less than ideal," he said patients' conditions are being investigated and followed by other medical means, and that anyone needing an emergency scan gets one. ====================== LOL Sure, 2 years into a wait he might really NEED emegency treatment, eh? At that time he goes right to the top of the list. Maybe too late, eh? At the least, he has suffered more than was medically necessary, and at worst is now beyond treatment, or too weak to survive the treatment. You're telling me there aren't poor people in the US in isolated or slum areas where they have a hard time getting a scan at their convenience? Get real. ==================== Another strawman, I see. We aren't talking about their 'convenience', we're talking about the convenience of the medical systam. When that 'poor' person arrives at a medical facility in need, then yes, I'm saying that they will not wait 2 1/2 years for treatment. No one is waiting for treatment. It's about a specific type of scan in a specific geographic area and the waiting is for non-emergencies. ============================ LOL You just made my point for me, liarman. Your first statement is declarative. 'No one is waiting for treatment.' NO ONE IS WAITING FOR TREATMENT - IN THE EXAMPLE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. Stop being such a scumbag. |
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