"BCITORGB" wrote in message
oups.com...
Oh well. Perhaps rick caught that post, and it might work for
him. It'd
be good viewing for Scott as well (and all those who live in an
insular
world).
============================
LOL Again, you've yet to find me praising the US system. Maybe
that's what you wish I said so that your own jingoistic blather
wouldn't look quite so outragious. It is amazing that you rely
on 10-15 year old books for your current events, and dely that
your own health care system isn't working for every Canadian
right now! Talk about having your head in the sand, and living
in the past, and I'd say you and kman have the far more narrow
provincial viewpoint....




frtzw906

"rick" wrote in message
ink.net...

"BCITORGB" wrote in message
oups.com...
Oh well. Perhaps rick caught that post, and it might work for him. It'd
be good viewing for Scott as well (and all those who live in an insular
world).
============================
LOL Again, you've yet to find me praising the US system. Maybe that's
what you wish I said so that your own jingoistic blather wouldn't look
quite so outragious. It is amazing that you rely on 10-15 year old books
for your current events, and dely that your own health care system isn't
working for every Canadian right now!

How your position has changed...first it was that people in Canada were
dying in waiting lines, now it is that the system isn't working for every
Canadian.

rick says:
==============
It is amazing that you rely on 10-15 year old books for your current
events
===========================

"rely" on?! what are you on about?!

are historical data of no interest? and you'll note that the dutch
study came out in 2004.

frtzw906

rick says:
=================
Again, you've yet to find me praising the US system.
===================

And who says you do? You've made the point, once, twice, or I don't
know how many times, and I've accepted your assertion.

Why do you keep telling us this?

frtzw906

Wolfgang wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
ups.com...

Wolfgang wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
oups.com...

Near is "near", sort of like is, "is"! TnT

Hm......

You know, I'm beginning to think you're toying with me.

I resent that

Wolfgang

Is that what was going on with the "is, is" thing?

I don't know what that means.

Sorry Wolfgang, I did not mean to toy with you especially if English is
not your mother tongue and you did not understand. I am refering to a
statement made by our recent President Clinton, who when ask a question
regarding the Lewenski affair, defined the meaning of the word -"is, as
is." The whole definition was rediculous. You ask me to define near,
and I thought you were toying with me, so I responded by refering to
the previous situation.

Now in addition to not understanding English, I understand that you may
not be familiar with US geography, to know where Denver is located.
Denver is in the state of Colorado, and the locations you listed are
not near or adjacent to Denver where I live. I would not want to drive
very far, several hundred miles, to get a drink. The Fins most likely
have local pubs where they inbibe, or other locations close to their
homes where they can enjoy their healthful libations.

I begin to understand,

Do you? Hm.......we'll see.

and would certainly understand you resenting it.

Now I hope that I am in fact understanding properly, and I did not
intend to stir up any resentments. If I have yet to understand, please
feel free to inform me for my understanding.

"Would"? Not "do"?

Why don't
you have another drink, matter of fact have one for me as well,

Actually, I don't drink.

and I
am sure you will feel better in the AM.

Better......than.....?

Wolfgang

Actually I don't drink very much, nor advocate that others do so
either. I hope that you are feeling better never the less, and that
there was no insult intended. TnT

"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
oups.com...

Sorry Wolfgang, I did not mean to toy with you especially if English is
not your mother tongue and you did not understand. I am refering to a
statement made by our recent President Clinton, who when ask a question
regarding the Lewenski affair, defined the meaning of the word -"is, as
is." The whole definition was rediculous.

Oh, THAT! Yeah, I know all about that. You, on the other hand, are
evidently entirely clueless. Well, surprise, surprise, surprise!

You ask me to define near,
and I thought you were toying with me,

Follow your instincts. The available evidence suggests they are
considerably more reliable than your intellect.

so I responded by refering to
the previous situation.

Um........I don't know what that means.

Now in addition to not understanding English,

Well, it IS my second language.

I understand that you may
not be familiar with US geography, to know where Denver is located.
Denver is in the state of Colorado, and the locations you listed are
not near or adjacent to Denver where I live.

See, that LOOKS like English!

But, your suggestion is not far off the mark. My familiarity with geography
in general (let alone its multifarious sub-disciplines) is woefully lacking.
I sometimes have a dreadfully hard time distinguishing
between.....oh.....say, Minneapolis and St. Paul, Neenah and Menasha,
Houghton and Hancock, Menominee and Marinette........etc.

As to the question of proximity, I suppose it depends on how you define
"near". Ogden, for example, is closer to Denver than is.......oh, I
dunno......um.....Benares, let's say. But then, Idaho Falls is nearer than
Ogden......to Denver, that is. I really don't know which of
those.....Denver, Ogden, or Idaho Falls, that is......is closest to Benares.
See what I mean about that geographically challenged thingie?

I would not want to drive
very far, several hundred miles, to get a drink.

These days, I'd suggest that the drive back is the more critical concern.
And, please do remember to buckle up, o.k.? After all, it IS our law.

The Fins most likely
have local pubs where they inbibe,

Once again, you have the better of me. While I do retain a smattering of
German, English (for all my deficiencies) is what I do best. If you would
be so kind.......

or other locations close to their
homes where they can enjoy their healthful libations.

One would hope so. Denver (if Mapquest is to be believed) is a long drive
from Alavus.

I begin to understand,

Do you? Hm.......we'll see.

and would certainly understand you resenting it.

Now I hope that I am in fact understanding properly, and I did not
intend to stir up any resentments. If I have yet to understand, please
feel free to inform me for my understanding.

Understood. Um.......well, maybe......sorta.

"Would"? Not "do"?

Why don't
you have another drink, matter of fact have one for me as well,

Actually, I don't drink.

and I
am sure you will feel better in the AM.

Better......than.....?

Wolfgang

Actually I don't drink very much,

You should try it some time

nor advocate that others do so
either.

Nor would I.

I hope that you are feeling better never the less,

Just ducky, thank you very much.

and that
there was no insult intended.

Yes, well, I'm sure we all concur.

TnT

Wolfgang

"KMAN" wrote in message
.. .

"rick" wrote in message
ink.net...

"BCITORGB" wrote in message
oups.com...
Oh well. Perhaps rick caught that post, and it might work for
him. It'd
be good viewing for Scott as well (and all those who live in
an insular
world).
============================
LOL Again, you've yet to find me praising the US system.
Maybe that's what you wish I said so that your own jingoistic
blather wouldn't look quite so outragious. It is amazing that
you rely on 10-15 year old books for your current events, and
dely that your own health care system isn't working for every
Canadian right now!

How your position has changed...first it was that people in
Canada were dying in waiting lines, now it is that the system
isn't working for every Canadian.
======================
LOL You really are a sad little boy, aren't you? Sarcasm goes
right over your head as much as facts do, doesn't it? There is
no change fool, you're still just as willfully ignorant as
ever...

"BCITORGB" wrote in message
oups.com...
rick says:
==============
It is amazing that you rely on 10-15 year old books for your
current
events
===========================

"rely" on?! what are you on about?!

are historical data of no interest? and you'll note that the
dutch
study came out in 2004.
=====================
Here, let me help you out fool, since you are still dishonestly
snipping all the posts just to make your replies to things that
aren't said.

restore...
"BCITORGB" wrote in message
oups.com...
KMAN, while I'm passing on interesting tidbits of info, I
thought you
might find this interesting:

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/8Comparison.htm

frtzw906

I might, if the link worked for me :-)
end restore.

That link is to a book report from the early 90s. Now, let me
restore the last post yopu are pretending to reply to...

restore...
LOL Again, you've yet to find me praising the US system. Maybe
that's what you wish I said so that your own jingoistic blather
wouldn't look quite so outragious. It is amazing that you rely
on 10-15 year old books for your current events, and dely that
your own health care system isn't working for every Canadian
right now! Talk about having your head in the sand, and living
in the past, and I'd say you and kman have the far more narrow
provincial viewpoint....
end restore...


Again, when you begin to post honestly, come on back. Until
then, you have nothing to add, except dishonest blather...



frtzw906

"BCITORGB" wrote in message
ups.com...
rick says:
=================
Again, you've yet to find me praising the US system.
===================

And who says you do?
==============
You...

You've made the point, once, twice, or I don't
know how many times, and I've accepted your assertion.
===============
No, you haven't. review what you keep saying, instead of deleting
it all the time...



Why do you keep telling us this?
====================
Because, fool, in the parts of the posts you keep dishonestly
deleting, you keep saying, or implying, that my review of
Canadian wait lists is based on my desire to praise another
system. It is you that has continued to defend a system that
kills people just because the messenger isn't of the political
persuasion that you like. Quite a narrow provincial viewpoint
you have there, eh?




frtzw906

rick, it is you who decided to reply to something i thought kman might
find interesting. kman indicated an inability to open the link. you
clesarly were curious and tried it.

you're right, it is exactly as you describe: early 90s data used to
support an analysis of the reagan-bush era. so what? i never pretended
it was anything more (or less). in recommending two links to kman, i
suggested he might "find this interesting". whether he does (or did),
is up to him. in recommending these links, i said nothing in support of
(or against) the canadian medical system.

the dutch study was recommended because it takes the discussion of
healthcare systems a notch or two above the name-calling you had
dragged this debate into. i thought kman, like me, could be interested.
note again: no support (or lack of support) for the canadian healthcare
system from me.

you clearly have some kind of bone to pick with the canadian system.
why don't you just get whatever it is, off your chest. i'm sure you'll
feel better. did you not get your mri? was your joint replacement
delayed for 3 months? did your mother die waiting for a cataract
operation? whatever it is: please vent. as it stands, you sound like
you're on the waiting list for some serious psychiatric care. you sound
very bitter.

on the positive side, i'd say there is hope for you. i think this is
the second or third (i'm not counting) post from you where you haven't
invoked the "strawman". trust me, in this regard, you're making real
progress.

cheers,
frtzw906