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in article t, rick at
wrote on 3/1/05 10:52 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article
et, rick at
wrote on 3/1/05 5:12 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
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"rick" wrote in message
k.net...

"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article
, rick at
wrote on 2/28/05 6:49 PM:

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Is there a coroner's report that says Mr X. died because
he
was
waiting?
=====================
Read the sites fool. As you know, patient info is not
released.

There are stories about health care issues in the media all
the time.
Something as serious as someone dying while waiting for
care
would
definitely make the front page.
==================
It has before fool.

Never. Prove it.
=======================
Yes, fool. Try some researchof you own. You made the claim.


I've done it. It hasn't happened, save for your weasel
imagination.

===================================
OK If you have done the research, then you should be able to
refute the facts, eh liar?

Still claiming no one waits for treatment in Canada?


I never said that. As I've told you more than a dozen times, as with every
health care system, people in Canada sometimes have to wait.

So.

Did you see what I just said?

People in Canada sometimes have to wait. In fact, I will guarantee that
given it is a snowy night and the roads are slippery, somewhere her in
Ottawa someone is sitting in a hospital and waiting for treatment.

So.

Do you understand that I do not claim that nobody is waiting?

Or are you going to continue being a supreme weasel, scumbag, and liar, and
keep stating that I claim otherwise?



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"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article t,
rick at
wrote on 3/1/05 10:52 PM:


snip...

Is there a coroner's report that says Mr X. died
because
he
was
waiting?
=====================
Read the sites fool. As you know, patient info is not
released.

There are stories about health care issues in the media
all
the time.
Something as serious as someone dying while waiting for
care
would
definitely make the front page.
==================
It has before fool.

Never. Prove it.
=======================
Yes, fool. Try some researchof you own. You made the
claim.

I've done it. It hasn't happened, save for your weasel
imagination.

===================================
OK If you have done the research, then you should be able to
refute the facts, eh liar?

Still claiming no one waits for treatment in Canada?


I never said that.

====================
Yes, you did liarman.
"...No one is waiting for treatment..."

As I've told you more than a dozen times, as with every
health care system, people in Canada sometimes have to wait.

===========================
That's not what you were claiming until your lies were exposed,
liarman...



So.

Did you see what I just said?

People in Canada sometimes have to wait. In fact, I will
guarantee that
given it is a snowy night and the roads are slippery, somewhere
her in
Ottawa someone is sitting in a hospital and waiting for
treatment.

====================
Nice strawman fool. We aren't talking about waiting rooms, we're
discussing waits that cause people their lives.
But, if you want to discuss the problems with you hospitals
because of your system rationing, then you'll find that people
have died because they have been refused admission and treatment.


So.

Do you understand that I do not claim that nobody is waiting?

======================
Because you lie was exposed, so you now have to lie, and say you
never claimed that.


Or are you going to continue being a supreme weasel, scumbag,
and liar, and
keep stating that I claim otherwise?

==========================
Yes, because you did.
"...No one is waiting for treatment..." 2/20/2005 2:14





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in article et, rick at
wrote on 3/1/05 11:32 PM:

Still claiming no one waits for treatment in Canada?


I never said that.

====================
Yes, you did liarman.
"...No one is waiting for treatment..."


Just because it is a sentence doesn't mean it is a complete statement.

Example:

What do you mean rick is a bit of an idiot, that's not true. He's got to be
the biggest idiot on the planet!

To paste only the first sentence and then claim that I don't think rick is
an idiot would be just as dishonest as what you have been doing with my
sentence about waiting.

Here is more of the context:

======

As many as 100 children in Newfoundland face 30-month waits for
the
high-tech scans, said Geoffrey Higgins, clinical chief of
diagnostic imaging
at the Health Care Corporation of St. John's. While the wait is
"less than
ideal," he said patients' conditions are being investigated and
followed by
other medical means, and that anyone needing an emergency scan
gets one.
======================

LOL Sure, 2 years into a wait he might really NEED emegency
treatment, eh? At that time he goes right to the top of the
list. Maybe too late, eh? At the least, he has suffered more
than was medically necessary, and at worst is now beyond
treatment, or too weak to survive the treatment.


You're telling me there aren't poor people in the US in
isolated or slum
areas where they have a hard time getting a scan at their
convenience? Get
real.
====================

Another strawman, I see. We aren't talking about their
'convenience', we're talking about the convenience of the medical
systam. When that 'poor' person arrives at a medical facility in
need, then yes, I'm saying that they will not wait 2 1/2 years
for treatment.


No one is waiting for treatment. It's about a specific type of scan in a
specific geographic area and the waiting is for non-emergencies.

=====

What I am saying (clearly) is that nobody is waiting 2 1/2 years to get
treatment. They get treatment the day they walk into the hospital. What they
are waiting for, as the article says, is a specific type of high-tech scan.

Note from the above: "While the wait is "less than ideal," he said patients'
conditions are being investigated and followed by other medical means, and
that anyone needing an emergency scan gets one.

Now, let's get back to what you have been saying:

rick: kman also claimed that no one in Canada waits for treatment, yet
another lie

I never made the statement that no one in Canada waits for treatment.

You owe me an apology.

But I bet you are too weak to do it.

as I've told you a dozen times (but you are such a
scumbag that you keep on lying) there are wait times in every
health care
system, including Canada.

=======================
That's not waht you claimed earlier, until your lies were
exposed, liarman.


No, I didn't. You owe me an apology.

In fact, you will recall that you yourself posted
an article about people waiting for a specific test in
Newfoundland.

========================
Which is where you denied that Candaians are waiting for
treatment. You lied then, liarman...


As you can see above, clearly I was explaining that those people were not
waiting for treatment, they were waiting for a specific type of high tech
test.

You owe me an apology.

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